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Fire Walk With Me

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3. Let's start with ending the government's attack upon the legal finding that section 1021 of the NDAA
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 12:40 AM
Aug 2012

is illegal. There are plenty of better things for the government to do than fight for the provision to indefinitely detain US citizens.


"Obama Defies Federal Court Ban On NDAA Indefinite Detention"

Obama is refusing to follow a federal court order that found the NDAA violates the Constitution and temporarily banned indefinite detention of U.S citizens.

The Obama administration is refusing to follow the order of a Federal District Court Judge Katherine Forrest who last month temporarily blocked the government from detaining U.S. citizens indefinitely without charge as authorized by section 1021 of the NDAA in a ruling that declared the NDAA unconstitutional.

The Obama administration first responded to the ban on indefinite detention by asking the courts to lift the injunction.

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/06/04/obama-defies-federal-court-ban-ndaa-indefinite-detention-140691/

That is ProSense Aug 2012 #1
Video of what Pres Obama actually said in context is in comment #20 n/t Tx4obama Aug 2012 #21
excellent, and worth watching nilram Aug 2012 #126
You'll have four more years to hate on him, Manny, don't worry. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #2
Address the OP. Jakes Progress Aug 2012 #5
So many straw men, so little time. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #10
Which compromises would you like to start with? nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #15
How about this compromise: We'll tax the rich at a higher rate in order to fund SS & Medicare and JaneyVee Aug 2012 #32
and Phlem Aug 2012 #76
In a compromise it is assumed Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #46
So much evasion. So little said. Jakes Progress Aug 2012 #66
Listen to what Mr. Obama ACTUALLY SAID FIRST. Not Manny's "The Sky Is Falling!" interpretation. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #82
Listen to what he said. Not your knee jerk Jakes Progress Aug 2012 #107
again with the Phlem Aug 2012 #108
But Romney won't be running in the next four years... Scootaloo Aug 2012 #39
I get it... I'm a Republican shill MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #59
I don't think the GOP would take you for free, much less pay you Scootaloo Aug 2012 #125
I supported Obama in the 2008 primaries MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #128
So, who should the last-minute replacement be? Scootaloo Aug 2012 #131
Let's start with ending the government's attack upon the legal finding that section 1021 of the NDAA Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #3
Obviously there's not more important things than MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #6
I cannot stand this guy but I will vote for him anyway. Peregrine Took Aug 2012 #4
Video of what Pres Obama actually said in context is in comment #20 n/t Tx4obama Aug 2012 #22
"I'll be glad after 2016 when he just fades away into the fog from whence he came." ProSense Aug 2012 #28
I know Obama isn't perfect, Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #42
... Whisp Aug 2012 #88
How about immediately and absolutely ending "Citizens United" so corporations cannot buy government? Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #7
evidently obama has learned nothing in his dealings with republicans. not very smart of him nt msongs Aug 2012 #8
Video of what Pres Obama actually said in context is in comment #20 n/t Tx4obama Aug 2012 #23
Fuller context - pinto Aug 2012 #9
Which compromises do you think would be helpful? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #11
How about ProSense Aug 2012 #16
The continued repeal of Glass-Steagall is too little, too late MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #26
You ProSense Aug 2012 #31
You don't know Bank of America, do you? MFrohike Aug 2012 #117
That's exactly what I meant, thanks. MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #119
As for this: ProSense Aug 2012 #33
Yes, but that wasn't my question. nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #35
In the end, it never is. n/t ProSense Aug 2012 #37
I think it is similar to LBJ's America, but more so if that makes sense. We're extremely divided, pinto Aug 2012 #38
This. Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #43
Republicans deal. GeorgeGist Aug 2012 #60
Same Song, Second Verse. RC Aug 2012 #12
So what else is new? NV Whino Aug 2012 #13
You don't understand the concept of mzmolly Aug 2012 #14
Nope. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #57
Indeed. mzmolly Aug 2012 #90
WAAAAY out of context bhikkhu Aug 2012 #17
How did I misunderstand Obama's quote? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #19
Video of what Pres Obama actually said in context is in comment #20 n/t Tx4obama Aug 2012 #24
From the interview: bhikkhu Aug 2012 #25
You're correct. Video of what Pres Obama actually said in context is in comment #20 n/t Tx4obama Aug 2012 #29
I've stopped expecting honesty out of some posters, they'll just bash uponit7771 Aug 2012 #71
"*pretend* for a few more months?" He must now be sure of his re-election. No more need to AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #18
Please do NOT take Presidnt Obama out of context. Watch VIDEO below to hear what he actually said Tx4obama Aug 2012 #20
We're all Mitt Romney now! ProSense Aug 2012 #27
Oh NO. I will NEVER give up :) n/t Tx4obama Aug 2012 #30
Now..it's that we're progressive even if our party can't be counted on to be. Ken Burch Aug 2012 #50
I watched the video, to hear for myself what he actually said. Demit Aug 2012 #40
That's what I heard also. Why on earth is he talking about compromising with the worst sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #120
Democrats aren't going to like zipplewrath Aug 2012 #79
Wow, that made it a million times worse. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #81
It's like he's trying to depress turnout of his base in November. woolldog Aug 2012 #34
He should spend all his time ProSense Aug 2012 #36
oh please, woolldog Aug 2012 #55
You ought to know. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #41
..... woolldog Aug 2012 #54
Nice hat you got there. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #63
