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In the discussion thread: Ecuador Grants Julian Assange Asylum; U.S. Seen as "Hidden Hand" Behind U.K. Threat to Raid Embassy [View all]

Response to Puglover (Reply #34)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:53 AM

treestar (40,421 posts)

35. Usually it's the Julian fans who refer to the US and its propensity to

create "puppet government" in other countries. Your post is just out of thin air. It's the same people who are so sure the US has nothing better to do than persecute poor Julian (who leaked classified documents of ours) who insist on that. Surely they would be willing to accuse the US of shenanigans in Ecuador too?

Why are they granting a clearly frivolous asylum case? Julian is not "persecuted" by facing charges anyone else would face had they done what he did. Again, does leaking US documents make him an angel who violates no other criminal laws?

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100 replies	Author	Time	Post
Ecuador Grants Julian Assange Asylum; U.S. Seen as "Hidden Hand" Behind U.K. Threat to Raid Embassy [View all]	marmar	Aug 2012	OP
Du rec. Nt	xchrom	Aug 2012	#1
Question: Assange has been, more or less, in UK custody	Robb	Aug 2012	#2
Don't confuse the conspiracy theorists...	SidDithers	Aug 2012	#3
"Don't confuse the conspiracy theorists"	marmar	Aug 2012	#5
Lol, especially since when facts are available you have to wonder why the CTs	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#61
The Bilderbergers are in on this	treestar	Aug 2012	#19
Except he didn't 'skip out'. He was always available to the Swedish Government for	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#56
Question:	Puglover	Aug 2012	#4
That's not an answer.	Robb	Aug 2012	#6
Ok I'll answer.	Puglover	Aug 2012	#7
Fair enough.	Robb	Aug 2012	#8
Thanks.	Puglover	Aug 2012	#9
IIRC, invading another country's embassy is an	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#10
I can only imagine the howls of outrage if Ecuadorian troops were surrounding	Puglover	Aug 2012	#11
Exactly!	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#12
Yeah, but you don't have an answer to my question either.	Robb	Aug 2012	#13
He was at a private home in the UK.	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#14
Raid? Are you kidding me?	Robb	Aug 2012	#16
Wait. You say the Brits are prepared to raid a sovereign Embassy to get Assange...	SidDithers	Aug 2012	#41
You have To Pay Attention, Sir: the Reference Was To A Possible Abduction By U.S. Agents	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#42
But the question remains, Sir...	SidDithers	Aug 2012	#43
What was Being Posited In the Exchange You Stepped Into, Sir, Was Abduction	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#45
Sweden's already been exposed as participating in illegal CIA rendition actions, the UK has not	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#15
A simple extradition request would be honored.	Robb	Aug 2012	#17
There is no cognizable legal basis for extraditing Assange to the US.	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#21
Wait, you think he has to set foot on US soil?	Robb	Aug 2012	#22
Let me try and explain this, Sparky,	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#24
What US law has Assange broken?	Robb	Aug 2012	#27
They're going to just make up a charge of "enemy combatant" or something else ridiculous	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#23
Cameron wouldn't survive a US extradition request? Absurd.	Robb	Aug 2012	#25
Oh FFS, not literally. Cameron's downfall would be assured however as soon as he agreed nt	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#26
No, actually, most UK voters are not too fussed over what happens to Assange one way or another.	Spider Jerusalem	Aug 2012	#39
Sorry to disagree, most data I've seen say the British public DOES care about Assange	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#49
I live in the UK, and I can tell you confidently that you're quite wrong.	Spider Jerusalem	Aug 2012	#52
Prove it. Your assertion doesn't match what I've read. nt	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#53
What you've read where?	Spider Jerusalem	Aug 2012	#57
I'm Irish	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#67
Online polls are self-selecting and ultimately meaningless	Spider Jerusalem	Aug 2012	#68
Its more than you got. And it supports my position. You asked, I answered. nt	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#70
A US extradition request would have to make public	HooptieWagon	Aug 2012	#28
Nonsense. We charge people with sensitive access all the time.	Robb	Aug 2012	#29
There's a few hundred people in Gitmo who'd like an answer to that question as well nt	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#30
Exactly! We could charge him and put him in Gitmo.	Robb	Aug 2012	#32
That You Know Of, Sir: There Are Such Things As Sealed Indictments	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#37
