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Junkdrawer

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87. Yeah. Maybe when we hit 1.2 C warming, clouds will start forming higher...

Wed Aug 22, 2012, 05:53 PM

Aug 2012

in the tropical atmosphere and we'll learn that we were all worried about nothing.

And maybe unicorns will show up at my door with leprechaun gold and my retirement will be assured.

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Global Warming: Why do people believe that humans will go EXTINCT? (Seriously) [View all] AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 OP

Err,,,ok trumad Aug 2012 #1

Sorry, I've never been a good speechwriter....half-decent, maybe...........=( AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #2

Extinction of all life on Earth scheduled for 2031-2051 ErikJ Aug 2012 #112

You do realize that's been debunked, right? AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #140

Read up on the Permian Extinction. That was a major case of global warming hobbit709 Aug 2012 #3

I suppose maybe in the FAR, FAR, future..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #8

Well if things end up like Warhammer 40k Drale Aug 2012 #127

The planet won't "see" anything. GaYellowDawg Aug 2012 #18

I never said I believed in the Gaia hypothesis. The planet exists-it has nothing to do with us. hobbit709 Aug 2012 #19

hear hear! KatyMan Aug 2012 #33

It's a "metaphor". English class! nt Romulox Aug 2012 #38

It is a SERIOUSLY OVERUSED metaphor, and a poor one at that, AND GaYellowDawg Aug 2012 #88

Some people don't think it's a metaphor Confusious Aug 2012 #104

I think humans likely face extinction cali Aug 2012 #4

Why do I care? Because it's not helping people wake up! AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #6

I don't think there's the problem you seem to believe exists, Joe. cali Aug 2012 #11

Except dinosaurs aren't extinct Scootaloo Aug 2012 #24

Excellent point! randome Aug 2012 #26

I for one welcome the eventual return of our therapod overlords n/t Scootaloo Aug 2012 #67

Sharks are still alive. boppers Aug 2012 #109

I see the point. randome Aug 2012 #5

Yep. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #7

What about the idea of 'encouraging' algae growth? randome Aug 2012 #10

I do not believe people will go extinct. Marrah_G Aug 2012 #9

I think that's extremely unlikely, however... Fumesucker Aug 2012 #12

Who said we would go extinct? Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #13

98% of all lifeforms on Earth went extinct. longship Aug 2012 #14

Humans ARE special. randome Aug 2012 #15

Yes, and no. longship Aug 2012 #25

Humans have far more sophisticated language, and planning abilities muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #41

So we can have conversations like this: GliderGuider Aug 2012 #42

And also so we can have conversations like this: randome Aug 2012 #43

I agree with that completely. GliderGuider Aug 2012 #45

Sure, stone tools and fire are tech. longship Aug 2012 #44

No, I think it would help us muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #51

No large animals survived the K/T extinction longship Aug 2012 #65

"except those which became today's" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #66

Sorry. Do not see it happening. longship Aug 2012 #81

Well. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #84

I think you're claiming things about the K/T extinction that are not known muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #86

The large dinosaurs were probably killed by the traumatic event itself longship Aug 2012 #93

I must admit I'd forgotten the idea of a global fire storm muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #113

Interesting. longship Aug 2012 #114

If another K/T event ever does occur..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #83

Ah! The Steven Hawking (or Phil Plait) solution. longship Aug 2012 #95

I don't see WW3 happening in any of our lifetimes, TBH. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #69

Well, I was just giving an example. longship Aug 2012 #76

I'm not all that optimistic, either. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #85

We'll save Australia. Nobody'd want to hurt a kangaroo... longship Aug 2012 #94

Yet all our closest relatives on the evolutionary tree: ARE EXTINCT Johonny Aug 2012 #47

And giraffes are the only ones to have 10 foot necks. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #121

"We have to do this, for the sake of humanity..... Shankapotomus Aug 2012 #16

Might be best for the planet if we did become extinct. dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #17

Ever wish the human race didn't exist? taterguy Aug 2012 #20

Did you know dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #21

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!! Kip Humphrey Aug 2012 #22

Global warming won't kill humanity, just our civilization. We will end up "Fallout"-style. DetlefK Aug 2012 #23

Because we care more for $$ and killing each other than improving our plight and future options? hlthe2b Aug 2012 #27

Extinct? No. Greatly reduced in number? Probably. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #28

That is indeed possible, unfortunately. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #70

Sometimes doomsayers serve a purpose fasttense Aug 2012 #29

Good point about the doomsayers. randome Aug 2012 #34

I'm sorry, but I seriously CAN'T agree with that. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #74

Well, here's the best part... YellowRubberDuckie Aug 2012 #30

I read a very good scientific article showing that past warming.. ananda Aug 2012 #31

There's a group of weirdos on DU who claim we must emigrate to space, "to survive as a species". Romulox Aug 2012 #32

