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emulatorloo

(43,982 posts)
166. Nice attempt to change the subject from your bullshit OP
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:57 AM
Aug 2012

Again every tactic from the Fox News Playbook

- strawmen democrats
- ignores actual Republican Policies
- yet projects Republican policies onto the Strawmen Democrats.

This must be your new role model, because the two of you sound so alike and employ similar rhetorical strategies:

Priebus: Obama Is ‘Stealing’ From Seniors And Has ‘Blood On His Hands’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021116751

They are not Democrats. kentuck Aug 2012 #1
Seconded. Jackpine Radical Aug 2012 #3
Thirded. "They all do it" is the GOP's second favorite slogan. McCamy Taylor Aug 2012 #220
Fourthed. I wonder how many of them were Reagan Democrats, or former Moderate Republicans? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #245
Fifthed. Try saying that three times quickly. hay rick Aug 2012 #271
For sure! Lydia Leftcoast Aug 2012 #18
Thus, I'm pointing out, this includes Bill Clinton... MrMickeysMom Aug 2012 #32
Nobody answered my question from earlier... Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2012 #60
Funny, wasn't it? MrMickeysMom Aug 2012 #61
Please see #88, below. In 1993, Bill Clinton reduced Social Security benefits by increasing the AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #91
Yes. Thanks to Clinton, Social Security is means-tested in that those who receive. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #104
Reagan started that. Clinton increased it. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #113
Like I said... THUS, this includes the big dawg... MrMickeysMom Aug 2012 #184
That's the third way Democrats that Manny talks about a lot. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #223
did you see this? HiPointDem Aug 2012 #226
Okay, I see what he was saying MrMickeysMom Aug 2012 #320
I'll point a finger at him: He's a Third Way Democrat and, if I'm not mistaken, whathehell Aug 2012 #303
Clinton snookered us Plucketeer Aug 2012 #65
Lots of them snookered us... MrMickeysMom Aug 2012 #67
Corporate tentacles run deep. woo me with science Aug 2012 #43
Republicans want to cut the roots out from the TREE of LIBERTY. CarmanK Aug 2012 #189
Agreed, any objective observer would have to agree with you /nt Dragonfli Aug 2012 #56
Exactly, MNBrewer Aug 2012 #89
Do you include Obama in this assesment? lark Aug 2012 #181
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Aug 2012 #105
+2,000,000,000 FTTW Vincardog Aug 2012 #227
+1 HiPointDem Aug 2012 #112
No real Democrat would support such extreme positions. Scuba Aug 2012 #118
Umm, they're Democrats, all right. They, like our country, have rushed to the right. SusanaMontana41 Aug 2012 #214
My sentiments exactly! liberal N proud Aug 2012 #256
Are you opposed to cutting fraud? boppers Aug 2012 #2
No MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #9
The BIGGEST fraud to Medicare is coming from the private sector. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #68
But if you attack that fraud, you are "cutting medicare". eom boppers Aug 2012 #119
the proposed cuts are not primarily based on "cutting fraud" Ken Burch Aug 2012 #127
The best way to get rid of fraud from Medicare is to get rid of the 'fraudsters' altogether. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #262
Because it's not prosecuted? boppers Aug 2012 #300
What is "cutting fraud" salib Aug 2012 #82
Less fraud = less money = cut. boppers Aug 2012 #121
There's virtually no fraud on the part of medicare patients Ken Burch Aug 2012 #126
The point of "cutting fraud" shouldn't be to spend less on Medicare Ken Burch Aug 2012 #128
Give me a break! Curmudgeoness Aug 2012 #160
If that was all that *both* parties are considering there would not be a problem newthinking Aug 2012 #199
You can't possibly be this stupid. jeff47 Aug 2012 #261
Where is the Fraud? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #263
why do you hate America? seanpencil Aug 2012 #95
The colors bother me. boppers Aug 2012 #120
I agree with you on nothing, woo me with science Aug 2012 #156
Of course not. But that isn't what this is about Ken Burch Aug 2012 #102
So, if you're fine with medicare fraud, tax fraud, and other fraud... boppers Aug 2012 #122
medicare fraud on the part of patients is a trivially small problem Ken Burch Aug 2012 #125
There is no Medicare Fraud. Patients are not committing Fraud, Medicare is not committing sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #264
Get a 'treatment". Doctor gets paid $1000 for it. boppers Aug 2012 #299
