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114. Free Republic is thataway >>>>>>>>>>>

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Fri Aug 31, 2012, 04:46 PM

Aug 2012

I don't say this casually, but rather after evaluating all your posts on this thread.

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Few working at Staples make a living wage. [View all] longship Aug 2012 OP

then either don't take the job or quit blueamy66 Aug 2012 #1

When these are the only jobs available GObamaGO Aug 2012 #2

+1 Sherman A1 Aug 2012 #6

then don't take the job or quit blueamy66 Aug 2012 #7

you should get slammed. Texasgal Aug 2012 #13

I think this one took a left turn instead of a right turn GObamaGO Aug 2012 #27

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #112

If there is nothing else available GObamaGO Aug 2012 #19

You're not seeing the whole picture here. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #26

+1 GObamaGO Aug 2012 #33

That's a temporary situation, right? This is a rough patch the person is going through? Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #49

Actually, this is based on more than one person I know. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #53

Are you in Texas, Lone Star? I am, too. Where in Texas is the economy that bad? Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #58

This is just on the outskirts of Austin. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #67

If you don't think that educated people Texasgal Aug 2012 #126

Did you mean to say this to me? Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #133

That is not what I said. HE said there were lots of "ivy league" MBA degreed people were Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #142

How do you not believe that? Texasgal Aug 2012 #146

Yes, it's hard to change your circumstances. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #165

This where I have always have lived. Texasgal Sep 2012 #167

when the economy is no longer based on good jobs, there won't be another good one for most people CreekDog Aug 2012 #82

How does that get done CreekDog? Mimosa Aug 2012 #118

+1 forthemiddle Aug 2012 #140

You swipe toilet paper and light bulbs from public areas! MADem Aug 2012 #52

No, it's not realistic. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #55

It's always been hard for non-college educated people to get good paying jobs. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #61

where do you get the idea marions ghost Aug 2012 #72

I'm a nurse. The waiting list for LPN classes was so long it was done away with. Same for RN classes Heddi Aug 2012 #86

So you agree with me... marions ghost Aug 2012 #90

absolutely in agreement with you Heddi Aug 2012 #132

Well, my my my. There is absolutely NO answer for anyone to get ahead besides someone giving Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #138

You can get an RN in 2 or 4 years Heddi Aug 2012 #157

I see I'm speaking to a wall. You don't want someone to get better... Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #164

Two words: Musical Chairs. reformist2 Sep 2012 #166

No, it hasn't always been hard. There used to be strong unions Gormy Cuss Aug 2012 #88

Only if you live in a place with large employers, like factories. It has ALWAYS been hard for Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #139

No, it hasn't *always" been hard, and union jobs could be had in the teamsters, on railroads, etc Gormy Cuss Sep 2012 #168

bullshit. my millworker uncle & his non-working wife supported 5 kids & bought a new car HiPointDem Aug 2012 #97

Before the 1970s life for working people was better Mimosa Aug 2012 #120

it has gotten worse since reagan, immeasurably. at the time you thought it was temporary & HiPointDem Aug 2012 #122

Your uncle was lucky enough to live in an area with a mill. You're thinking every place is like Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #144

no, it's you who doesn't get it. you want to talk statistics? HiPointDem Sep 2012 #160

I'm sorry...I don't see the chart comparing college degreed w/those w/no ed. Honeycombe8 Sep 2012 #163

You didn't say "it's always been harder for non-college than college-educated." You said: HiPointDem Sep 2012 #171

Now it's hard for college grads to get jobs - is the answer more education??? reformist2 Aug 2012 #99

I had a two year degree. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #143

The only way IT was possible was by former-republican Aug 2012 #63

They have to take what they can get and hope for better days. Even if it's that shitty Staples job MADem Aug 2012 #65

+++++ marions ghost Aug 2012 #91

Okay, so we finally get to go home tomorrow after being in free hotel rooms for 4 nights cause blueamy66 Aug 2012 #129

Hey, why don't you just go get a job Texasgal Aug 2012 #131

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #149

+1 Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #161

I'm not in the least bit upset with you. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #134

