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In the discussion thread: Ecuador Grants Julian Assange Asylum; U.S. Seen as "Hidden Hand" Behind U.K. Threat to Raid Embassy [View all]

Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #92)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 07:45 PM

treestar (40,421 posts)

99. He needs to face up to it

If the world is so evil, no one can be a hero opposing it without facing up to it directly. Rather than hiding and whining about it.

You go at it directly if you really mean to oppose it.

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100 replies	Author	Time	Post
Ecuador Grants Julian Assange Asylum; U.S. Seen as "Hidden Hand" Behind U.K. Threat to Raid Embassy [View all]	marmar	Aug 2012	OP
Du rec. Nt	xchrom	Aug 2012	#1
Question: Assange has been, more or less, in UK custody	Robb	Aug 2012	#2
Don't confuse the conspiracy theorists...	SidDithers	Aug 2012	#3
"Don't confuse the conspiracy theorists"	marmar	Aug 2012	#5
Lol, especially since when facts are available you have to wonder why the CTs	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#61
The Bilderbergers are in on this	treestar	Aug 2012	#19
Except he didn't 'skip out'. He was always available to the Swedish Government for	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#56
Question:	Puglover	Aug 2012	#4
That's not an answer.	Robb	Aug 2012	#6
Ok I'll answer.	Puglover	Aug 2012	#7
Fair enough.	Robb	Aug 2012	#8
Thanks.	Puglover	Aug 2012	#9
IIRC, invading another country's embassy is an	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#10
I can only imagine the howls of outrage if Ecuadorian troops were surrounding	Puglover	Aug 2012	#11
Exactly!	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#12
Yeah, but you don't have an answer to my question either.	Robb	Aug 2012	#13
He was at a private home in the UK.	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#14
Raid? Are you kidding me?	Robb	Aug 2012	#16
Wait. You say the Brits are prepared to raid a sovereign Embassy to get Assange...	SidDithers	Aug 2012	#41
You have To Pay Attention, Sir: the Reference Was To A Possible Abduction By U.S. Agents	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#42
But the question remains, Sir...	SidDithers	Aug 2012	#43
What was Being Posited In the Exchange You Stepped Into, Sir, Was Abduction	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#45
Sweden's already been exposed as participating in illegal CIA rendition actions, the UK has not	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#15
A simple extradition request would be honored.	Robb	Aug 2012	#17
There is no cognizable legal basis for extraditing Assange to the US.	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#21
Wait, you think he has to set foot on US soil?	Robb	Aug 2012	#22
Let me try and explain this, Sparky,	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#24
What US law has Assange broken?	Robb	Aug 2012	#27
They're going to just make up a charge of "enemy combatant" or something else ridiculous	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#23
Cameron wouldn't survive a US extradition request? Absurd.	Robb	Aug 2012	#25
Oh FFS, not literally. Cameron's downfall would be assured however as soon as he agreed nt	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#26
No, actually, most UK voters are not too fussed over what happens to Assange one way or another.	Spider Jerusalem	Aug 2012	#39
Sorry to disagree, most data I've seen say the British public DOES care about Assange	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#49
I live in the UK, and I can tell you confidently that you're quite wrong.	Spider Jerusalem	Aug 2012	#52
Prove it. Your assertion doesn't match what I've read. nt	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#53
What you've read where?	Spider Jerusalem	Aug 2012	#57
I'm Irish	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#67
Online polls are self-selecting and ultimately meaningless	Spider Jerusalem	Aug 2012	#68
Its more than you got. And it supports my position. You asked, I answered. nt	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#70
A US extradition request would have to make public	HooptieWagon	Aug 2012	#28
Nonsense. We charge people with sensitive access all the time.	Robb	Aug 2012	#29
There's a few hundred people in Gitmo who'd like an answer to that question as well nt	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#30
Exactly! We could charge him and put him in Gitmo.	Robb	Aug 2012	#32
That You Know Of, Sir: There Are Such Things As Sealed Indictments	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#37
Then why not effect an arrest?	Robb	Aug 2012	#48
They May Not Feel They Have A Sufficiently Air-Tight Case Yet, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#62
