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In the discussion thread: Ex-Texas teacher guilty of having sex with 5 of her students [View all]

Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #73)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:02 PM

75. Difference between high school and post high school.

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High school is an important part of the community, and a rite of passage, where kids should be safe from adult sexual situations perpetrated by those in authority. High school years are crucial in terms of emotional development. I don't care if the kids are 16 or 18--they have not completed their education until they graduate, therefore the school's role--and community's role-- of protecting the student does not change until they graduate. These adults are in a position of trust--parents and students need to trust this institution and its employees to NOT harm the students, physically or emotionally. She couldn't wait until they were no longer in her class and under her authority as a teacher before going after them. She's a predator, and she's where she belongs now.

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113 replies	Author	Time	Post
Ex-Texas teacher guilty of having sex with 5 of her students [View all]	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	OP
I'm mystified by this charge	alcibiades_mystery	Aug 2012	#1
My exact thoughts	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#2
If you are wondering about colleges...	jberryhill	Aug 2012	#5
It's because she's female and sexually nasty	Warpy	Aug 2012	#103
Not a big deal IMO... and this thread needs pics (is she hot?)!	OneTenthofOnePercent	Aug 2012	#3
There's a photo of her at the link	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#10
She is not wholly unattractive.	Aristus	Aug 2012	#91
Sick. WTF is wrong with adults, that they cannot seem to be able to control themselves or deny	TwilightGardener	Aug 2012	#4
4 of the students testified and said they did not consider themselves victims.	Travis_0004	Aug 2012	#7
They're also teenage boys in high school, and perhaps do not realize how they were taken	TwilightGardener	Aug 2012	#9
They are adults, not teenaged boys	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#14
It's criminal because it's the law in Texas. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse, either.	TwilightGardener	Aug 2012	#28
+1	lunasun	Aug 2012	#83
they are all 18 and were 18 at the time. they are adults in the eyes of the law and	cali	Aug 2012	#16
She used her position to prey on them. It is against the law in Texas.	TwilightGardener	Aug 2012	#21
It was consensual sex	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#23
The relationship between a high schooler and a teacher is not really consensual, in the eyes of	TwilightGardener	Aug 2012	#31
that's ridiculous. it varies from state to state- or do you actually think	cali	Aug 2012	#34
When a kid has not completed his high school education (his sole reason for contact	TwilightGardener	Aug 2012	#82
In the eyes of Texas law. In plenty of jurisdictions, this would not be illegal	muriel_volestrangler	Aug 2012	#41
thanks for posting that.	cali	Aug 2012	#56
Whoopee doo. I hope she has plenty of time to sit and think about what she did...	TwilightGardener	Aug 2012	#70
I think we can all agree that this is what the law states	alcibiades_mystery	Aug 2012	#44
I don't see it as weird. I think this sort of behavior should be subject	TwilightGardener	Aug 2012	#71
Why?	alcibiades_mystery	Aug 2012	#73
Difference between high school and post high school.	TwilightGardener	Aug 2012	#75
In the eyes of the Texas law, that's irrelevant.	Kaleva	Aug 2012	#36
more ridiculous so criticizing a law is pointless. wow. got it.	cali	Aug 2012	#42
I don't feel sorry for her. She knew what the law was.	Kaleva	Aug 2012	#50
what the hey does feeling sorry for her have to do with it?	cali	Aug 2012	#52
You have your opinion and I have mine.	Kaleva	Aug 2012	#61
you still fail to grasp that this isn't all about her. really, it's not.	cali	Aug 2012	#68
Of course this is about her. She's the topic of discussion.	Kaleva	Aug 2012	#69
lol. yeah, my thread entitled "should sex between consenting adults be illegal"	cali	Aug 2012	#72
I bet many 14 year olds would not consider themselves victims either	MattBaggins	Aug 2012	#32
Thank you. n/t	whathehell	Aug 2012	#109
A horny 18-year-old boy would screw a knot in a tree.	aquart	Aug 2012	#113
Slippery slope there	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#13
Prisoners and guards? Divorce lawyers and clients? What about those?	kelly1mm	Aug 2012	#84
I have a big problem with someone going to jail for consensual sex with other adults	villager	Aug 2012	#76
This is the first I've heard about the husband being involved too.	Starry Messenger	Aug 2012	#6
Even some mansluaghter and attempted murder sentences aren't that long	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#15
I think she showed an appalling lack of judgement.	Starry Messenger	Aug 2012	#35
She got 5 years.	Kaleva	Aug 2012	#39
Still appalling.	Starry Messenger	Aug 2012	#48
Her husband was not involved in sex with the students.	LisaL	Aug 2012	#49
My reply was before the edit to the OP.	Starry Messenger	Aug 2012	#53
