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Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:50 AM

raccoon (21,270 posts)

149. It may be rape, but I doubt if even Clarence Darrow could get a conviction in this case. nt

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193 replies	Author	Time	Post
I have a question for DU ladies. [View all]	NashvilleLefty	Aug 2012	OP
I'm a man. It's rape	BlueJazz	Aug 2012	#1
First post is the winner	REP	Aug 2012	#19
Yes, it most certainly IS. n/t	hlthe2b	Aug 2012	#30
+1,000,000,000!!!!!!!	Liberal_Stalwart71	Aug 2012	#82
Violated!	haikugal	Aug 2012	#2
YUP!	Marie Marie	Aug 2012	#3
Yes	Freddie	Aug 2012	#4
Yes.	redwitch	Aug 2012	#5
Just to be clear, this didn't happen to me.	NashvilleLefty	Aug 2012	#15
Sorry!	redwitch	Aug 2012	#45
According to text messages from Assange's sex patner..	girl gone mad	Aug 2012	#69
I will bet a million dollars the OP doesn't respond. nt	Bonobo	Aug 2012	#89
you lose.	NashvilleLefty	Aug 2012	#121
Since my goal was to pressure you to respond, I actually feel like a winner. nt	Bonobo	Aug 2012	#123
Cool! then who gets the million dollars?	NashvilleLefty	Aug 2012	#127
If I had it, I would give it to these guys:	Bonobo	Aug 2012	#131
I fully agree. nt	NashvilleLefty	Aug 2012	#141
So if the victim doesn't fight back sufficiently hard in your opinion, the rape doesn't count? (nt)	jeff47	Aug 2012	#92
If I'm in bed with a guy I'm consensually sleeping with and he get's a hard on	KoKo	Aug 2012	#95
The condition given for previous sex was "use a condom".	jeff47	Aug 2012	#100
He penetrated her while she was still asleep. By the time she asked him if he was wearing	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#106
There were two women, not one.	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#104
The time-line you describe does not match her official	NashvilleLefty	Aug 2012	#120
You are wrong, the time-line matches perfectly	reorg	Aug 2012	#189
Totally doesn't surprise me! :(	Liberal_Stalwart71	Aug 2012	#83
Yes. Absolutely. nt	frogmarch	Aug 2012	#6
Rape. You have to have permission, be invited, for each penetration or sexual activity.	NYC_SKP	Aug 2012	#7
Who is going to be standing there counting? How do you know which one	KoKo	Aug 2012	#97
I was taking the hypothetical of the OP in the most general sense, not related to the Assange case.	NYC_SKP	Aug 2012	#99
Okay...I understand your "hypothetical" and would agree but...this seemed about Assange...	KoKo	Aug 2012	#102
In the Assange case...	NYC_SKP	Aug 2012	#109
I just edited my post subject line to you...btw...	KoKo	Aug 2012	#112
This message was self-deleted by its author	Robyn66	Aug 2012	#114
Rape,,,,	WCGreen	Aug 2012	#8
I would think he was an asshole and throw him out	Marrah_G	Aug 2012	#9
I'd kick his ass out the door and down the stairs	Warpy	Aug 2012	#14
Rape and the woman involved should press charges.	theinquisitivechad	Aug 2012	#10
Agree 100%.	WillowTree	Aug 2012	#16
I like that a lot, WillowTree! "My body, My rules."	calimary	Aug 2012	#191
Yes, it's rape. n/t	tammywammy	Aug 2012	#11
Absolutely it's rape. Without consent, it's rape.	progressivebydesign	Aug 2012	#12
.	Inkfreak	Aug 2012	#71
AMEN!!! The outrage over Assange is pretty creepy here on DU.	Liberal_Stalwart71	Aug 2012	#84
Even his own colleague, the Stockholm Wikileaks coordinator	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#107
and he would know motre than anyone else why ?	Swagman	Aug 2012	#135
If Assange engaged in this kind of behavior with two women in one week,	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#137
why is OK for some on DU to think they know the truth of what went on?	Swagman	Aug 2012	#133
Probably, but then I probably would also pass on having sex	Cleita	Aug 2012	#13
Absolutely.	gollygee	Aug 2012	#17
exactly - the condom is less relevant than her being asleep	spooky3	Aug 2012	#119
This post was hidden by jury decision.	deaniac21	Aug 2012	#18
wtf	seabeyond	Aug 2012	#21
STD's can still be transmitted via oral sex. nt	NashvilleLefty	Aug 2012	#24
sick...	DURHAM D	Aug 2012	#28
Do you have plans for the next couple of months?	jberryhill	Aug 2012	#31
WTF does that even mean? n/t	LadyHawkAZ	Aug 2012	#46
spoiled little boy had to have his way without consideration to the woman. now whines	seabeyond	Aug 2012	#20
He has agreed to answer to go to Sweden to answer to the sex charges.	Cleita	Aug 2012	#23
Yes, and if only his story made a lick of sense, it might worth something	jeff47	Aug 2012	#93
Isn't that what the UK is threatening to do?	Cleita	Aug 2012	#98
No, the UK is threatening to send him to Sweden.	jeff47	Aug 2012	#103