I would not have a problem with that. randome Aug 2012 #35

No, but *reality* does. It's as silly as anything labeled "woo" on these boards. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #37

Why is that silly? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #46

It's so far beyond the present capabilities of humanity so as to be science-fantasy. That's what. Romulox Aug 2012 #99

Going to the moon was so far beyond the present capabilities of humanity 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #115

And yet we don't live on the moon, some 50 years later. Just wishing for it isn't enough. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #116

We haven't switched to clean renewable energy yet 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #119

The technology required doesn't exist. You frame as if it does, and we've decided not to use it. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #128

In the 60s we could put a man on the moon 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #138

It could work..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #100

"the governments of the world are going to have to get off their fat lazy asses" Speck Tater Aug 2012 #107

It's also a dubious goal. Most of humanity might prefer to preserve our actual, viable home. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #117

Not so much human nature itself, but rather, societal attitudes. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #120

The fantasy of living in space is not equivalent to the Civil Rights movement. My god. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #132

There was a group of weirdos who claimed you could sail west from Europe... Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #59

There was also a group that claimed you could make gold from lead. Some people are wrong, too. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #98

The people who claim we can live in space have evidence 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #123

Regarding your last sentence..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #125

Some people think renewables are a viable energy source 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #137

Some people think that we can't control the weather.... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #139

There is no evidence that humanity can find a home in space to escape extinction on earth. Romulox Aug 2012 #130

So what exactly are humans incapable of doing? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #136

They had the technology to test that, incidentally jberryhill Aug 2012 #103

They had a slight advantage. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #108

Impossible! Science fantasy! 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #122

Gibberish. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #129

I mean, why don't we just TELEPORT to our "New Eden" in the cosmos. It's *possible*, after all! Romulox Aug 2012 #131

Og stupid, og think rocks make tool if smashed together 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #135

Exactly! AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #134

Err Dinosaurs species went extinct all the time so number 1 is confusing a species and a clade Johonny Aug 2012 #36

Only problem with that is, there's never been a life form such as humanity before..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #96

You want a serious answer? Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #39

Well said. nt NickB79 Aug 2012 #49

Good post, Junkdrawer. Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #64

I love the 'could it be...?' framing. So comforting. redqueen Aug 2012 #71

Yeah. Maybe when we hit 1.2 C warming, clouds will start forming higher... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #87

Ha... redqueen Aug 2012 #90

Just in time for Earth Overshoot Day! (which is today) GliderGuider Aug 2012 #40

Hitler didn't kill Jews to extinction mick063 Aug 2012 #48

A 48-post Godwin! Not a record, but well played anyway! nt GliderGuider Aug 2012 #50

And only 50 before the tired Godwin meme gets advertised... well played you too! LanternWaste Aug 2012 #77

We will go extinct if we don't ramp up space exploration. modem77 Aug 2012 #52

The human race is too dumb, greedy and mean to be able to survive. nt ladjf Aug 2012 #53

Three words...Six Degrees Celsius. FedUpWithIt All Aug 2012 #54

Further, creating known alternative energy systems FedUpWithIt All Aug 2012 #57

Can't agree with that first sentence because there's no proof that that's true for ALL of them. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #75

That video was made 9 months ago and it's already too optimistic... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #62

Exactly. nt redqueen Aug 2012 #72

One Reason Some People Believe Global Warming Will Drive Humans to Extinction On the Road Aug 2012 #55

That's simple - because most of the species that ever lived have done just that hatrack Aug 2012 #56

Actually, it does give us a Get Out Of Jail Free Card. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #82

This might be ONE reason nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #58

Yeah I don't understand it either. raouldukelives Aug 2012 #60

I think that is the exact point LondonReign2 Aug 2012 #63

A lot of them simply *want* humans to go extinct. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #61

Why do people believe our culture of civilization is sustainable? greyl Aug 2012 #68

To be quite honest....... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #73

We may not go extinct, but we'll never be here again. CrispyQ Aug 2012 #78

I don't think most of us think we can control Nature..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #79

As individuals, no. But as a collective? CrispyQ Aug 2012 #80

Worse comes to worse, we pack the kids in the car with a few 12 packs of water and some seeds... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #91

I think humans COULD become extinct, if theophilus Aug 2012 #89

We probably won't go extinct Nikia Aug 2012 #92

Pretty much how I view things. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #97

Methane. We can't breathe it. aquart Aug 2012 #101

We are the apex species in this age... Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #102

we almost went extinct... madrchsod Aug 2012 #105

We interrupt this debate for an important message. Speck Tater Aug 2012 #106

Indeed. boppers Aug 2012 #110

Can we breathe methane oxide? Amonester Aug 2012 #111

Because many polluters want people to think we can reverse anything; Greybnk48 Aug 2012 #118

That isn't quite what I've heard. AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #124

Individual species of dinosaurs went extinct all the time. yardwork Aug 2012 #126

Yeah, so? AverageJoe90 Aug 2012 #133