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In the discussion thread: Would our nation be substantially different if Jimmy Carter had been re-elected? [View all]

Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #59)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:14 AM

65. The next question that one would have to assume, is what would have happened if

Ford had become president in 76. We really have no idea what type of president Ford would have been if he had actually been elected.

Would Ford have let the Shah of Iran to come to the US and would there have been an Iran Hostage "crisis". Would Ted Koppel still be an "Ace Reporter" in North Dakota? There may have been no oil embargo in 79, also.

Of course in the 78 or 79 Ford could have fallen down the stairs and been incapacitated, leading Nelson Rockefeller to become President. Nelson, being able to run, brings the Rockefeller dynasty to the pinacle and serves eight distinguished years as President.

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Would our nation be substantially different if Jimmy Carter had been re-elected? [View all]	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	OP
and Gore....	DonRedwood	Aug 2012	#1
Possibly, though, had Carter been re-elected the Bush regime might never have taken hold. Or the	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#3
We would have had clean energy	yellerpup	Aug 2012	#2
I'd like to think so, too. :^) (Assuming Progressive Dems also landed the Hill and the SCOTUS.)	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#4
I laughed at the idea that ANYONE would vote	yellerpup	Aug 2012	#8
and no wars.	broiles	Aug 2012	#5
And, no wars.	yellerpup	Aug 2012	#9
How great would that have been?	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#11
he probably would have had a very tough second term...	tk2kewl	Aug 2012	#6
Possibly, especially if they still took over the news media.	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#12
No, he would have been impeached or	DoBotherMe	Aug 2012	#7
Impeached for what, though? He seemed to keep his nose pretty clean from what I can tell.	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#10
They would make-up something or create a scenario and then attack	siligut	Aug 2012	#13
That's what they do. No doubt about it.	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#50
That's right.	DoBotherMe	Aug 2012	#14
That seems more likely.	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#16
The GOP proved you can impeach someone over a blowjob	Major Nikon	Aug 2012	#35
Both good points.	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#39
If Carter had been re-elected, we'd probably have a renewable energy policy in place.	HopeHoops	Aug 2012	#15
Yep, and better public transportation.	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#17
Better? OH! You mean one that actually EXISTS!	HopeHoops	Aug 2012	#18
Yeah, that!	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#19
Ever been to Budapest? That's the main form of transportation.	HopeHoops	Aug 2012	#23
A lot of places are light years ahead of us on transportation. My grandfather said there was a time	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#26
Um, yep. We're 100 years behind.	HopeHoops	Aug 2012	#28
Yes, 30+ years of serious renewable R&D would have mattered.	moondust	Aug 2012	#25
Yes Carter had a plan to make the US energy independent	csziggy	Aug 2012	#82
Yes but I don't want to explain.	MrSlayer	Aug 2012	#20
I agree n/t	prairierose	Aug 2012	#29
Of course, it would be better! No question! We would have had a real start to another	CTyankee	Aug 2012	#21
Do you think if Carter had been re-elected, would Raygun have still run and	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#30
Reagan used his movie career training to maximum advantage and projected what	CTyankee	Aug 2012	#36
Yeah, hard not to get depressed over that. And I think Raygun was the	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#37
I guess I should have realized back when Reagan won over Carter that the U.S. was on its	CTyankee	Aug 2012	#38
The PC was created around the time of the Carter Presidency, along with Carter's energy policies	twins.fan	Aug 2012	#22
Oh, yes. Not saying we'd have cold fusion, but we would surely be in a much better place with	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#40
Oh hell yeah!!!!!	twins.fan	Aug 2012	#41
Raygun promised guns to Iran IF it kept the hostages instead of negotiating with Carter	Omaha Steve	Aug 2012	#24
Yes, absolutely! That was the exact moment when it all started to fall apart.	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#48
Yup	Freddie	Aug 2012	#52
Do you figure the pendulum will swing back in our lifetimes?	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#53