your faith in US law is admirable eveb though there is the sticky problem of GITMO	Swagman	Aug 2012	#138
Why have fath in anyone, including Assange?	jeff47	Aug 2012	#155
So what do you think about George Bush and Dick Cheney running around free	Cleita	Aug 2012	#162
I think they should be in jail	jeff47	Aug 2012	#170
Since when does the accused get to set conditions like that? n/t	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#110
can you give me anothe rexample of when a suspect is invited to another country for an interview?	Swagman	Aug 2012	#139
I don't think you understand what happened. It is normal in Europe	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#142
And I don't think you understand that he is willing to go to Sweden	Cleita	Aug 2012	#164
Sweden has extradition agreements with the US that could theoretically require them to do so --	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#167
Exactly, but since our justice system, especially when in comes to covering	Cleita	Aug 2012	#188
The accused sets conditions like that all the time.	Cleita	Aug 2012	#161
so you were there were you?	Swagman	Aug 2012	#136
then send his ass back to sweden and let him face the charges like everyone else has to. nt	seabeyond	Aug 2012	#143
Hell yes it's rape!	nolabear	Aug 2012	#22
Rape. Betrayal. And get tested.	Katie	Aug 2012	#25
it's not about rape.	HiPointDem	Aug 2012	#26
That's not what Stockholm's Wikileaks coordinator says.	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#111
I can see nothing about rape in that statement	reorg	Aug 2012	#179
The investigation he's referring to includes charges of rape, molestation, and assault.	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#180
He said nothing about rape	reorg	Aug 2012	#183
I don't agree with your slant. I think he's just using the Wikileaks situation	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#186
Unconsented to sex = rape. n/t	Hepburn	Aug 2012	#27
I'd tell him to put a condom on or pull out.	Luminous Animal	Aug 2012	#29
I don't know if that is quite accurate.	MADem	Aug 2012	#36
There is nothing that I have stated about Miss W that your link contradicts.	Luminous Animal	Aug 2012	#38
Did you read the entire discussion? There's additional material offered by the participants.	MADem	Aug 2012	#49
Miss W declined to sign the affidavit the very day she made her complaint...	Luminous Animal	Aug 2012	#51
She wanted him tested for STDs, and that still has not happened.	MADem	Aug 2012	#58
what on earth are you talking about? what have other cases got to do with this?	Swagman	Aug 2012	#140
You're funny.	MADem	Aug 2012	#147
That is exactly how I remember it.	Live and Learn	Aug 2012	#144
I think she was tricked	reorg	Aug 2012	#185
Yes.	Zoeisright	Aug 2012	#32
Very interesting replies.	MADem	Aug 2012	#33
With all due respect, this is a stupid question with	Raven	Aug 2012	#34
Raven, this has nothing to do with "generic rape."	MADem	Aug 2012	#50
+1 My thought too dear Raven. Highly questionable post content.	BeHereNow	Aug 2012	#62
The motive is clear.	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#116
Which makes it the perfect foil...	BlueNinja	Aug 2012	#150
Welcome to DU, BlueNinja! nt	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#157
Thanks for the welcome!	BlueNinja	Aug 2012	#159
Not a woman, but that is rape!	Behind the Aegis	Aug 2012	#35
I would consent to continuing the sex..	girl gone mad	Aug 2012	#37
Yes. At the very least, total disrespect for you as a human being.	appleannie1	Aug 2012	#39
I would support what the woman said it was. If this is about Assange's case, both women said NO rape	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#40
What if it was the other way around?	ErikJ	Aug 2012	#41
This message was self-deleted by its author	U4ikLefty	Aug 2012	#61
Hell yes!	Th1onein	Aug 2012	#42
you present a strange case	lunasun	Aug 2012	#43
Thanks for that link	JonLP24	Aug 2012	#67
sigh. We need better science education	jeff47	Aug 2012	#96
I still find it strange	JonLP24	Aug 2012	#163
It happens all the time in rape cases.	jeff47	Aug 2012	#169
I was aware	JonLP24	Aug 2012	#171
Rape	onpatrol98	Aug 2012	#44
Absolutely. Saying "no, not unless you use a condom", means no.	Zorra	Aug 2012	#47
It would depend how I felt about it at the time it was happening	LadyHawkAZ	Aug 2012	#48
it's Rape	JI7	Aug 2012	#52
Yes, it's rape	ismnotwasm	Aug 2012	#53
Don't you trolls have a meeting tonight?	RagAss	Aug 2012	#54
O_o	Catherine Vincent	Aug 2012	#55
That's rape. Isn't this what Assange accused of doing in one case? n/t	vaberella	Aug 2012	#56
No, this isn't what he is accused of doing	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#86