Or that he wants to win, but only just barely. Ken Burch Aug 2012 #48
yes. nt woolldog Aug 2012 #53
Seems to have been the plan from day 1. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #83
"Compromises." Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #44
compromise vs. concede... BlueCollar Aug 2012 #45
Problem is, even if he wins, the GOP won't give up on trying to beat him. Ken Burch Aug 2012 #49
It's a moot point, given that we can already assume Ken Burch Aug 2012 #47
This is what he's been doing for the past 4 years, so I guess business Raine Aug 2012 #51
No kidding. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #52
sigh MFM008 Aug 2012 #56
sigh.... the more things change...... piratefish08 Aug 2012 #58
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #61
HOLY FUCK a president that wants to compromise....what the FUCK will become of us spanone Aug 2012 #62
"If Republicans are willing". gkhouston Aug 2012 #64
The obtuseness is strong in this one. mac56 Aug 2012 #65
it would be nice to have the quote in context and not just bits and pieces. WI_DEM Aug 2012 #67
Watch the video which texas for obama posted above. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #84
jesus, his first four years should have shown by now quinnox Aug 2012 #68
Manny, you should look over your responses and concede that you have overstated Obama's Baitball Blogger Aug 2012 #69
Umm...seeing a lot of pushback but no substance Hydra Aug 2012 #100
I was on the jury and voted to leave the post up, Baitball Blogger Aug 2012 #103
"I'm prepared to make a whole range of compromises" Hydra Aug 2012 #106
Yes. He was cherry picking. Baitball Blogger Aug 2012 #110
Care to elaborate? Hydra Aug 2012 #115
K&R Well, of course he is. woo me with science Aug 2012 #70
+1000 n/t dflprincess Aug 2012 #118
That's what 3rd Wary centrists do. Just like Clinton before him. Anything to stay in office. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #72
You might get that dinner after all. WilliamPitt Aug 2012 #73
My SIL, who voted for Obama told me that Obama has been a mediocre President Autumn Aug 2012 #74
oh come on Manny hfojvt Aug 2012 #75
He Should Say Whatever He Needs To Say To Get Reelected DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2012 #77
And that is why the country continues to move in the WRONG direction under Obama on point Aug 2012 #78
The country's moving in the "wrong direction" because people sat on their asses in the midterms. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #80
It was moving in the wrong direction way before the midterms. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #86
No country is moving in wrong direction because of DLC, third way and other fake democratic nonsense on point Aug 2012 #93
I'm sorry, but your laundry list is just ridiculous, which is why there'll never be an outright..... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #96
Thank you for proving my point and admitting the leadership is still moving in the wrong direction on point Aug 2012 #112
If it's moving away from you, I'm gonna go ahead & say that's probably a good thing. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #132
Excellent post. Fight, when are we going to see a real fight for the American people? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #121
Manny - I understand that you are not a fan of President Obama, but what I want to know is who jillan Aug 2012 #85
I will vote for Obama, of course MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #98
why do you campaign so hard against some you're "going to vote for"? dionysus Aug 2012 #105
Because like me Hydra Aug 2012 #116
yeh, let's 'pretend' for a few more months Whisp Aug 2012 #87
There is an article up on cnn Mojorabbit Aug 2012 #89
Why do you do nothing but constantly slam Obama? Skraxx Aug 2012 #91
He is not slamming the President. He is asking the President to fight for sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #124
No, There Is A Pattern Of Constant and Deliberate Misrepresentation, Out of Context SLAMS Skraxx Aug 2012 #134
Defend? I am for being always on the offensive. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #135
You Can't Defend This Poster Because There is no Defense Skraxx Aug 2012 #136
I believe you are projecting. I play no games and never have, when it comes to issues sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #137
The agenda is clear as a bell; distort and lie to smear Obama Skraxx Aug 2012 #138
Keep attacking other DUers, but do not address the issue. Anyone who resorts to personal sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #139
Keep lying about and distorting the Presidents words Skraxx Aug 2012 #140
Calling someone on bullshit would require identifying the bullshit. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #141
"Having worked closely with top Dems on political campaigns," LOL! Skraxx Aug 2012 #143
I did not rec this OP, thinking Manny had cherrypicked his quotes. Then I saw the video. Poll_Blind Aug 2012 #92
Is there anything he won't compromise on? limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #94
FFS. Has he learned anything in the past 4 years? N/T D23MIURG23 Aug 2012 #95
Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad JoePhilly Aug 2012 #97
He may be bad, but the other guys are way worse. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #99
Yup Hydra Aug 2012 #101
I should have included this ... JoePhilly Aug 2012 #102
Well, that is certainly very disheartening. MotherPetrie Aug 2012 #104
I agree BlueinOhio Aug 2012 #109
Folks, if Mitt Romney wins you will get your way and we won't have to worry about any compromises. renie408 Aug 2012 #111
Nobody here wants Mitt Romney to win. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #113
You're right the Republicans do NOT compromise, so why is the President doing so? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #122
I know. It's one of the things I dislike the most about them. renie408 Aug 2012 #130
But Manny.... yah see... he'll have no other choice... because they are CRAZEEE! fascisthunter Aug 2012 #114
So any hope that Obama will be FDR like B Calm Aug 2012 #123
TYT responds to Obama's Compromise Oilwellian Aug 2012 #127
Like Manny, Cenk is a paid Republican shill MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #129
Kick woo me with science Aug 2012 #133
The TeaPubliKlans and corporatist have had their way for over a generation TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #142
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