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In reply to the discussion: We should have been colonizing the solar system by now. [View all]Romulox
(25,960 posts)680. Learn how to use quotation marks, please! I NEVER used the word "impossible". nt
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Sure we can. What Odin's talking about is couch-cushion stuff compared to the defense budget. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#3
The reason we're not colonizing the planets is because Michael Moorcock and Samuel R. Delany
klook
Aug 2012
#353
Beautiful sentiment but unilateral disarmament doesn't work. Sorry. nt.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2012
#90
We could cut our military 90% without getting close to "unilateral disarmament"
hunter
Aug 2012
#115
I don't know about 90%, but I agree that a huge amount could be cut. 50%?
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2012
#120
If we modernized and implemented General Butler's plan for an actual Dept. of Defense
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2012
#341
Whether someone "had a vision" or not would not be a factor in whether I trusted their design or not
EOTE
Aug 2012
#494
So, are you going to provide any proof for the urban legends you've been touting as fact?
EOTE
Aug 2012
#681
You posted three sources from the NIH which had NOTHING to do with our discussion. That's called a
EOTE
Aug 2012
#692
You have absolutely nothing but non-sequitors. Nothing but putting words in my mouth.
EOTE
Aug 2012
#705
Are you slow or something? What in those articles is contrary to anything I've said?
EOTE
Aug 2012
#715
Your facts are that LSD can cause clinical insanity and that people get strychnine poisoning from
EOTE
Aug 2012
#704
How safe have I implied LSD is? I can guarantee you won't provide an honest answer to that question
EOTE
Aug 2012
#717
"Grow up" says the creepy stalker who won't stop responding to posts not addressed to him.
EOTE
Aug 2012
#760
Definitely - what I meant is I don't know if that number included them or not. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#207
To quote SMBC: "Sorry, can't hear you. I only listen to noises that might save babies."
DRoseDARs
Aug 2012
#173
Let us gather 'round the heat of a fuming Neo-con (as he comtemplates FOUR MORE YEARS)...
a geek named Bob
Aug 2012
#9
Engineering a shed of unprecedented low density counts for something, right? (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#101
You know it's really cold there. So a shelter would have to be more than a lean to.
Cleita
Aug 2012
#178
All that free air won't do you much good if you are caught unprepared in a blizzard.
PavePusher
Aug 2012
#228
You think we should never have started mining. You are against technology. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#303
Open pit mining doesn't solve the problem. It also scars the landscape. Go to West Virginia
Cleita
Aug 2012
#433
That could probably be arranged. Send them all to their Libertarian paradise with
Cleita
Aug 2012
#237
Oh, you just got the humor? I was there all along with the Libertarian paradise meme.
Cleita
Aug 2012
#290
You don't really think we could ever pollute space to any significant degree do you?
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#640
But what about the deadly pollution of the delicate vacuum, by industrial fumes?
a geek named Bob
Aug 2012
#641
60 years ago would be 1952, at which point we had already significantly
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#644
Orbital ballistics is an entirely different subject from "little regard to what we leave behind".
PavePusher
Aug 2012
#197
There are no Na'vi. We're it. We're the only manifestation of intelligent life in the universe.
lumberjack_jeff
Aug 2012
#394
What color will the sky be? I kid of course, surely it will be fluorescent blue. n/t
2on2u
Aug 2012
#67
I was thinking that the asteroid's bulk would keep cosmic rays and solar flares out.
Odin2005
Aug 2012
#124
There would be enough leftover asteroid or lunar regolith, plus 'slag' from the refining process....
LongTomH
Aug 2012
#134
Fair enough. Plenty of silica on the moon as well as nearby asteroids. n/t
A HERETIC I AM
Aug 2012
#180
you could build the mirrors out of thick tin foil, and deisgn the whole thing to
a geek named Bob
Aug 2012
#280
Robert Goddard flew the first liquid-fuel rocket just 22 years after the Wrights' first flight....
