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128. The technology required doesn't exist. You frame as if it does, and we've decided not to use it. nt

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Global Warming: Why do people believe that humans will go EXTINCT? (Seriously) [View all] AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 OP

Err,,,ok trumad Aug 2012 #1

Sorry, I've never been a good speechwriter....half-decent, maybe...........=( AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #2

Extinction of all life on Earth scheduled for 2031-2051 ErikJ Aug 2012 #112

You do realize that's been debunked, right? AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #140

Read up on the Permian Extinction. That was a major case of global warming hobbit709 Aug 2012 #3

I suppose maybe in the FAR, FAR, future..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #8

Well if things end up like Warhammer 40k Drale Aug 2012 #127

The planet won't "see" anything. GaYellowDawg Aug 2012 #18

I never said I believed in the Gaia hypothesis. The planet exists-it has nothing to do with us. hobbit709 Aug 2012 #19

hear hear! KatyMan Aug 2012 #33

It's a "metaphor". English class! nt Romulox Aug 2012 #38

It is a SERIOUSLY OVERUSED metaphor, and a poor one at that, AND GaYellowDawg Aug 2012 #88

Some people don't think it's a metaphor Confusious Aug 2012 #104

I think humans likely face extinction cali Aug 2012 #4

Why do I care? Because it's not helping people wake up! AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #6

I don't think there's the problem you seem to believe exists, Joe. cali Aug 2012 #11

Except dinosaurs aren't extinct Scootaloo Aug 2012 #24

Excellent point! randome Aug 2012 #26

I for one welcome the eventual return of our therapod overlords n/t Scootaloo Aug 2012 #67

Sharks are still alive. boppers Aug 2012 #109

I see the point. randome Aug 2012 #5

Yep. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #7

What about the idea of 'encouraging' algae growth? randome Aug 2012 #10

I do not believe people will go extinct. Marrah_G Aug 2012 #9

I think that's extremely unlikely, however... Fumesucker Aug 2012 #12

Who said we would go extinct? Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #13

98% of all lifeforms on Earth went extinct. longship Aug 2012 #14

Humans ARE special. randome Aug 2012 #15

Yes, and no. longship Aug 2012 #25

Humans have far more sophisticated language, and planning abilities muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #41

So we can have conversations like this: GliderGuider Aug 2012 #42

And also so we can have conversations like this: randome Aug 2012 #43

I agree with that completely. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #45

Sure, stone tools and fire are tech. longship Aug 2012 #44

No, I think it would help us muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #51

No large animals survived the K/T extinction longship Aug 2012 #65

"except those which became today's" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #66

Sorry. Do not see it happening. longship Aug 2012 #81

Well. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #84

I think you're claiming things about the K/T extinction that are not known muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #86

The large dinosaurs were probably killed by the traumatic event itself longship Aug 2012 #93

I must admit I'd forgotten the idea of a global fire storm muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #113

Interesting. longship Aug 2012 #114

If another K/T event ever does occur..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #83

Ah! The Steven Hawking (or Phil Plait) solution. longship Aug 2012 #95

I don't see WW3 happening in any of our lifetimes, TBH. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #69

Well, I was just giving an example. longship Aug 2012 #76

I'm not all that optimistic, either. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #85

We'll save Australia. Nobody'd want to hurt a kangaroo... longship Aug 2012 #94

Yet all our closest relatives on the evolutionary tree: ARE EXTINCT Johonny Aug 2012 #47

And giraffes are the only ones to have 10 foot necks. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #121

"We have to do this, for the sake of humanity..... Shankapotomus Aug 2012 #16

Might be best for the planet if we did become extinct. dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #17

Ever wish the human race didn't exist? taterguy Aug 2012 #20

Did you know dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #21

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! Kip Humphrey Aug 2012 #22

Global warming won't kill humanity, just our civilization. We will end up "Fallout"-style. DetlefK Aug 2012 #23

Because we care more for $$ and killing each other than improving our plight and future options? hlthe2b Aug 2012 #27

Extinct? No. Greatly reduced in number? Probably. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #28

That is indeed possible, unfortunately. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #70

Sometimes doomsayers serve a purpose fasttense Aug 2012 #29

Good point about the doomsayers. randome Aug 2012 #34

I'm sorry, but I seriously CAN'T agree with that. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #74

Well, here's the best part... YellowRubberDuckie Aug 2012 #30

I read a very good scientific article showing that past warming.. ananda Aug 2012 #31

There's a group of weirdos on DU who claim we must emigrate to space, "to survive as a species". Romulox Aug 2012 #32

I would not have a problem with that. randome Aug 2012 #35

No, but *reality* does. It's as silly as anything labeled "woo" on these boards. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #37