+1 tilsammans Aug 2012 #147

the big tent of the new democratic party HiPointDem Aug 2012 #96

So what you want is a minimum wage world and we should all set back and take the kind of business jwirr Aug 2012 #102

You would fit rignt in nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #128

Did his friend pass up a job as lead curator at the Smithsonian? Dash87 Sep 2012 #158

Some people are clueless as to how hard good jobs are to find. Incitatus Aug 2012 #10

+1,000 upi402 Aug 2012 #141

Are you serious? Texasgal Aug 2012 #3

Maybe they shouldn't have accepted the job in the first place. blueamy66 Aug 2012 #14

Uhhh...maybe they need to feed their family? Texasgal Aug 2012 #20

Thank God we have minimum wage laws. reformist2 Aug 2012 #21

do you not get it? Terra Alta Aug 2012 #29

when it's the only job available to you Terra Alta Aug 2012 #4

For Christ sakes, you don't get it, do you. longship Aug 2012 #16

no, that poster doesn't get it, they post conservative crap all the time CreekDog Aug 2012 #83

What a horrible post. Alduin Aug 2012 #46

Surprise Surprise obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #66

+1 n/t tammywammy Aug 2012 #74

Oh gods. Starry Messenger Aug 2012 #68

considering how much you complain about things here, and *children* chief among them... CreekDog Aug 2012 #77

Funny That She Stays Given She So Dislikes So Much Of What DU Has To Say HangOnKids Aug 2012 #105

I had no idea you had an account on DU, Mrs. Romney. LeftyMom Aug 2012 #89

"Big tent". Romulox Aug 2012 #93

Right, because demanding more is for Martians only. closeupready Aug 2012 #94

Channeling Ann Romney? MindPilot Aug 2012 #103

Free Republic is thataway >>>>>>>>>>> kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #114

Not so smug now, huh? Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #162

Bix Box stores are turning ALL retailing jobs into crap... UNIONS are the only answer. reformist2 Aug 2012 #5

Precisely Sherman A1 Aug 2012 #9

unions? I worked at AT&T for 10 years. blueamy66 Aug 2012 #12

If you look at the balance sheets of any of the big box stores GObamaGO Aug 2012 #23

Staples: $920 million profit. 51,000 employees. You do the math. reformist2 Aug 2012 #30

I know! GObamaGO Aug 2012 #35

With the internet, I am amazed we haven't seen a revival of unionization yet. reformist2 Aug 2012 #38

I agree GObamaGO Aug 2012 #41

40 years of people like that poster saying "it's your own fault! pick yourself up by your boot- HiPointDem Aug 2012 #125

"They should've been happy with what they got." Robb Aug 2012 #31

My guess is this one is not a fellow liberal. GObamaGO Aug 2012 #37

"How are business owners to make money?" brentspeak Aug 2012 #36

LOL - I can't believe someone actually posted that! reformist2 Aug 2012 #42

Let's talk reasonably about unions. I'm down with that. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #48

anti union too? CreekDog Aug 2012 #76

Those big corporations make LOTS of money. But it's nice to know you are so supportive of them in kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #108

I good question for you. Jamastiene Aug 2012 #156

few working at any store make a living wage fascisthunter Aug 2012 #8

Which is sad, growing up, our next door neighbor was Produce Manager at a local Safeway. haele Aug 2012 #100

Thank you - it's anecdotes like this which show how far we've fallen. reformist2 Aug 2012 #107

Gripe, gripe, gripe! He got a discount on paper clips didn't he? Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #11

I would like a nice job with decent bennies blueamy66 Aug 2012 #17

Yep. Really. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #28

I just checked, Staples has a profit of $920 million. If just 50% was shared by employees... reformist2 Aug 2012 #15

Was that profit sharing offered when the job was offered? blueamy66 Aug 2012 #18

Profits will be shared, once they unionize! reformist2 Aug 2012 #22

How about a living WAGE? Texasgal Aug 2012 #25

WHAT is WRONG with you? DiverDave Aug 2012 #98

Just because.......what? Just because they WORK? Just because they are the means by which the kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #109

Just because they made the business profitable? lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #124

Why should employees get a share of the co profits? I mean, on what basis. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #39

Profit sharing gives everyone a stake in how the company does GObamaGO Aug 2012 #44