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#439
Robotic exploration is much cheaper and will produce more technical innovation
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#50
The object of space exploration should be the scientific info we can obtain. That, of course,
struggle4progress
Aug 2012
#65
So you think if we 'stay home and play nice', your putative Vogons will leave us alone?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#444
Being as their doesn't seem to be any other intelligent lifeforms in the Solar system...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#459
"Not all populations and cultures behave in that way" How about the Maya and the people of Rapa Nui?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#446
If you *really* feel that way, I know some people you should talk to:
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#442
You're crazy. The most important thing in the world is to make rich people richer
valerief
Aug 2012
#135
What if we convince the PTB to build penal colonies in the Kuiper Belt? (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#164
Would renaming it Spacestralia and wrapping a cheesy reality show around it draw migrants? (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#175
If you're starting off with posts like that I sure hope you stick around for awhile! (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#218
For all those people who are sneering at those who are concerned about polluting space,
Cleita
Aug 2012
#210
I'll continue to sneer at anyone who tries to cite Avatar as evidence in an argument. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#212
My "problem" is that it has zero bearing - none, zip, nada - on any reasonable argument. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#220
Are you seriously trying to argue that airless asteroids are somehow vibrant ecosystems? (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#268
So you use advanced technology to sustain life, but prefer others go without?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#456
Actually, it would have to be a communal farming society like the New Stone Agers, the
Cleita
Aug 2012
#454
"The land belongs to everyone." How many homeless people stay at your place?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2012
#449
Me, I stay at their place. I can't offer my benefactors land to anyone can I now? n/t
Cleita
Aug 2012
#452
You're venturing rapidly into "don't know what you're talking about" territory with that analogy. nt
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#265
Well, when you figure out how to plant a garden, without needed energy sources and
Cleita
Aug 2012
#293
My bad. I didn't elaborate that it wasn't an electric or gas heater. I forget that
Cleita
Aug 2012
#621
I fully understood the implication. You don't understand heater efficiencies.
NCTraveler
Aug 2012
#622
They want to privatize the Space Program. What killed it was the Privatizers. They don't want
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#244
Health insurance for all = "silly causes." Welcome to my Ignore list. N.B. It's
coalition_unwilling
Aug 2012
#390
Perhaps the space based weapons (in both high and low earth orbit) had priority, Odin2005.
bobthedrummer
Aug 2012
#252
Robotic probes will be the principal mode of space exploration for the foreseeable future
entanglement
Aug 2012
#254
All the money or will in the world won't change the fact that we don't know HOW.
LeftyMom
Aug 2012
#256
We can't do it for $300 billion. Unless we decide the people involved are disposable.
LeftyMom
Aug 2012
#295
We need to get the country back into realizing the importance of science and exploration.
Marrah_G
Aug 2012
#269
We've already fired a missile at the moon. First it was explored, then was used as target practice.
Trillo
Aug 2012
#363
Well, I think there is some on that 3rd rock.... guess that eliminates your point #1
Trillo
Aug 2012
#396
You said it yourself. NASA is competing directly with the Pentagon for technology spending.
leveymg
Aug 2012
#304
sigh... as an astrophysicist, I feel the saddest for the irrationally optimistic
MStuart
Aug 2012
#308
When I was in elementary school (1960-66) my dream was to be on the 1st manned mission to Mars...
Rowdyboy
Aug 2012
#312
I told them that whole "multicellular" thing was just a fad, but no, they wouldn't listen!
JHB
Aug 2012
#348
Star Trek is just a TV show. I know that sometimes, *it just seems sooo real!!!!*. Just tv.
Romulox
Aug 2012
#381
Yes I am. Because we all KNOW that Science FANTASY animates much of this discussion. nt
Romulox
Aug 2012
#385
None, so far as I know. Who is stopping *you* from beginning a new life in the cosmos, right now?
Romulox
Aug 2012
#525
You are dead set on the "if we haven't done it now it must be impossible" mentality
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#529
Discussion hits a brick wall when you start refuting points nobody has made. nt
Romulox
Aug 2012
#629
You put quote marks around something I didn't say, right in your subject line for post 529.