Then why not effect an arrest?	Robb	Aug 2012	#48
They May Not Feel They Have A Sufficiently Air-Tight Case Yet, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#62
Its going to be a sealed indictment. The grand jury is working on it as we speak nt	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#50
Right. The secret grand jury.	Robb	Aug 2012	#51
There is a grand jury	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#54
On what basis? The US has no charges filed against Assange, so on what basis	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#79
+1	leftstreet	Aug 2012	#47
In that case, Chen Guangcheng was spitting in the face of the system also when he	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#64
Biased conjecture = the worst kind of CT	whatchamacallit	Aug 2012	#94
Because they still have not been able to find a crime to attach to him.	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#58
Can't say for sure	tama	Aug 2012	#77
It does make sense	treestar	Aug 2012	#20
Your lack of facts is showing. Seriously.	Puglover	Aug 2012	#34
Usually it's the Julian fans who refer to the US and its propensity to	treestar	Aug 2012	#35
What did he do? There are no charges against him. You keep conveniently forgetting	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#80
Well he obviously did something to invoke the Swedish justice system	treestar	Aug 2012	#89
The Swedish Justice System has rendered two human beings for torture to	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#92
He needs to face up to it	treestar	Aug 2012	#99
This post was hidden by jury decision.	tama	Aug 2012	#81
This is paternalistic bullshit. The Swedes are riding the two women and TELLING them they were raped	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#82
I doubt there are many "Julian fans" here..	girl gone mad	Aug 2012	#83
Simply	tama	Aug 2012	#78
The Evil US has Mysterious Ways	treestar	Aug 2012	#18
Really....	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#31
I know all about that. What has it got to do with this?	treestar	Aug 2012	#36
One, he's not a US citizen.	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#38
A Little Trickier Than That, Sir	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#40
I assume that this is permissible because	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#44
So Long As None Of Them Intended Smuggling It Into the United States, Sir, No Violation Of U.S. Law	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#46
US considers it has "legal" right to take legal actions	tama	Aug 2012	#86
Well now you've knocked the floor out of the claim he "fears extradition" to the US	treestar	Aug 2012	#65
That doesn't mean that the CIA or US Military Intelligence	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#66
When did even Shrub do something like this?	treestar	Aug 2012	#69
Padilla had nothing to do with Iraq or Afghanistan. Awlaki either (he was droned without trial)	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#71
Padilla was still being accused of terrorism - a dirty bomb	treestar	Aug 2012	#90
Bitter laughter. The US no longer engages in extra-judicial, illegal actions??!!	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#95
You are unbelievable	treestar	Aug 2012	#96
We are a rogue state. Gitmo tells me that every day. So does Padilla, driven mad	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#97
Totally delusional	treestar	Aug 2012	#98
Hear that folks? We're "still" under the rule of law!	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#100
There was a bounty system in place	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#72
I'm starting to get ill. Even DUers are forgetting Bush's rendition, crimes, unlawful detentions at	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#73
Some people's ignorance of history	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#74
They can't be democrats. Not even knowing that Bush had plenty of extra-judicial	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#75
It's an unfortunate trend	Hydra	Aug 2012	#87
Its frightening Hydra. I'm deeply worried.	riderinthestorm	Aug 2012	#88
More reading, less posting.	girl gone mad	Aug 2012	#85
It means	tama	Aug 2012	#84
because hes a coward... plain and simple.	OneTenthofOnePercent	Aug 2012	#91
Gosh, your well-argued and impeccably considered logical arguments are quite persuasive!	backscatter712	Aug 2012	#93
Delete of dupe	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#33
Simple, but you would have to have followed the case to know.	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#55
K&R for safe passage.	midnight	Aug 2012	#59
Update on proposed Brit invasion of Ecuadorian embassy.	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#60
Indeed, Sir: In Latin America, It Would Become Awfully Difficult To Be An English Diplomat	The Magistrate	Aug 2012	#63
Nothing to do with that insurance policy , Hah ?	orpupilofnature57	Aug 2012	#76

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