I've been ProSense Aug 2012 #4
I think the original post is not amount Dems supporting the Ryan budget, but about supporting a limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #21
Yes, you know, the third way site its'self perhaps? Dragonfli Aug 2012 #23
So ProSense Aug 2012 #34
They have been pushing that meme ever since, and are still today, it is the PLAN Dragonfli Aug 2012 #48
July 2012 3 Way says "entitlements" such as SS are squeezing investments and need "reform" jtuck004 Aug 2012 #108
Oh, and ProSense Aug 2012 #36
It is not bullshit, else you could refute it, lame man love is what it is.... Dragonfli Aug 2012 #42
Actually, ProSense Aug 2012 #45
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #49
Yup... SidDithers Aug 2012 #63
This is fun for you? girl gone mad Aug 2012 #98
Actually, JDPriestly Aug 2012 #107
Call it ProSense Aug 2012 #152
actually it's always more fun reading descriptions of rhetoric/behavior stupidicus Aug 2012 #269
"lame man love"?... SidDithers Aug 2012 #64
I know, right? StrictlyRockers Aug 2012 #77
Excellent post. Thank you. woo me with science Aug 2012 #46
Erskine Bowles and Timothy Geithner are two good examples of people who JDPriestly Aug 2012 #106
Can you ProSense Aug 2012 #153
None other than Ezra Klein in the Washington Post. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #222
Third Way = DLC = Not Democrats cantbeserious Aug 2012 #5
That is the simple math of it, yes. But we are supposed to applaud this Republican ideology because Dragonfli Aug 2012 #33
Personally, I Believe The DLC and DLC Members To Be Despicable Sell Outs cantbeserious Aug 2012 #35
So Obama called Romney and got him to pick Ryan, so that when Obama wins, Obama can carry JoePhilly Aug 2012 #6
Yes, that's what I said MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #16
I notice you provided no link to who these 3rd way people were who were thrilled Romney JoePhilly Aug 2012 #17
I never claimed people were thrilled MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #20
You say "they're defending cuts again" ... which THEY Manny? JoePhilly Aug 2012 #22
Sorry, I'm not going to call out DUers. MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #26
That is the best you could come up with? Fox News does better. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #29
Are *you* against any cuts to Social Security? nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #31
** Crickets ** MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #47
Nice attempt to change the subject from your bullshit OP emulatorloo Aug 2012 #166
So typical: a personal attack rather than arguing the facts MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #172
So typical - projection, distraction and misdirection emulatorloo Aug 2012 #180
What, specifically, have I misrepresented? nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #190
You are desperately trying to distract from Ryan and project his budget on to Democrats emulatorloo Aug 2012 #209
And again, a fact-free post with zero examples MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #218
Review your OP. Create Strawman Democrat. Project Ryan Plan onto Strawman Democrat emulatorloo Aug 2012 #244
So how about you? Jakes Progress Aug 2012 #260
You prefer ignorance perhaps, but a quick perusal of the third way site will prove Manny correct Dragonfli Aug 2012 #27
So why not name the people? JoePhilly Aug 2012 #30
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #40
Two of them are named Erskine Bowles and Timothy Geithner JDPriestly Aug 2012 #110
Wow, doesn't twisting like that hurt your back? n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #130
Because third way blue dogs are not Democrats. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #7
Blue Dogs would be bad enough MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #12
I don't think using homophobic slurs are FDR style Democratic values. Son of Gob Aug 2012 #70
Homophobic? MrSlayer Aug 2012 #73
You don't think calling someone a cocksucker is homophobic? Son of Gob Aug 2012 #79
In his defense, I think many use that term without really thinking what it means. sweetloukillbot Aug 2012 #84
Seems like common sense to me Son of Gob Aug 2012 #85
No. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #92
Why do we use "fuck you" as an insult? whathehell Aug 2012 #301
Whatever. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #304
"Whatever"...Yeah, that about sums up the amount of consideration anyone but men, gay or straight whathehell Aug 2012 #305
Alright. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #306
Thanks for ALL your concern, lol. whathehell Aug 2012 #307