Its going to be a sealed indictment. The grand jury is working on it as we speak nt	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#50
Right. The secret grand jury.	Robb	Aug 2012	#51
There is a grand jury	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#54
On what basis? The US has no charges filed against Assange, so on what basis	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#79
+1	leftstreet	Aug 2012	#47
In that case, Chen Guangcheng was spitting in the face of the system also when he	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#64
Biased conjecture = the worst kind of CT	whatchamacallit	Aug 2012	#94
Because they still have not been able to find a crime to attach to him.	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#58
Can't say for sure	tama	Aug 2012	#77
It does make sense	treestar	Aug 2012	#20
Your lack of facts is showing. Seriously.	Puglover	Aug 2012	#34
Usually it's the Julian fans who refer to the US and its propensity to	treestar	Aug 2012	#35
What did he do? There are no charges against him. You keep conveniently forgetting	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#80
Well he obviously did something to invoke the Swedish justice system	treestar	Aug 2012	#89
The Swedish Justice System has rendered two human beings for torture to	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#92
He needs to face up to it	treestar	Aug 2012	#99
This post was hidden by jury decision.	tama	Aug 2012	#81
This is paternalistic bullshit. The Swedes are riding the two women and TELLING them they were raped	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#82
I doubt there are many "Julian fans" here..	girl gone mad	Aug 2012	#83
Simply	tama	Aug 2012	#78
The Evil US has Mysterious Ways	treestar	Aug 2012	#18
Really....	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#31
I know all about that. What has it got to do with this?	treestar	Aug 2012	#36
One, he's not a US citizen.	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#38
A Little Trickier Than That, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#40
I assume that this is permissible because	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#44
So Long As None Of Them Intended Smuggling It Into the United States, Sir, No Violation Of U.S. Law	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#46
US considers it has "legal" right to take legal actions	tama	Aug 2012	#86
Well now you've knocked the floor out of the claim he "fears extradition" to the US	treestar	Aug 2012	#65
That doesn't mean that the CIA or US Military Intelligence	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#66
When did even Shrub do something like this?	treestar	Aug 2012	#69
Padilla had nothing to do with Iraq or Afghanistan. Awlaki either (he was droned without trial)	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#71
Padilla was still being accused of terrorism - a dirty bomb	treestar	Aug 2012	#90
Bitter laughter. The US no longer engages in extra-judicial, illegal actions??!!	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#95
You are unbelievable	treestar	Aug 2012	#96
We are a rogue state. Gitmo tells me that every day. So does Padilla, driven mad	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#97
Totally delusional	treestar	Aug 2012	#98
Hear that folks? We're "still" under the rule of law!	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#100
There was a bounty system in place	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#72
I'm starting to get ill. Even DUers are forgetting Bush's rendition, crimes, unlawful detentions at	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#73
Some people's ignorance of history	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#74
They can't be democrats. Not even knowing that Bush had plenty of extra-judicial	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#75
It's an unfortunate trend	Hydra	Aug 2012	#87
Its frightening Hydra. I'm deeply worried.	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#88
More reading, less posting.	girl gone mad	Aug 2012	#85
It means	tama	Aug 2012	#84
because hes a coward... plain and simple.	OneTenthofOnePercent	Aug 2012	#91
Gosh, your well-argued and impeccably considered logical arguments are quite persuasive!	backscatter712	Aug 2012	#93
Delete of dupe	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#33
Simple, but you would have to have followed the case to know.	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#55
K&R for safe passage.	midnight	Aug 2012	#59
Update on proposed Brit invasion of Ecuadorian embassy.	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#60
Indeed, Sir: In Latin America, It Would Become Awfully Difficult To Be An English Diplomat	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#63
Nothing to do with that insurance policy , Hah ?	orpupilofnature57	Aug 2012	#76

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