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struggle4progress

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Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:55 AM Aug 2012

Julian Assange är inget offer (Julian Assange is not a victim) [View all]

Ecuador meddelade i torsdags att landet beviljar Wikileaksgrundaren Julian Assange politisk asyl. Beslutet berör överhuvudtaget inte skuldfrågan i det svenska ärendet, där han är skäligen misstänkt för våldtäkt, två fall av sexuellt ofredande samt ett fall av olaga tvång involverande två olika kvinnor.

... Överlag har argumenten kring hela Assange-affären gradvis förskjutits och varierat beroende på om de förts av Assanges svenska eller internationella tillskyndare ... Tre olika spår kan skönjas. Det första, där en CIA-komplott arrangerat hela händelseförloppet med förförande kvinnor och falska anklagelser med syfte att misskreditera Assange, och få honom utlämnad till USA. Det andra har ifrågasatt det svenska rättssystemet. Åklagaren har anklagats för att inte dela med sig av bevis, att procedurer har åsidosatts och att Assange inte har blivit delgiven på ett korrekt vis.

Det tredje argumentet är det mest, så att säga, intressanta. Utomlands anklagas Sverige för att vara ett ”feminismens Saudiarabien”, där de svenska lagarna kring våldtäkt och sexualbrott sägs vara påverkade av en radikal feminism. Denna åsikt framförs sällan i Sverige. I samtliga dessa fall är Assange offret, och de anmälande kvinnorna avfärdas.


http://ekuriren.se/ledareasikter/ledare/1.1525031-julian-assange-ar-inget-offer


Ecuador announced on Thursday that the country is granting Julian Assange political asylum. That decision doesn't affect the Swedish case, in which he is reasonably suspected of rape, two counts of sexual molestation, and one case of unlawful coercion involving two different women ...

... Overall, arguments about the Assange affair have shifted and varied, depending on whether they are made ​​by Assange's Swedish or international promoters ... Three different tracks can be seen. In the first, a CIA conspiracy organized the whole event with seductive women and false allegations aimed at discrediting Assange and his extradition to the US. The others question the Swedish legal system. The prosecutor is accused of failing to share evidence that procedures have been violated and that Assange has not been informed in a proper manner.