No. The Repukes will never be civil again....	lastlib	Aug 2012	#76
Sometimes I wonder	GaYellowDawg	Aug 2012	#81
Looking back, it really does seem to have been a very important election.	limpyhobbler	Aug 2012	#27
Absolutely.	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#49
Just a tad.	Drunken Irishman	Aug 2012	#74
Yes, without a doubt.	Uncle Joe	Aug 2012	#31
I think sometimes it's worth considering the not taken, if we can take inspiration from it. This	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#32
I agree, GreenPartyVoter but I believe sober deliberation on prior choices and events	Uncle Joe	Aug 2012	#33
Agreed. Learn from history. Peace to you, also!	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#34
oh God YES	edhopper	Aug 2012	#42
If we could have kept Reagan and the ** family out of power, absolutely.	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#44
yes, but if Ford had won reelection in 1976 things would be substantially different too	Douglas Carpenter	Aug 2012	#43
And by extension may have spared us the Bushies as well.	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#46
Raygun and his mob were uber bad	upi402	Aug 2012	#45
And a lot of his mob still have their hands in things.	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#47
Energy indepenence & solar would have had 8 yrs	Historic NY	Aug 2012	#51
Well, we might still have labor unions. nt	Deep13	Aug 2012	#54
Yes but I don't want to explain...	Kalidurga	Aug 2012	#55
Most certainly. But the question is too easy...	Drunken Irishman	Aug 2012	#56
Winning in 76 was the ultimate booby prize. Remember how close Reagan came to winning the GOP	Douglas Carpenter	Aug 2012	#57
Yup. That right there would have set trickle-down economics back a generation...	Drunken Irishman	Aug 2012	#60
That's possible. But more likely, Reagan would have attacked Iran and easily won the war, leading	madinmaryland	Aug 2012	#69
Agreed. Winning a war nearly got Poppa Bush a second term.	Drunken Irishman	Aug 2012	#70
Well, that makes sense too. There are still two problems, though under your scenario and mine which	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#58
Hard to say...	Drunken Irishman	Aug 2012	#59
Yeah. Any timeline without a Raygun and ** presidency sounds great to me!	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#61
Better yet...imagine Humphrey beats Nixon in '68...	Drunken Irishman	Aug 2012	#64
Even better. I might have grown up without my Dad yelling at the evening news!	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#79
The next question that one would have to assume, is what would have happened if	madinmaryland	Aug 2012	#65
And in his farewell address to America, Rockefeller ends it by looking straight into the camera...	Drunken Irishman	Aug 2012	#66
Heh! I had forgotten that!! As an aside, if JFK had not been assasinated, would Nixon have run	madinmaryland	Aug 2012	#67
The horror!	Drunken Irishman	Aug 2012	#68
What probably would have happened under a President Goldwater..	madinmaryland	Aug 2012	#71
I think Kennedy would've won in '64...	Drunken Irishman	Aug 2012	#73
It might have slightly changed things, but considering the state of the economy, the only	madinmaryland	Aug 2012	#62
It's amazing all the variables that come into play trying to figure this one out. I hadn't even	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#63
Alternative histories always require a given set of assumptions	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#72
Would our nation be different if Reagan was a transgendered Venusian?	longship	Aug 2012	#75
They can be fun, but in this case they can also be depressing. Ah, what if??	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#91
Yes.	luv_mykatz	Aug 2012	#77
Good question; Carter is far more relevant than the MSM would have people think	BeyondGeography	Aug 2012	#78
Yes, I think you are absolutely right.	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#90
Perhaps not	quaker bill	Aug 2012	#80
Hmmm. I hadn't considered that.	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#83
That was Volker's job and he was already pursuing that strategy under Carter, who appointed him	BeyondGeography	Aug 2012	#84
But Reagan had him push it to the hilt to collaspe the economy	quaker bill	Aug 2012	#86
definitely different but hard to see exactly in which direction	KurtNYC	Aug 2012	#85
Hadn't even thought of the metric system being in place!	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#89
The other way round.	kenny blankenship	Aug 2012	#87
Sadly, this may be the truest point made. :^(	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#88
Yes. Secret Government wouldn't be running things.	Octafish	Aug 2012	#92
No, one would hope not!	GreenPartyVoter	Aug 2012	#93

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