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sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
92. The Swedish Justice System has rendered two human beings for torture to
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:39 PM
Aug 2012

Egypt, among other not so commendable things. The Swedish Government which relied on Karl Rove to get itself elected, is no shining example of democracy and continues to disgrace itself every day it continues to involve itself in this outrageous persecution of an Editor and Publisher of a News Organization.

What he did everyone knows, he practiced real Journalism, one of the most serious crimes against the Corporate rulers of the world, as evidenced by the released documents by Anonymous which exposed their determination to destroy him, simply because he had the courage to publish inconvenient truths and facts. Certainly no one has denied that what he, along with the NYT, La Monde, Der Spiegel, The Guardian published was false information.

But hey, if you support Corporate rule, he sure is an enemy of the Corporate State, and no doubt every effort should be made to silence him. Democracies otoh, welcome the kind of transparency, as Latin America countries did when their dirty laundry was exposed by Wikileaks, practiced by real journalists.

Assange and Wikileaks have exposed more than the leaked documents from various countries when they started their organization to help Whistleblowers all over the world. They exposed who is for democracy and not just mouthing that support and who is not.

Du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #1
Question: Assange has been, more or less, in UK custody Robb Aug 2012 #2
Don't confuse the conspiracy theorists... SidDithers Aug 2012 #3
"Don't confuse the conspiracy theorists" marmar Aug 2012 #5
Lol, especially since when facts are available you have to wonder why the CTs sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #61
The Bilderbergers are in on this treestar Aug 2012 #19
Except he didn't 'skip out'. He was always available to the Swedish Government for sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #56
Question: Puglover Aug 2012 #4
That's not an answer. Robb Aug 2012 #6
Ok I'll answer. Puglover Aug 2012 #7
Fair enough. Robb Aug 2012 #8
Thanks. Puglover Aug 2012 #9
IIRC, invading another country's embassy is an hifiguy Aug 2012 #10
I can only imagine the howls of outrage if Ecuadorian troops were surrounding Puglover Aug 2012 #11
Exactly! hifiguy Aug 2012 #12
Yeah, but you don't have an answer to my question either. Robb Aug 2012 #13
He was at a private home in the UK. hifiguy Aug 2012 #14
Raid? Are you kidding me? Robb Aug 2012 #16
Wait. You say the Brits are prepared to raid a sovereign Embassy to get Assange... SidDithers Aug 2012 #41
You have To Pay Attention, Sir: the Reference Was To A Possible Abduction By U.S. Agents The Magistrate Aug 2012 #42
But the question remains, Sir... SidDithers Aug 2012 #43
What was Being Posited In the Exchange You Stepped Into, Sir, Was Abduction The Magistrate Aug 2012 #45
Sweden's already been exposed as participating in illegal CIA rendition actions, the UK has not riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #15
A simple extradition request would be honored. Robb Aug 2012 #17
There is no cognizable legal basis for extraditing Assange to the US. hifiguy Aug 2012 #21
Wait, you think he has to set foot on US soil? Robb Aug 2012 #22
Let me try and explain this, Sparky, hifiguy Aug 2012 #24
What US law has Assange broken? Robb Aug 2012 #27
They're going to just make up a charge of "enemy combatant" or something else ridiculous riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #23
Cameron wouldn't survive a US extradition request? Absurd. Robb Aug 2012 #25
Oh FFS, not literally. Cameron's downfall would be assured however as soon as he agreed nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #26
No, actually, most UK voters are not too fussed over what happens to Assange one way or another. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #39
Sorry to disagree, most data I've seen say the British public DOES care about Assange riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #49
I live in the UK, and I can tell you confidently that you're quite wrong. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #52
Prove it. Your assertion doesn't match what I've read. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #53
What you've read where? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #57
I'm Irish riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #67
Online polls are self-selecting and ultimately meaningless Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #68
Its more than you got. And it supports my position. You asked, I answered. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #70
A US extradition request would have to make public HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #28
Nonsense. We charge people with sensitive access all the time. Robb Aug 2012 #29