Wow. Overreact much? MrSlayer Aug 2012 #321
Wow. Do you? whathehell Aug 2012 #323
Likewise. MrSlayer Aug 2012 #325
I will! whathehell Aug 2012 #326
Oh, and based on your own numbers, we should cut medicare by 5-9%. boppers Aug 2012 #8
No, we should cut the cost of health care MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #10
If you cut the cost, you are cutting Medicare funding. boppers Aug 2012 #13
No, that is inaccurate. Cutting costs without cutting funding is a way to get more benefit from Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #134
Just the opposite, if we followed other countries direction and expanded Medicare to all suffragette Aug 2012 #193
Bingo. laundry_queen Aug 2012 #294
Yes, the solution is contained within the examples of the systems and results suffragette Aug 2012 #327
Watch what you say, Manny. Before long you'll be accused of demanding Democrats march in lock-step! Zalatix Aug 2012 #11
Ask Manny to name the Dems who used the Ryan selection to call for cuts on SS today. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #25
Ask Joe where Manny said that MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #28
Thanks to Romney's Hail Mary pick for his ticket, again we're seeing the Third Way types out in forc spanone Aug 2012 #37
Are you aware that "correlation does not prove causality"? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #39
You said this ... did you not read your own OP???? JoePhilly Aug 2012 #41
i tried spanone Aug 2012 #44
Seems pretty clear to me...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #58
rec SammyWinstonJack Aug 2012 #14
who are they? spanone Aug 2012 #15
Now would be a good time for reporters to ask all candidates abelenkpe Aug 2012 #19
What reporters? We used to have reporters. Now we have narcissistic stenographers who want their AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #94
You are right of course abelenkpe Aug 2012 #164
Narcissistic stenographers who want their participation to be more important than objective facts. laundry_queen Aug 2012 #295
Wow...the nerve still twinges Hydra Aug 2012 #24
Yup ProSense Aug 2012 #38
Hey Pro: Are *you* against any cuts to Social Security payments? nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #54
Hi- Have I seen you somewhere before? Hydra Aug 2012 #57
This one is clearly important to them. woo me with science Aug 2012 #51
Good post... If one needs to be reminded that social security is not the problem that is destroying midnight Aug 2012 #50
It's so early in the election season for 'divide and conquer" but I'm sure seeing it a lot lately.. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #52
Well, Romney announced his VP choice today... SidDithers Aug 2012 #59
I was just thinking that myself Whisp Aug 2012 #66
If you are a Canadian who is ineligible to vote in American elections, why do you care and why AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #96
And what's your stake in this, as a Canadian, not a Democrat at all? Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #135
... SidDithers Aug 2012 #207
Keep trying, Manny... SidDithers Aug 2012 #53
How's your Medicare working out for you? Fuddnik Aug 2012 #71
... SidDithers Aug 2012 #74
Does Canada have Medicare? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #97
... SidDithers Aug 2012 #123
Does that mean that you don't know? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #124
It is not funny Sid. You are here advocating cuts in a nation that is not your own. Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #137
I'll just say Puglover Aug 2012 #139
I have an internatinonal life, and friends in many, many countries. We all discuss politics Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #142
Thanks for this MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #150
+2000. Yup, right on. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #155
Well said, Bluenorthwest. n/t Laelth Aug 2012 #266
What you said Blue... 2banon Aug 2012 #272
Excellent post. A lot of people would like to see those questions answered. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #286
Well said. woo me with science Aug 2012 #311
Here is a link to the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #143
Canada must have Medicare or something better. That's why they are always rolling on the floor Autumn Aug 2012 #149
It's sad but amusing that Whisp Aug 2012 #163
Insurance Finance Reform, Heath care Reform Autumn Aug 2012 #167
Canada did not get the health care we have in only 4 years. Whisp Aug 2012 #176
Reform attempts have gone on longer than 4 years. You might not be aware of that. Autumn Aug 2012 #183