Why is that silly? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #46

It's so far beyond the present capabilities of humanity so as to be science-fantasy. That's what. Romulox Aug 2012 #99

Going to the moon was so far beyond the present capabilities of humanity 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #115

And yet we don't live on the moon, some 50 years later. Just wishing for it isn't enough. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #116

We haven't switched to clean renewable energy yet 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #119

The technology required doesn't exist. You frame as if it does, and we've decided not to use it. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #128

In the 60s we could put a man on the moon 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #138

It could work..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #100

"the governments of the world are going to have to get off their fat lazy asses" Speck Tater Aug 2012 #107

It's also a dubious goal. Most of humanity might prefer to preserve our actual, viable home. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #117

Not so much human nature itself, but rather, societal attitudes. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #120

The fantasy of living in space is not equivalent to the Civil Rights movement. My god. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #132

There was a group of weirdos who claimed you could sail west from Europe... Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #59

There was also a group that claimed you could make gold from lead. Some people are wrong, too. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #98

The people who claim we can live in space have evidence 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #123

Regarding your last sentence..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #125

Some people think renewables are a viable energy source 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #137

Some people think that we can't control the weather.... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #139

There is no evidence that humanity can find a home in space to escape extinction on earth. Romulox Aug 2012 #130

So what exactly are humans incapable of doing? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #136

They had the technology to test that, incidentally jberryhill Aug 2012 #103

They had a slight advantage. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #108

Impossible! Science fantasy! 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #122

Gibberish. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #129

I mean, why don't we just TELEPORT to our "New Eden" in the cosmos. It's *possible*, after all! Romulox Aug 2012 #131

Og stupid, og think rocks make tool if smashed together 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #135

Exactly! AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #134

Err Dinosaurs species went extinct all the time so number 1 is confusing a species and a clade Johonny Aug 2012 #36

Only problem with that is, there's never been a life form such as humanity before..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #96

You want a serious answer? Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #39

Well said. nt NickB79 Aug 2012 #49

Good post, Junkdrawer. Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #64

I love the 'could it be...?' framing. So comforting. redqueen Aug 2012 #71

Yeah. Maybe when we hit 1.2 C warming, clouds will start forming higher... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #87

Ha... redqueen Aug 2012 #90

Just in time for Earth Overshoot Day! (which is today) GliderGuider Aug 2012 #40

Hitler didn't kill Jews to extinction mick063 Aug 2012 #48

A 48-post Godwin! Not a record, but well played anyway! nt GliderGuider Aug 2012 #50

And only 50 before the tired Godwin meme gets advertised... well played you too! LanternWaste Aug 2012 #77

We will go extinct if we don't ramp up space exploration. modem77 Aug 2012 #52

The human race is too dumb, greedy and mean to be able to survive. nt ladjf Aug 2012 #53

Three words...Six Degrees Celsius. FedUpWithIt All Aug 2012 #54

Further, creating known alternative energy systems FedUpWithIt All Aug 2012 #57

Can't agree with that first sentence because there's no proof that that's true for ALL of them. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #75

That video was made 9 months ago and it's already too optimistic... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #62

Exactly. nt redqueen Aug 2012 #72

One Reason Some People Believe Global Warming Will Drive Humans to Extinction On the Road Aug 2012 #55

That's simple - because most of the species that ever lived have done just that hatrack Aug 2012 #56

Actually, it does give us a Get Out Of Jail Free Card. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #82

This might be ONE reason nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #58

Yeah I don't understand it either. raouldukelives Aug 2012 #60

I think that is the exact point LondonReign2 Aug 2012 #63

A lot of them simply *want* humans to go extinct. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #61

Why do people believe our culture of civilization is sustainable? greyl Aug 2012 #68

To be quite honest....... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #73

We may not go extinct, but we'll never be here again. CrispyQ Aug 2012 #78

I don't think most of us think we can control Nature..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #79

As individuals, no. But as a collective? CrispyQ Aug 2012 #80

Worse comes to worse, we pack the kids in the car with a few 12 packs of water and some seeds... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #91

I think humans COULD become extinct, if theophilus Aug 2012 #89

We probably won't go extinct Nikia Aug 2012 #92

Pretty much how I view things. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #97

Methane. We can't breathe it. aquart Aug 2012 #101

We are the apex species in this age... Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #102

we almost went extinct... madrchsod Aug 2012 #105

We interrupt this debate for an important message. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #106

Indeed. boppers Aug 2012 #110

Can we breathe methane oxide? Amonester Aug 2012 #111

Because many polluters want people to think we can reverse anything; Greybnk48 Aug 2012 #118

That isn't quite what I've heard. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #124

Individual species of dinosaurs went extinct all the time. yardwork Aug 2012 #126

Yeah, so? AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #133