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struggle4progress

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113. "David Allen Green is legal correspondent of the New Statesman"
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:04 PM
Aug 2012

Legal myths about the Assange extradition
A brief critical and source-based guide to some common misconceptions.
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2012/08/legal-myths-about-assange-extradition

I think people reference it because it's a useful summary with lots of informative links

Me too. fleur-de-lisa Aug 2012 #1
Let the whistleblower experts do the vetting and look for consensus. proverbialwisdom Aug 2012 #136
Can someone clarify for me: Betsy Ross Aug 2012 #2
The Swedish criminal process is not the same as the process in the UK struggle4progress Aug 2012 #43
Do you have a single button that posts that message? Marr Aug 2012 #104
The Swedish investigation into the Assange matter has reached the point at which the authorities struggle4progress Aug 2012 #105
The worse thing that could happen to the Assange apologists at this point Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #134
the crimes he's accused of are sexual assault and rape TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #126
Thank you for explaining the differences in Swedish law. Betsy Ross Aug 2012 #143
Frankly, he lost me when he called Sweden "the Saudi Arabia of feminism." Chorophyll Aug 2012 #3
So... 99Forever Aug 2012 #5
Yes, I do judge him for that remark. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #8
We're not talking about what I ... 99Forever Aug 2012 #11
Back at ya. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #14
Welll thanks... 99Forever Aug 2012 #17
I don't see much point in carrying the conversation any further. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #18
There ya go again. 99Forever Aug 2012 #21
And bullying people and calling them names is progressive, right? nt CabCurious Aug 2012 #24
"The Saudi Arabia of feminism" will never NOT offend my sensibilities. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #26
Help me out here. rhett o rick Aug 2012 #41
I took it to be a dig at Sweden BECAUSE it leans toward feminism. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #106
It's not a compliment tama Aug 2012 #129
What? brush Aug 2012 #89
"... It's embarrassing to say so, given that even a single man, as I was, is liable struggle4progress Aug 2012 #110
See post 129 nt tama Aug 2012 #130
So, what are your credentials? reorg Aug 2012 #144
I don't need credentials to have an opinon. Chorophyll Aug 2012 #145
it's spy v spy, that's why HiPointDem Aug 2012 #4
How do you define the word "spy"? JDPriestly Aug 2012 #93
Read this: treestar Aug 2012 #6
Obviously he doesn't have shit about the banksters. randome Aug 2012 #7
So you support big brother government and not a whistleblower? rhett o rick Aug 2012 #42
I fully support whistleblowers and I support Wikileaks. randome Aug 2012 #47
How can you blow the whistle without stealing information? rhett o rick Aug 2012 #52
What part of 'support whistle blowing and Wikileaks' do you choose to not read? randome Aug 2012 #55
Good grief. Blowing the whistle involves breaking some rules, violating some rhett o rick Aug 2012 #86
No. Truly, I just think it's an interesting case. randome Aug 2012 #90
If in doubt I tend to side against "The Man". rhett o rick Aug 2012 #96
Do you know of evidence that Assange "talked" Manning into providing the documents? JDPriestly Aug 2012 #97
Wow, just wow! Not only do you use unsubstantiated accusation about Assange's involvement idwiyo Aug 2012 #98
Assange doesn't have that info anymore. It was deleted by a turncoat, idwiyo Aug 2012 #95
Assange in February 2011 said the BoA stuff just wasn't interesting: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #111
More info here: idwiyo Aug 2012 #121
Assange is getting what he wants. Lots of attention. hunter Aug 2012 #9
Plus he's already so visible, it would be impossible to 'disappear' him. randome Aug 2012 #10
UK protected Pinochet from extradition. Assange not charged w/any crime WillYourVoteBCounted Aug 2012 #12
Nonsense. Robb Aug 2012 #20
Why do people keep cutting and pasting this dude? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #82
You've proven only you didn't read my post. Robb Aug 2012 #87
Actually, I think you did not read my post. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #109
Someone besides me is quoting Dan Lucas? Robb Aug 2012 #112
"David Allen Green is legal correspondent of the New Statesman" struggle4progress Aug 2012 #113
WikiLeaks' Most Terrifying Revelation: Just How Much Our Government Lies to Us WillYourVoteBCounted Aug 2012 #13
And what changed because of this? Anything? randome Aug 2012 #15
the Tunisian revolution Enrique Aug 2012 #25
Maybe so but did that affect the U.S.? randome Aug 2012 #27
You don't seem to remember... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #40
Really? Pontificating policians are now to be believed? randome Aug 2012 #48
No, but the point is... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #53
That was more than a year ago. randome Aug 2012 #58
According to this Reuter's article... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #59
The first link you provided was written in May, 2011. randome Aug 2012 #60
I can't read his mind, but... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #64
I appologize. My statement wasnt polite. I have periods of frustration. nm rhett o rick Aug 2012 #44
Ha! I agree only with the evidence as I see it. randome Aug 2012 #45
And some would argue that conservatives shouldnt be allowed on progressive boards rhett o rick Aug 2012 #54
Ouch! randome Aug 2012 #56
I again appologize. nm rhett o rick Aug 2012 #73
Wow. That was impressive. No snark intended. randome Aug 2012 #77
Seems that someone doesn't like you :) idwiyo Aug 2012 #62
Well I was wrong. I should be able to stand up to the conservatives rhett o rick Aug 2012 #92
Nah, nothing wrong with good snark once in a while. :) idwiyo Aug 2012 #107