or Whisp Aug 2012 #188
My kind of thinking is more prevalent here in the USA than what you would think. Autumn Aug 2012 #195
what would be your answer to Obama successfully passing a full universal care program you want? Whisp Aug 2012 #200
Why do I think the US is so far behind on this basic human right? Simple, our politicians Autumn Aug 2012 #215
if he let the repuglicans frame everything Whisp Aug 2012 #219
Well they sure loved it and praised it when it was Romeycare. Autumn Aug 2012 #225
there are a lot of people that are realizing that yes, health care has been reformed Whisp Aug 2012 #228
Question here. How are your elections in Canada financed? Autumn Aug 2012 #231
I got a quick link here: Whisp Aug 2012 #232
Wow. Thank you for that link. Autumn Aug 2012 #253
if you are interested please look up Tommy Douglas in Canadian politics Whisp Aug 2012 #280
They don't hate it. They got what they wanted when got the mandate. This plan saved the sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #288
44,000 Americans die each year in the US for lack of HC, including those who have 'Coverage' sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #287
I don't think anyone is laughing about your lack of health care Whisp Aug 2012 #289
No, your friend Sid is highly amused by the frustration of those who would like to stop sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #290
what I think is you should just cool your jets and watch those accusations. Whisp Aug 2012 #293
I'm afraid you don't understand. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #297
"Cool your jets," followed by "I can understand your pain and frustration," woo me with science Aug 2012 #310
No, I'm amused when your arguments descend to "You're Canadian"... SidDithers Aug 2012 #308
Sabrina, woo me with science Aug 2012 #312
Thank you wmws. I didn't really expect it to have any impact at all on certain people, but for those sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #315
I hope so, too. woo me with science Aug 2012 #316
Not Democrats. woo me with science Aug 2012 #55
Most of these people want to retire from the congress NeeDeep Aug 2012 #62
Is it just about retiring from Congress with these folks Ken Burch Aug 2012 #100
100% agree. Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #69
Agree with the agree. nt hay rick Aug 2012 #75
Many have bought into the idea that there will be no Social Security/Medicare when they get old jwirr Aug 2012 #72
That drumbeat has been pounding loudly since Reagan years suffragette Aug 2012 #202
Please tell us what to do about the fact that Medicare has evolved as THE adjunct to for-profit care patrice Aug 2012 #76
Patrice...you are on the right track..the Ontario health Care plan for seniors.is a good basic plan nenagh Aug 2012 #87
This is a hard thing to talk about here, because there are those who put their political patrice Aug 2012 #177
Here's an idea. Require any and every provider to accept Medicare. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #133
Democrats should be advocating expanding these programs. Yet NONE are. harun Aug 2012 #78
Yes! That's the way to fight back! MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #80
+100000 woo me with science Aug 2012 #101
That would have made a better OP SunSeeker Aug 2012 #154
Maybe they've been snorting Koch with Republicans Jack Rabbit Aug 2012 #81
50th Rec. Just reindex the top up rate a bit. Problem solved. leveymg Aug 2012 #83
Rnablers. Octafish Aug 2012 #99
Enemies with benefits. We became the enemy, displaced them from Wall St,and that drives them crazy. leveymg Aug 2012 #141
I see no significant difference between the Third Way and the GOP. Zorra Aug 2012 #86
Bill Clinton reduced Social Security benefits by signing tax legislation which made 85% of AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #88
Reagan began the taxation of benefits in 1983, following the advice of 'the Greenspan Commission' Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #140
Some say, many say, that the Great Prevaricator reduced taxes. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #313
Bill Clinton is not only "big dog" he's a Big "Blue Dog" whathehell Aug 2012 #302
Good for Rachel. She's always perceptive. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #314
Right...She's the best and I trust her completely. n/t whathehell Aug 2012 #324
The guy who wants to liquidate Social Security gets the republican nod for VP today bhikkhu Aug 2012 #90
That's what Manny does. Fabricates strawmen Dems, ignores real Republican threats and politicies. emulatorloo Aug 2012 #168