It would seem he was...link to a poster's comment below:	vaberella	Aug 2012	#91
It's rape with or without the condom	TorchTheWitch	Aug 2012	#57
Rape	bhikkhu	Aug 2012	#59
assault w/ a deadly weapon.	pansypoo53219	Aug 2012	#60
Yes.	Blue_In_AK	Aug 2012	#63
RAPE	blueamy66	Aug 2012	#64
I'm usually pretty liberal about these things....	blueamy66	Aug 2012	#64
Would you consider it an international incident?	me b zola	Aug 2012	#66
yes if i was the victim of a rape, then i would want my government to get the asshole whatever it	loli phabay	Aug 2012	#75
Yes it is rape	GObamaGO	Aug 2012	#68
It is rape.	MadrasT	Aug 2012	#70
I have no patience with	Le Taz Hot	Aug 2012	#72
...	SammyWinstonJack	Aug 2012	#90
What if that person were considered a hero	NashvilleLefty	Aug 2012	#73
Still rape. But if someone was coerced into alleging a rape, or	Zorra	Aug 2012	#78
Yes. n/t	RebelOne	Aug 2012	#74
Absolutely! No question.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Aug 2012	#76
No consent = rape	no_hypocrisy	Aug 2012	#77
Yes it would be rape. However, only someone in a coma would not wake up upon penetration.	notadmblnd	Aug 2012	#79
And in fact, the person in Assange's case did wake up.	Bonobo	Aug 2012	#88
not true	spooky3	Aug 2012	#122
Do tell.	notadmblnd	Aug 2012	#172
Interesting that you are now adding so many new conditions - and besides,	spooky3	Aug 2012	#173
I said one would have to be in a coma not to wake up. I thought that would have pretty	notadmblnd	Aug 2012	#175
Having sex with a sleeping woman	clydefrand	Aug 2012	#80
Absolutely! First, he new my wishes. Second, he exposed me to a possible unwanted pregnancy. Third..	Liberal_Stalwart71	Aug 2012	#81
Not answering	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#85
Yes.	MotherPetrie	Aug 2012	#87
Yep. That's rape. And the law sees it that way, too, IIRC.	kestrel91316	Aug 2012	#94
that guy would end up without a penis	Skittles	Aug 2012	#101
Hmm...sex without my consent...let me think...	cynatnite	Aug 2012	#105
This message was self-deleted by its author	Robyn66	Aug 2012	#108
It is rape whether he used a condom or not. If I was asleep/drunk/drugged	Roselma	Aug 2012	#113
Yes. But I have a question too...	Pholus	Aug 2012	#115
His colleague at the Stockholm Wikileaks thinks this should be treated	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#117
Well, it's not like this situation will go on forever.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#118
I would agree with him.	NashvilleLefty	Aug 2012	#124
Figures. Just a drive-by cut-n-paste. Too bad.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#125
Obviously you don't know pnwmom,	NashvilleLefty	Aug 2012	#128
OK if you say so.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#130
How is this relevent? There is no evidence that either	NashvilleLefty	Aug 2012	#126
MLK was not having an affair with an FBI agent either.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#129
Has the US government ever used sex as a weapon . . .	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#134
You might be correct.	Pholus	Aug 2012	#145
Assange's also guilty of invading people's privacy.	pnwmom	Aug 2012	#146
Good thing he made that bad decision too....	Pholus	Aug 2012	#148
I have a question for DUers	Swagman	Aug 2012	#132
It may be rape, but I doubt if even Clarence Darrow could get a conviction in this case. nt	raccoon	Aug 2012	#149
Are you serious? Duh. What do YOU think?	catbyte	Aug 2012	#151
yes	Lebam in LA	Aug 2012	#152
Yes.	AngryOldDem	Aug 2012	#153
Yes. I'd consider that to be rape.	MineralMan	Aug 2012	#154
First, I suffer from insomnia and I want some of whatever you are using to get to sleep...	renie408	Aug 2012	#156
How often do allegations of rape result in...?	LanternWaste	Aug 2012	#158
How is the US government involved?	NCTraveler	Aug 2012	#160
US govt. representatives requests he get prosecuted under Espoinage Act	LanternWaste	Aug 2012	#165
"How often do allegations of rape result in"	NCTraveler	Aug 2012	#168
Yep, that's rape	Taverner	Aug 2012	#166
they're called "women" not ladies	datasuspect	Aug 2012	#174
LOL	lightcameron	Aug 2012	#192
Defenetly RAPE.	darkangel218	Aug 2012	#176
absolutely rape.	AsahinaKimi	Aug 2012	#177
Which one gets you harder?	luvspeas	Aug 2012	#178
Yes, definitely.	Mad_Dem_X	Aug 2012	#181
I'm not a woman	reorg	Aug 2012	#182
Yes	Karmasue	Aug 2012	#184
Well, HELL yeah! Why even ASK??	WinkyDink	Aug 2012	#187
Yes. ABSOLUTELY.	calimary	Aug 2012	#190
this is by far, the weirdest inane post I have ever seen on DU nt	Laura PourMeADrink	Aug 2012	#193

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