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Response to rocktivity (Reply #33)
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:38 PM
BlueStreak (8,009 posts)
38. I agree with your points. It doesn't guarantee us victory, but it is a more accurate
way to view things.
The big network media has always had cozy relationships with the candidates. Rove took this to a new level, being ruthless with access. And Romney is trying to play that same game, mainly hanging out on Faux, and making reporters to agree certain questions are off-limits ("If you ask me about rape, abortion, or Akin, we'll throw you out and you will never get access again.")
That is one battle front. But the other battle front is, as you mentioned, in the blogoshpere. The tighter they get with the network media, the more it hurts them in the blogosphere because their tactics are observed and widely reported. It exposes the cowards, what they are hiding, and why.
Not everybody is hooked into the blog world, and that cuts 2 ways. There are a lot of people on the right that evidently frequent places like Drudge and FreeRepublic. We won't get many of those people, as they are the most extreme. But to totality of people from either side tuned into the blogs is probably less than 5% of the public. It is the SECONDARY communications that make the difference. How we interact with those who are being bombarded by the hysterical claims from the right will be decisive.
A person who wants to believe that Obama was born in Kenya will do so. But there are millions who have heard that and are not automatically pre-disposed to believe it.
We have truth on our side, and we have intelligent reasoning on our side. Hell, we have the ability to formulate complete sentences on our side. The blogs enable us to have these secondary interactions in an effective way, and THAT is what has made the media networks obsolete. They are no longer trusted, and frankly, don't even seem to try very hard to be relevant.
I am probably no different than many others here. I have a posse of about 20 right-wingers hammering on me every day with the extremistscrap that doesn't have even a tiny bit of truth. My goal is to win over 1 or 2 of them. But that isn't the main purpose. The main purpose is a:
a) let them all know that not everybody agrees with them (which seems never to have occurred to any of them. Indeed if you spend you entire existence with Faux and Friends or Glenn Beck, I guess you wouldn't have any reason to believe there was anything else.)
b) Let them know that they are spreading lies and every lie will be opposed. The goal here is twofold. If I can coerce them into actually checking their facts, they might actually learn that they have been idiots, and if that doesn't happen, at least they are served notice that others do check their facts and judge them.
I don't know that I have won over any of them yet. But 5 went up in smoke, heads exploding at the slightest push-back, so I don't have to deal with them anymore. Two have changed their behavior in a big way. They rarely send me the most hysterical stuff anymore. Mostly they send me things that are matters of opinion. I respond politely with why I have a different opinion. It always comes down to things I value. I ask them is they truly don't value the same things or if it is just a case that they haven't thought it through. Those are civil conversations now. I haven't won them over, but I am pretty sure they are no longer bombarding everyone they know with the right-wing trash they were sending out daily.
Anyway, that's a long-winded way of saying there are a lot more people who can come to our side than the polls indicate.
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