"that people who believe themselves to be Democrats ..." seanpencil Aug 2012 #93
Shh. You're not supposed to remember these things. woo me with science Aug 2012 #103
hahahahahahahahah seanpencil Aug 2012 #111
+1. not only that, but benefits have *already* been cut multiple times subrosa. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #115
great point seanpencil Aug 2012 #185
no, capitalism is a ponzi scheme. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #186
Social security is not an entitlement, it is an annuity that we have paid into. Calling it, still_one Aug 2012 #109
that's why it *is* an entitlement. we paid in & we're entitled to it. it's on the dems that they HiPointDem Aug 2012 #114
I can't add anything here Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #116
" ... without slashing benefits for future generations" AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #117
Which in the context of the President's other statements eomer Aug 2012 #131
thanks for this Progressive dog Aug 2012 #136
Not conspiracy theories but rather the clear meaning of the President's own words. eomer Aug 2012 #144
Why do you continually push the meme of "conspiracy theory?" Oilwellian Aug 2012 #147
Grand Capitulation? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #151
Thank YOU for the kindle Oilwellian Aug 2012 #161
Thank WOO for the kindle MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #174
so where are the Grand Cuts? Whisp Aug 2012 #208
What President Obama meant is plain, it doesn't require interpretation. eomer Aug 2012 #247
Excellent post, with actual facts MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #257
Met with crickets, indeed. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #282
Facts are to the Third Way MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #285
and what exactly has he done to fulfill your dark fantasies? Whisp Aug 2012 #283
What he has done is exactly what I posted - promoted cutting Social Security benefits. eomer Aug 2012 #298
Excellent post, woo me with science Aug 2012 #284
This message was self-deleted by its author DirkGently Nov 2012 #328
Thank you. But expect to see people denying the President's own words. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #291
You are welcome. And as to why -- AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #198
Briefing room word games: What's a 'slash' versus a 'cut' in Social Security MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #138
Hey, I found ProSense Aug 2012 #145
Are you referring to our president and MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #146
. ProSense Aug 2012 #148
Parse away, Manny, but you #*&^@ better pick a side. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #196
What am I parsing? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #203
Words, Manny. You are parsing words. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #211
I Highly disagree with your link's suggestions MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #221
You're making a prediction, Manny, and a cynical one at that. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #224
Absolutely unreal. woo me with science Aug 2012 #235
you have no clue what you are talking about (see below) AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #237
The chocolate ration has been increased! nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #239
BOO! AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #241
You just linked to a right-wing, Third Way rag woo me with science Aug 2012 #234
LOL. Nonsense. Do some research before you yell boo! AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #236
Red is green. woo me with science Aug 2012 #238
Your WOO is weak, grasshopper. BOO! AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #240
The chained CPI hurts seniors. woo me with science Aug 2012 #242
You are not the arbiter of defining "real Democrats." AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #243
You don't support the Chained CPI, seriously, say it is not so. This IS DU after all. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #275
You speak as if there is a plan. There is not; that's the point. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #276
Knuckleheads! Nice. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #277
No, what's insane is brazen support for cutting SS on a Democratic board. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #318
And he has the President's own words. But they don't count, right? sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #292
Yeah, Manny pick a side - slash or cut? Doctor_J Aug 2012 #249