There are companies that do that...I know of them as retirement plans. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #137

The only people making money are the big Texasgal Aug 2012 #130

That's not what my post was about at all. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #135

Okay, I am willing to understand. Texasgal Aug 2012 #136

That's the maximum possible? longship Aug 2012 #40

Their wages could be $10,000 higher, and Staples would still be hugely profitable. reformist2 Aug 2012 #50

Profit sharing former-republican Aug 2012 #24

Obviously, minimum-wage laws protect against no paycheck. But treat profit-sharing as a bonus. reformist2 Aug 2012 #32

Depends former-republican Aug 2012 #43

Only under certain rather limited conditions.. n/t Fumesucker Aug 2012 #92

That co. isn't doing well, I think. Those employees need to look elsewhere. nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #34

Retail GObamaGO Aug 2012 #47

Then the workers need to change vocations. If everyone changed.... Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #56

I know someone who works in HR at a Target Store GObamaGO Aug 2012 #57

I don't believe that, actually. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #64

You can choose not to believe it GObamaGO Aug 2012 #71

Where is that happening? And what did people w/MBAs do before the recession? nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #80

Stop bashing people and realize there aren't enough good paying jobs to go around. reformist2 Aug 2012 #73

Stop bashing people and realize that you didn't answer the question. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #78

They certainly are obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #75

Where? nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #79

funny - I posted about a 70-80k office job with great benefits here 6 mos ago dmallind Sep 2012 #159

where do you live dhol82 Aug 2012 #60

I live in Dallas. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #70

where do people get money? lots of them don't get enough and live in poverty CreekDog Aug 2012 #104

You don't understand. In this thread we have a Texas conservative and an Arizona conservative, kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #113

Yep CreekDog Aug 2012 #115

I really hope you are not speaking about me. Texasgal Aug 2012 #123

I'm not. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #155

I am neither cold nor insensitive. I have been homeless myself... Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #148

When you address me, you are speaking to the working poor, the homeless, the uninsured... Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #153

My sister is in a nursing home on Medicaid, having had a stroke at a young age. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #145

Do you want the people's situation to get better, or not? Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #150

Most fields and schools are flooded davidn3600 Aug 2012 #81

+1 Incitatus Aug 2012 #85

Nothing is ever "fine" in the short term. It takes years. It's not RW to DO something Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #152

We just hired several paralegals and a secretary. Jobs are hoppin' here in Dallas. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #151

But that is part of the problem...it's a catch-22 davidn3600 Sep 2012 #172

Damn! This thread brought 'em out the woodwork! Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #45

Thanks, xchrom. longship Aug 2012 #51

I used some of the responses, starting with the very first, to tune up and coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #54

Same here! Blecht Aug 2012 #127

Shaking my head here GObamaGO Aug 2012 #59

Shocking. Texasgal Aug 2012 #62

+1000 Starry Messenger Aug 2012 #69

one wonders why they spend so much time with us when it's clear they don't think much of us CreekDog Aug 2012 #84

Yeah, she's definitely a freeper. closeupready Aug 2012 #106

I get so furious every time I hear a Republican claim liberal_at_heart Aug 2012 #87

Corporations have record profits. They can afford to give their peon employees raises. reformist2 Aug 2012 #95

. Liberal_in_LA Aug 2012 #101

It's the OWNERS who deserve all the money! The OWNERS! moondust Aug 2012 #110

So true. The more you think about what ordinary people do, the more equal you want pay to be. reformist2 Aug 2012 #111

Employment income is "three legged" - Entrepreneurship, Private Sector, Public Sector - haele Aug 2012 #116

That's big corporation strategy in all retail Mimosa Aug 2012 #117

I used to be a GM at Staples. I left 7 years ago to become a teacher. Pale Blue Dot Aug 2012 #119

These are not good jobs Romney created. The jobs they replaced applegrove Aug 2012 #121

the local store where i go has 100% turnover rate madrchsod Aug 2012 #154

Bigot RW owner of Staples considers it an accomplishment no doubt lunasun Sep 2012 #169

oh yeah and this kind of crap from owner Stemberg re: ACA aka obamacare lunasun Sep 2012 #170