There's a few hundred people in Gitmo who'd like an answer to that question as well nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #30
Exactly! We could charge him and put him in Gitmo. Robb Aug 2012 #32
That You Know Of, Sir: There Are Such Things As Sealed Indictments The Magistrate Aug 2012 #37
Then why not effect an arrest? Robb Aug 2012 #48
They May Not Feel They Have A Sufficiently Air-Tight Case Yet, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2012 #62
Its going to be a sealed indictment. The grand jury is working on it as we speak nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #50
Right. The secret grand jury. Robb Aug 2012 #51
There is a grand jury riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #54
On what basis? The US has no charges filed against Assange, so on what basis sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #79
+1 leftstreet Aug 2012 #47
In that case, Chen Guangcheng was spitting in the face of the system also when he sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #64
Biased conjecture = the worst kind of CT whatchamacallit Aug 2012 #94
Because they still have not been able to find a crime to attach to him. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #58
Can't say for sure tama Aug 2012 #77
It does make sense treestar Aug 2012 #20
Your lack of facts is showing. Seriously. Puglover Aug 2012 #34
Usually it's the Julian fans who refer to the US and its propensity to treestar Aug 2012 #35
What did he do? There are no charges against him. You keep conveniently forgetting sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #80
Well he obviously did something to invoke the Swedish justice system treestar Aug 2012 #89
The Swedish Justice System has rendered two human beings for torture to sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #92
He needs to face up to it treestar Aug 2012 #99
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #81
This is paternalistic bullshit. The Swedes are riding the two women and TELLING them they were raped riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #82
I doubt there are many "Julian fans" here.. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #83
Simply tama Aug 2012 #78
The Evil US has Mysterious Ways treestar Aug 2012 #18
Really.... hifiguy Aug 2012 #31
I know all about that. What has it got to do with this? treestar Aug 2012 #36
One, he's not a US citizen. hifiguy Aug 2012 #38
A Little Trickier Than That, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2012 #40
I assume that this is permissible because hifiguy Aug 2012 #44
So Long As None Of Them Intended Smuggling It Into the United States, Sir, No Violation Of U.S. Law The Magistrate Aug 2012 #46
US considers it has "legal" right to take legal actions tama Aug 2012 #86
Well now you've knocked the floor out of the claim he "fears extradition" to the US treestar Aug 2012 #65
That doesn't mean that the CIA or US Military Intelligence hifiguy Aug 2012 #66
When did even Shrub do something like this? treestar Aug 2012 #69
Padilla had nothing to do with Iraq or Afghanistan. Awlaki either (he was droned without trial) riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #71
Padilla was still being accused of terrorism - a dirty bomb treestar Aug 2012 #90
Bitter laughter. The US no longer engages in extra-judicial, illegal actions??!! riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #95
You are unbelievable treestar Aug 2012 #96
We are a rogue state. Gitmo tells me that every day. So does Padilla, driven mad riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #97
Totally delusional treestar Aug 2012 #98
Hear that folks? We're "still" under the rule of law! riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #100
There was a bounty system in place hifiguy Aug 2012 #72
I'm starting to get ill. Even DUers are forgetting Bush's rendition, crimes, unlawful detentions at riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #73
Some people's ignorance of history hifiguy Aug 2012 #74
They can't be democrats. Not even knowing that Bush had plenty of extra-judicial riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #75
It's an unfortunate trend Hydra Aug 2012 #87
Its frightening Hydra. I'm deeply worried. riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #88
More reading, less posting. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #85
It means tama Aug 2012 #84
because hes a coward... plain and simple. OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #91
Gosh, your well-argued and impeccably considered logical arguments are quite persuasive! backscatter712 Aug 2012 #93
Delete of dupe hifiguy Aug 2012 #33
Simple, but you would have to have followed the case to know. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #55
K&R for safe passage. midnight Aug 2012 #59
Update on proposed Brit invasion of Ecuadorian embassy. hifiguy Aug 2012 #60
Indeed, Sir: In Latin America, It Would Become Awfully Difficult To Be An English Diplomat The Magistrate Aug 2012 #63
Nothing to do with that insurance policy , Hah ? orpupilofnature57 Aug 2012 #76
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