K&R 17% that still leaves tens of millions of people with no regular access, Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #129
They have a small constituency to please: Themselves. WinkyDink Aug 2012 #132
K&R Manny.Great OP. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #157
I like it. ProSense Aug 2012 #158
It's all over the very front page of the Third Way website right now. The front page. Zorra Aug 2012 #201
Third Wayers are not Democrats tavalon Aug 2012 #159
1) You created a Strawman Democrat 2) You attempt to misdirect from Ryan 3) You blame Democrats for emulatorloo Aug 2012 #162
Rep. Conyers: Obama Demanded Social Security Cuts--Not GOP MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #169
, ProSense Aug 2012 #171
Good try "Manny", Keep trolling the Conyers quote despite the fact emulatorloo Aug 2012 #175
My ass seems to be where it started its life, MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #192
You've already been given the link. emulatorloo Aug 2012 #206
I don't see it in this thread. MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #250
I am not your research assistant. emulatorloo Aug 2012 #319
So to be clear: you're accusing me of being a Republican plant? MannyGoldstein Aug 2012 #322
Oh please. woo me with science Aug 2012 #170
Yeah your bullshit coordinates very well with Manny's emulatorloo Aug 2012 #173
I wonder if woo would ever tell us about her job & benefits. It's easy to say burn it all down patrice Aug 2012 #178
Stop spitting, emulatorloo. woo me with science Aug 2012 #179
What's underlying this entire discussion is a desperate attempt to distract from the Ryan Plan emulatorloo Aug 2012 #182
Thank you! For-profit treatment modalities that get the worst results for the highest prices are patrice Aug 2012 #204
Really appreciate your post. emulatorloo Aug 2012 #210
I have seen some elders off. Have also been around a few cancer patients. & Taught high patrice Aug 2012 #216
Exactly Progressive dog Aug 2012 #191
thank you emulatorloo Aug 2012 #212
Conyers owes the president an apology. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #205
I thought the Dems had majorities and the WH when these were passed Doctor_J Aug 2012 #317
It is incumbent upon all of us who care about Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid to call on Citizen Worker Aug 2012 #165
If anything we should lower the eligibility age for SS TBF Aug 2012 #187
They took the on ramp to the 3rd Way. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #194
Talking point repetition. 3rd Way could be anything. Bigotry against it is EXCLUSIONARY, tell us patrice Aug 2012 #213
Do you prefer "moderates", "Centrists", "neo liberals"? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #217
Why do you charaterize protecting ground-gained as silencing? Why don't you entertain the hypothesis patrice Aug 2012 #230
BTW, I prefer Neo-Liberals or DLC for what you are referring to, because dialectics CAN be a good patrice Aug 2012 #233
Are you denying that the Democratic Party has moved right and now represents "moderates"? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #246
Nothing very anarchic in any of that. All QUITE predictable. A bunch of us are living in deep RED patrice Aug 2012 #254
And they could say the same to you laundry_queen Aug 2012 #296
Allow me to remind anyone who has forgotten the following: savannah43 Aug 2012 #197
K&R I agree 100% airplaneman Aug 2012 #229
Good question -- I've been asking it for years stupidicus Aug 2012 #248
those are our choices these days. Dems who want to cut SS & Medicare, or Doctor_J Aug 2012 #251
The biggest problem with Medicare is the projected increasing costs for chronic diseases like andym Aug 2012 #252
Well that is exactly what this campaign is going to be about.... humbled_opinion Aug 2012 #255
Sometimes dsteve01 Aug 2012 #258
K&R Jamastiene Aug 2012 #259
The DLC was completely successful in shifting the Democratic Party to the right. NorthCarolina Aug 2012 #265
With Medicare, you have to make a distinction between cutting costs and cutting health care. pnwmom Aug 2012 #267
Dismayed that Obama would even introduce Simpson-Bowels.... lib2DaBone Aug 2012 #268
Bravo and Amen! 2banon Aug 2012 #270
Amen Manny! n/t dflprincess Aug 2012 #273
Just A few notes................. Red Crow Aug 2012 #274
Howard Dean: "You Can't Convince People That A Dem Is Going To Cut Medicare" ProSense Aug 2012 #278
Must be talking about the Blue Dogs. . B Calm Aug 2012 #279
dam this is still be commented on.... madrchsod Aug 2012 #281
forget something? like who you are talking about. arely staircase Aug 2012 #309
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