Yes I agree. nm rhett o rick Aug 2012 #116
So much, where should we begin? Iceland? Wikileaks exposure of sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #141
My favorite part of this: Wikileaks unearthed that the Tunisians were 1st in arab world to oust cherokeeprogressive Aug 2012 #32
Note that all of these "leaks" are about past events. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #99
I think he's a creep ismnotwasm Aug 2012 #16
i agree, i haven't waded off into the assange business here until today arely staircase Aug 2012 #19
Personally I doubt they got those records nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #23
apparently they turned out to be fake arely staircase Aug 2012 #28
Let me offer you a possibility here nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #30
no wikileaks released what they thought were steve job's medical records arely staircase Aug 2012 #34
Yeah but the problem we have is the series of honey pots nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #36
unless the cia hypnotized them and made them proudly release what they arely staircase Aug 2012 #37
I do not remeber them being proud of it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #38
You are probably right. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #100
Wikileaks DID leak that, and it turned out, it was fake. MADem Aug 2012 #57
IT stopped being about Julian Assange a while ago nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #22
If you think you are confused now... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #29
+1! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #31
This is exactly the misogynistic shit I was speaking of. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #33
I am not assuming anything. Kalidurga Aug 2012 #39
What assumptions would they be? sibelian Aug 2012 #46
Kalidurga's post is misogynistic? Say what?? riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #51
I believe it is misogynistic to assume that women, unlike men, can never be wrong. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #63
It IS misogynist to assume that... Odin2005 Aug 2012 #74
This is not the reason for the doubts about these women's testimony. The doubts arise from sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #81
Once... Bonobo Aug 2012 #124
I've had tama Aug 2012 #127
Yes, but the question is... Bonobo Aug 2012 #128
It becomes abuse or rape tama Aug 2012 #131
I agree with you, sabrina 1. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #102
Well put. nm rhett o rick Aug 2012 #117
I think a good starting point for a rape victim is them saying "i was raped" Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #66
I don't know what sources to believe. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #75
The whole story is weird. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #76
The Swedes just need to promise that they don't rendition him to the US. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #80
Exactly. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #84
they can't make such a promise since it would go against international law Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #103
International law is guided by the specific treaty between the US and Sweden... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #108
why request a promise for something that goes against the treaty by its own words? Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #115
I'm not an expert... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #118
Here's an update to my response above... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #125
You are wrong about the court's role. ljm2002 Aug 2012 #139
What international law would it violate? ronnie624 Aug 2012 #137
I'm sure everyone accused of a crime would like a 'Get Out Of Jail Free' card for any other crimes. randome Aug 2012 #85
So, then, the RULES are the RULES, right? Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #88
I don't think Sweden has to do shit. randome Aug 2012 #91
I can understand his hesitation, though. Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #94
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #123
Misogynistic? ronnie624 Aug 2012 #135
And Bush and Cheney enjoy their retirement although they started the War in Iraq on a pretext JDPriestly Aug 2012 #101
I've given up trying to figure Assange out. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #35
It doesn't matter. You can't do anything about it. Best to put your energy Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #49
it is not mysogyny to say there is no rape charge magical thyme Aug 2012 #50
No, it's stupidity. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #61
way to have a civil conversation, win contempt and influence nobody magical thyme Aug 2012 #119
I don't blame you. Which is what I've been trying to explain - NashvilleLefty Aug 2012 #65
I disagree with the latter parts of your post.... AntiFascist Aug 2012 #69
Lol... Misogynists fascisthunter Aug 2012 #67
I don't give a shit what he did at this point... Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #68
rape is rape graham4anything Aug 2012 #70
Believe only the facts that can be verified. Cleita Aug 2012 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #72
at this time I stand with Assange 2pooped2pop Aug 2012 #78
And that is how they want you to feel. Autumn Aug 2012 #79
Join the club. pnwmom Aug 2012 #83
Right there with you, buddy Prophet 451 Aug 2012 #114
That's pretty much it. backscatter712 Aug 2012 #122
The words of U.S. government officials make things quite clear. ronnie624 Aug 2012 #140
"right after he threatened to publish some stuff that would make the Banksters look bad" NCTraveler Aug 2012 #120
The actions of the governments involved make no sense in historical context TheKentuckian Aug 2012 #132
"I don't know what the fuck to believe anymore about the Assange case." 99Forever Aug 2012 #133
I agree Johonny Aug 2012 #138
Anyone that TPTB are that desparate to take down hifiguy Aug 2012 #142
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