Romulox
Aug 2012
#666
And you still haven't answered MY question: Who's stopping you from living in space? What physical
Romulox
Aug 2012
#667
I'm not the one complaining about it, though. YOU are. So it's your job to convince everyone
Romulox
Aug 2012
#671
Learn how to use quotation marks, please! I NEVER used the word "impossible". nt
Romulox
Aug 2012
#680
This is childish. I will make the points I wish to make. I will not refute points only you have
Romulox
Aug 2012
#689
You really can't think it's both impossible and possible at the same time
4th law of robotics
Aug 2012
#693
And you're refuting point I haven't made again! My point was that no one is "stopping" you from
Romulox
Aug 2012
#673
If you want other people to pay for it, you'll have to convince us. That's just how it works. Else
Romulox
Aug 2012
#679
This is childish. Perhaps I'll just invent some nonsense, put quotes around, and demand you defend
Romulox
Aug 2012
#682
Quotation marks are a representation that someone said those exact words. You're being dishonest. nt
Romulox
Aug 2012
#691
The "rugged individualist" stuff was something only the HAL guy mentioned. I just said we aren't
Romulox
Aug 2012
#677
"Space colonization" = Randian excuse to ignore the environment and poor
Liber T. Anjustis
Aug 2012
#401
no, the international financial cartel needs that money to extort more countries
librechik
Aug 2012
#404
meh, I'm one of those people who think robots can do the job better for the foreseeable future
librechik
Aug 2012
#414
yes--be sure to wear a lead cup--and don't start any long term relationships
librechik
Aug 2012
#419
You don't get to start a second planet until you clean up the first one...
Jeff In Milwaukee
Aug 2012
#429
Personally, I consider this a possible RW meme, "The elect are headed to a better place. Fuck Earth"
patrice
Aug 2012
#453
You forgot "I'm not personally interested in this, therefore it's evil." (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#476
What parts of the words "Personally" and "possible" do you not understand & what you just
patrice
Aug 2012
#479
Actually, there was a problem with the term 'space colony' back in the late 70s.
LongTomH
Aug 2012
#508
I think for any worth while expedition into space we would have to live at least 100+ years. And
demosincebirth
Aug 2012
#577
It's all great for the imagination and I think about it too. But for any deep space exportation, and
demosincebirth
Aug 2012
#785
Well, not all Greeks and not all gifts, just a warning to be wary of vehicles that can hide weapons.
patrice
Aug 2012
#512
he, he, "stuttering" . . . and therein lies a tale of those who can't/don't "speak" the "speech"
patrice
Aug 2012
#554
Consider changing that "erudition" to cognition and you might BEGIN, like Tama and I and Others, to
patrice
Aug 2012
#593
If some billionaire wants to have a really crappy (fun?) vacation to Mars, who's stopping him/her?
cpwm17
Aug 2012
#646
If we had just followed through with Reagan's Star Wars and weaponized space ...
Jim__
Aug 2012
#625
The standard, tired "anything to do with space is military in nature" angle, I figured. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#751
You could probably simulate one of these threads with a pretty short perl script. (nt)
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#755
A chat channel I hung out on awhile back had a really out-there gun nut...
Posteritatis
Aug 2012
#766
Wow, this has turned into one of the longest running threads I've seen here in a long time!
LongTomH
Aug 2012
#626
The L5 Society was absorbed (engulfed and devoured by, assimilated by) the National Space Institute
LongTomH
Aug 2012
#647
Yes, this is true...and we could have cured hunger, provided shelter and education for the world
Taverner
Aug 2012
#654
Holy crap Odin, I think this is one of the biggest threads I've ever seen
EvolveOrConvolve
Aug 2012
#657
Kind of like graywarrior's "I want to create a thread that never dies" thread,
kentauros
Aug 2012
#724
Air-conditioning bill for our troops in the Middle East greater than the NASA budget.
David Zephyr
Aug 2012
#684
And instead we are being told to bow our heads to the 'job creators' and arguing with people who
ck4829
Aug 2012
#735
You have that wrong. It's the MILITARIZATION of Space. Remember "Star Wars"? Do you
patrice
Aug 2012
#776