If "sex" is in the headline, you know it's going to be a guilty verdict.	russspeakeasy	Aug 2012	#8
Her husband wasn't involved	tammywammy	Aug 2012	#11
I can see why these laws exist.	aikoaiko	Aug 2012	#12
Why should a supervisor be fired for dating an employee?	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#17
I was asking for your rationale for supporting her being fired,	aikoaiko	Aug 2012	#26
I already answered that	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#27
It says right in the original OP he/she thinks she should be fired...	madmom	Aug 2012	#19
Thanks	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#25
It wasn't clear in your OP that you did think this act was an abuse of authority.	aikoaiko	Aug 2012	#33
It was perfectly clear in my OP	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#55
The phrase "abuse of authority" does not appear in your OP.	aikoaiko	Aug 2012	#63
Perhaps I wasn't clear. I was asking the OP for his/her rationale for supporting her being fired.	aikoaiko	Aug 2012	#29
It is possible	gollygee	Aug 2012	#43
I agree that unethical /= unlawful. I'm simply asking for the OPs rationale	aikoaiko	Aug 2012	#51
I guess this is an agree to disagree situation	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#18
At once? n/t	RZM	Aug 2012	#20
Texas executes people who in all likelihood are innocent, so I mean,	coalition_unwilling	Aug 2012	#22
I have really bifurcated feelings about this	etherealtruth	Aug 2012	#24
I don't think anyone on this thread thinks this was okay	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#30
not necessarily in this thread ...	etherealtruth	Aug 2012	#40
Thanks for the info!	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#57
I guess one of the points in this jack ass' defense is that the age of consent in ...	etherealtruth	Aug 2012	#66
Actually the legal age of consent in Texas is 17	Horse with no Name	Aug 2012	#100
18-year-olds are adults	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#112
It is criminal. There is a penal code that says so.	MattBaggins	Aug 2012	#38
Yes, you are correct, in Michigan it is	etherealtruth	Aug 2012	#46
Other consensual sex was also illegal in Texas until a few years ago	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#58
This, however, is a great law	MattBaggins	Aug 2012	#64
Can't she meet men after work?	KurtNYC	Aug 2012	#37
Good point. There are other fish in the sea	treestar	Aug 2012	#54
She had access to horny immature teenage boys. Real grown men aren't so easily	TwilightGardener	Aug 2012	#77
She's a real hands on kind of teacher.	morningfog	Aug 2012	#93
As long as the law is the way it is, the jury had no choice but to convict her.	LisaL	Aug 2012	#45
Her husband didn't have sex with the students.	LisaL	Aug 2012	#47
i am aware of that	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#60
Stupid Law. Regardless of their relationship, adults should be free to consentually fuck whomever.	OneTenthofOnePercent	Aug 2012	#59
So a shrink and a patient-all good in your book?	LisaL	Aug 2012	#62
in my book, it's not good, but it shouldn't be criminalized	cali	Aug 2012	#67
Is that illegal now?	alcibiades_mystery	Aug 2012	#74
morally acceptable and legally criminal are two VERY different things.	OneTenthofOnePercent	Aug 2012	#85
God this is hot.	inner lite	Aug 2012	#65
At age 18 they are old enough to die for their country. Why are they not old enough to have sex?	appleannie1	Aug 2012	#78
This isn't having sex with peers, freely entered into and on equal footing.	TwilightGardener	Aug 2012	#80
Wonder if JFK ever slept with any 18yr olds...	OneTenthofOnePercent	Aug 2012	#86
Um...I have no idea what your post means.	TwilightGardener	Aug 2012	#98
lol.	cali	Aug 2012	#88
I guess I"m missing the prudery and bizarreness of thinking that a gang bang	TwilightGardener	Aug 2012	#97
Workplaces, schools, and other situations in which one partner may have more power over another	redqueen	Aug 2012	#79
Under 18? Send her away. But they are adults.	NYC Liberal	Aug 2012	#81
I agree completely.	morningfog	Aug 2012	#94
Yup	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#106
I have to wonder...	99Forever	Aug 2012	#87
If they were 18, I'd feel precisely the same. fire the teacher. ban him from the profession.	cali	Aug 2012	#89
Like the Air Force training sergeants at Lackland AFB	JustABozoOnThisBus	Aug 2012	#90
Perhaps...	99Forever	Aug 2012	#99
As I said in my OP, tehy would be exactly the same	obamanut2012	Aug 2012	#107
And I agree.	99Forever	Aug 2012	#108
Prison for doing what consenting adults do? How very..Victorian.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Aug 2012	#92
I dont' think she should face criminal charges. They were consenting adults.	morningfog	Aug 2012	#95
Not only she was charged, she was already convicted.	LisaL	Aug 2012	#96
It's a violation of public trust.	pipoman	Aug 2012	#105
I don't agree with this	PD Turk	Aug 2012	#101
She's female	LadyHawkAZ	Aug 2012	#102
Not tinkering with her students' bodies is one of the requirements of the profession she chose.	WillowTree	Aug 2012	#104
We have ourselves a winnah!!	renie408	Aug 2012	#110
No sympathy!	Are_grits_groceries	Aug 2012	#111

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