The third argument is the most interesting, so to speak. Sweden is accused abroad of being a "Saudi Arabia of feminism," where the Swedish laws on rape and sexual offenses are said to be influenced by radical feminism. This view is expressed rarely in Sweden. In all these versions, Assange is a victim, and the women are dismissed. None of it has passed muster. The British ruling is clear and should be followed. Julian Assange should be extradited to Sweden to be interrogated so that either the allegations can be dismissed or Assange prosecuted.
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Please show me on this doll where Julian Assange touched you Electric Monk Aug 2012 #1
You aren't interested in this Swedish editorial on Assange? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #2
Thanks for the Cha Aug 2012 #3
DU is what it is struggle4progress Aug 2012 #4
I think the importance of it pales in comparison to, say, this Electric Monk Aug 2012 #6
I urge everyone to read these links! MelungeonWoman Aug 2012 #13
Why does discussion have to be discouraged about anything? treestar Aug 2012 #26
Yeah, why is it a goal to shut down discussion? n/t Aerows Aug 2012 #29
The poster I was responding to has that goal: treestar Aug 2012 #37
I don't think there is any lack of importance in protecting women from rape and other sexual assault treestar Aug 2012 #27
I don't think there is any lack of importance Aerows Aug 2012 #30
They are of equal importance treestar Aug 2012 #35
I don't see anyone saying that Aerows Aug 2012 #41
If we can extradite Julian Assange, who else can we extradite? JDPriestly Aug 2012 #65
Do we know of other instances in which Britain extradited an Australian to a third JDPriestly Aug 2012 #64
There was no rape. ronnie624 Aug 2012 #7
No, there is an accuation of rape muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #18
I've seen no accusations of rape by the two Swedish women. ronnie624 Aug 2012 #28
The official record of the extradition hearing isn't good enough for you? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #31
No accusations by the two women and no charges have been filed. ronnie624 Aug 2012 #36
No, they are not synonyms (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #39
The term Charge may refer to: ronnie624 Aug 2012 #47
Exactly. muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #48
The two women have made no accusations of rape. ronnie624 Aug 2012 #49
What was the language in the extradition documents based on? JDPriestly Aug 2012 #66
No, they didn't testify in court, but European Arrest Warrants don't work like that muriel_volestrangler Aug 2012 #69
Are there any other instances in which Britain extradited a non-resident JDPriestly Aug 2012 #63
I do not know how you would know the actual facts in this case. Perhaps you have ESP? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #68
Here's the rub. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #72
I have no opinion about the merits of the Swedish allegation, and as I have already told you struggle4progress Aug 2012 #73
fråga Pippi Långstrump Quantess Aug 2012 #14
rofl Matariki Aug 2012 #32
Funny the first time - hack the second time. egduj Aug 2012 #44
ROFLMAO!!! Odin2005 Aug 2012 #50
Shouldn't you be asking the women that Assange sexually assaulted?...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #52
That's an op/ed page LadyHawkAZ Aug 2012 #5
Yes and this particular... sendero Aug 2012 #20
Another hit-piece... backscatter712 Aug 2012 #8
give it a rest. it seems like you're posting nothing cali Aug 2012 #9
Yeah but the subject line has Swedish in it Matariki Aug 2012 #33
No "seems" about it TroglodyteScholar Aug 2012 #46
No but DU is victim to your constant Cleita Aug 2012 #10
Ur-Feminist: "Free feminism has been kidnapped" reorg Aug 2012 #11
this xchrom Aug 2012 #22
The author of the article is paid to disseminate misinformation. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #12
struggle4progress, it seems that Quantess Aug 2012 #15
There are no rape charges. Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #16
Okay, sorry about the semantics. Quantess Aug 2012 #17
Sorry as well. Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #19
Yes, he loves posting negative swedish op-eds about Assange... in swedish Quantess Aug 2012 #24
Why is it unhealthy? treestar Aug 2012 #25
I think it is pretty clear Aerows Aug 2012 #67
Obsess much? hobbit709 Aug 2012 #21
Another Swedish opinion tama Aug 2012 #23
Alhem testified in the UK courts that there was no way Sweden would extradite Assange to the US struggle4progress Aug 2012 #38
Then why tama Aug 2012 #40
Sweden doesn't owe Ecuador any response at all: Sweden took out a warrant on the man struggle4progress Aug 2012 #55
As in tama Aug 2012 #58
As in: "We have a valid warrant against him, which we successfully defended in open court struggle4progress Aug 2012 #61
This is an opinion piece. So I'm guessing you also support the OP/Eds in favor of Ryan's plan? Mitt? riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #34
Oops, wrong swedish anti-Assange article Quantess Aug 2012 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author struggle4progress Aug 2012 #43
What is your motivation... TroglodyteScholar Aug 2012 #45
Remember this ridiculous anti-OWS propaganda headline from Rupert Murdoch's Zorra Aug 2012 #51
DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2012 #53
I think asking "don't you want to know what Sweden thinks" is silly or specious or at best djean111 Aug 2012 #54
Perhaps you want to know what the Wikileaks coordinator in Stockholm said? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #56
I don't care who said what, really - I want to know why Sweden will not give djean111 Aug 2012 #57
Do feel free to share a link to actual Australia cables that show that Australia struggle4progress Aug 2012 #59
In that case tama Aug 2012 #60
Here you merely provide Rawstory's summary of the Herald's summary of the cables: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #62
But you want everyone to agree with an opinion piece.....in Swedish..... djean111 Aug 2012 #70
What I want right now is for you to exhibit the cables, that (you claim) show Australia is convinced struggle4progress Aug 2012 #71
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