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fascisthunter

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16. What a creepy government we have

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WikiLeaks' Most Terrifying Revelation: Just How Much Our Government Lies to Us [View all] WillYourVoteBCounted Aug 2012 OP

Wikileaks wouldn't exist if money wasn't the driving force for just about everything organized 2on2u Aug 2012 #1

I am wondering how bad it has to get before the people strike out. rhett o rick Aug 2012 #2

That's Just What Our Government Thinks, Too goodword Aug 2012 #77

Sad thing though is that usually all they end up doing is fighting their own johnlucas Aug 2012 #79

I agree that revolutions will only replace one set of masters with another. rhett o rick Aug 2012 #103

...and there are some that are still Flogging Hillary for VP formercia Aug 2012 #3

Hillary did not act alone. bvar22 Aug 2012 #58

Yes. My biggest problem with Obama is not his economic or foreign policies. It is 1monster Aug 2012 #80

Read War is a Racket sometime. hootinholler Aug 2012 #4

I need to read it, as well as a few others... rwsanders Aug 2012 #9

Lots of good info here... hootinholler Aug 2012 #29

"...the hidden reason for our entry into Vietnam." KansDem Aug 2012 #30

Cheney and Koch seem to be orchestrating much of the Romney/Walker installations, and so this info. midnight Aug 2012 #42

Capitalism doesn't naturally seek innovation in the traditional sense Hydra Aug 2012 #59

Without the Brown bros LBJ would never have run for office dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #95

If you needed wikileaks to realize that... then you must be very young CabCurious Aug 2012 #5

But now it's more than just "realizing" Wednesdays Aug 2012 #6

Did you know that you are using the talking point invented by Stratfor to try to diminish sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #8

I'm waiting for the info. on the bankers... I can't imagine how much worse it could be, but it must midnight Aug 2012 #12

I think they have succeeded in stopping the Bank leaks unfortunately. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #43

Other familiar RW talking point tama Aug 2012 #35

That was the strategy settled on as revealed in the Stratfor emails. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #40

Most who spread it tama Aug 2012 #46

Well we did find out from Wikileaks a few things we could not have imagined in 2008 sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #10

What's so terrible about US officials advocating for Boeing airplanes? pnwmom Aug 2012 #21

And so much more. Thank you for this OP. Flooding DU with anti-Wikileaks spam is sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #7

Yeah, and most of DU is sick of it fascisthunter Aug 2012 #14

Obama administration violates Geneva Convention against torture. OnyxCollie Aug 2012 #11

It's hard to see why the law is side stepped when it's quit clear that we can't be in the business midnight Aug 2012 #15

Well that was certainly spam treestar Aug 2012 #20

So what? Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #68

"This isn't some fucking football game" They_Live Aug 2012 #78

So who will you vote for then? treestar Aug 2012 #108

We had so much hope of seeing the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld liars and criminals finally sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #22

Not to mention the financial crimes Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #101

Never pass up an opportunity to bash Obama, eh? The Doctor. Aug 2012 #48

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How could we secretly bomb a place treestar Aug 2012 #13

I'm sure many folks did notice..... I think the secret part is not reporting it... midnight Aug 2012 #17

So AP and the NYT and the Yemen Times missed it? treestar Aug 2012 #19

I'm sure a lot of average people read those Ash_F Aug 2012 #31

The cover story was that Yemen's military had bombed a place in Yemen kenny blankenship Aug 2012 #44

Do you think that members of the Bush administration who lied this country into sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #23

What a creepy government we have fascisthunter Aug 2012 #16

About the allegations made against Julian Assange: pnwmom Aug 2012 #18

This OP appears to be about the Bush war crimes. What does Assange's personal sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #24

If that is how it appears to you, it's because you didn't read THE WHOLE THING. pnwmom Aug 2012 #25

This OP is about Wikileaks' revelations related to war crimes committed by the Bush sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #27

This OP says it's about how much our government lies to us, both concerning war crimes, pnwmom Aug 2012 #33

This OP is about how Wikileaks demonstrated with whistle blower leaks, how much our sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #41

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All I can say is if anyone cares about this country they will focus on the reasons why sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #50

Sweden could at least question him in the UK GliderGuider Aug 2012 #26

They can't proceed with this particular type of "interview" pnwmom Aug 2012 #34

Could you point me to some support for that? GliderGuider Aug 2012 #36

I will look for it, but I can't remember off the top of my head pnwmom Aug 2012 #37

Okay, I've found something. It's discussed here in "Myth Four." pnwmom Aug 2012 #38

Thanks. That seems to settle that issue. nt GliderGuider Aug 2012 #39

Assange HAS been arrested in London, under a warrant issued by the Swedish Prosecutor. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #51

No, nothing prevents Sweden from having an Interpol arrest of Assange in England, pnwmom Aug 2012 #52

So, they can place him under arrest in London GliderGuider Aug 2012 #54

It would be Interpol arresting him, and then extraditing him to Sweden. pnwmom Aug 2012 #56

No it wouldn't only be Interpo. Sweden is a member of the EU. All members of the EU can issue an EAW sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #90

The Swedes didn't arrest Assange in London - the Brits did. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #82

It was not an Interpol arrest warrant. . sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #55

Wrong. Here is the official notice of the Arrest Warrant Issued by Interpol pnwmom Aug 2012 #60

You said that Sweden could not arrest Assange in London. That was clearly false. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #64

You're still wrong. Sweden could NOT arrest Assange in London. pnwmom Aug 2012 #66

Wrong again. Interpol has nothing to do with the EAW which every member of the EU can sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #67

Sweden cannot arrest Assange in London. Only UK police can do that, in response pnwmom Aug 2012 #72

The British arrested Assange in London, not the Swedes. hack89 Aug 2012 #84

You are lost again. The British had no reason to arrest him. He was arrested under an EAW sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #87

The British executed an European Arrest Warrant - and yes, they were required to honor it. hack89 Aug 2012 #89

What exactly is your point? Yes they did, which means Sweden CAN get their man sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #93

So the Swedes had physical custody of Assange? Because that is what arrest means to most people hack89 Aug 2012 #94

Apparently they don't want him in Sweden or they would have detained him sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #98

Considering he left the day before his scheduled interview with Swedish prosecutors hack89 Aug 2012 #100

No, did not. The women's lawyer has even confirmed that he was free to leave Sweden sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #104

His lawyer testified under oath that he was notified of the interview 6 days before he left hack89 Aug 2012 #105

The lawyer is not Assange. The lawyer explained why he missed the messages, sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #106

He testified that he had a phone call with the prosecutor hack89 Aug 2012 #107

Again with the cut and paste of this discredited author? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #57

He hasn't been discredited. Someone disagreed with him pnwmom Aug 2012 #73

Here is information about the Interpol Arrest Warrant that was issued for Assange. pnwmom Aug 2012 #61

Why doesn't Sweden interview Assange in London? (Anya Palmer) struggle4progress Aug 2012 #70

He has been arrested in London, with an EAW from the Swedish prosecutor. He was jailed sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #45

Yes they can please stop spreading this false information around DU. It has been corrected sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #53

Surprising only to those not paying attention. - K&R :-/ n/t DeSwiss Aug 2012 #28

There's whole lotta to digest tama Aug 2012 #32

K&R. We need to remember why there is a smear campaign against Assange nt magical thyme Aug 2012 #47

None of which should have come as a revelation Prophet 451 Aug 2012 #62

Stop the presses! Who knew? DemocratsForProgress Aug 2012 #63

Afghanistan: The War Logs (WikiLeaks via The Guardian) bobthedrummer Aug 2012 #65

i'm gonna make a wild flying fuck of a guess: you don't remember nixon or reagan, do you? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #71

What a stupid reply. morningfog Aug 2012 #75

Maybe you just had to be there then to have any idea what I'm talking about struggle4progress Aug 2012 #81

What the hell are you even trying to say? You should just say it. morningfog Aug 2012 #83

OP says: Wikileaks revealed to us how much government lies to us. I say: if OP learned that struggle4progress Aug 2012 #85

Which implies we should get used to it and aren't privy to know the truth. morningfog Aug 2012 #86

Huh? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #91

Duh. morningfog Aug 2012 #96

OP says that Wikileaks revealed specific war crimes. Not one of them has been addressed sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #88

. Wilms Aug 2012 #74

Our Government Lies to Us???? goodword Aug 2012 #76

du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #92

yes--and are any of those murderers being prosecuted? No, the guy who told us about the crimes librechik Aug 2012 #97

The biggest lie goes unspoken here ... Eddie Haskell Aug 2012 #99

Bookmarked Generic Other Aug 2012 #102