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mwooldri

(10,299 posts)
51. Ugly ticket? Yes. Good ticket? Yes for the Democrats.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 05:40 PM
Aug 2012

The fact that these two people made it to the top of the ticket in a General Election does point that there is something rotten in these United States.

However Obama and Biden are decent, sensible, moderate individuals. The Romney/Ryan ticket may be great for the Democrats in the short term, but sadly this ticket just moves America further to the right. This ticket makes Ronald Reagan look like a left wing Republican, and it makes Eisenhower look like an extreme Liberal.

I need America to prove me wrong. I need America to show that it has a conscience, and doesn't vote for a particular person just because they belong to "their party". Ideally I'd like a Mondale-style defeat of Romney - actually I'd like Romney to get less than 13 Electoral College votes. I somehow think it isn't going to happen but with Paul Ryan on board that other bus ... Democrats can turn the heat up on the simple fact: Romney & Ryans' plan removes the Social Safety Net and increases taxes on those who can ill afford it.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be holding a bible and draped in an American flag." HopeHoops Aug 2012 #1
I concur, sold cell phone for a scope. nt bonniebgood Aug 2012 #72
Your last sentence expresses my feelings. russspeakeasy Aug 2012 #2
RMoney and RAyn. A DEram come true! Kablooie Aug 2012 #3
I think Paul Ryan is all about... ellisonz Aug 2012 #4
yeah, that's a factor cali Aug 2012 #5
I think they're trying to distract from Romney's religion problem... ellisonz Aug 2012 #6
I think it's a desperation move cali Aug 2012 #8
I severely doubt that Romney has a political team. jeff47 Aug 2012 #27
Religion is off topic this year. especially bonniebgood Aug 2012 #73
What are you trying to say... ellisonz Aug 2012 #92
yeah kardonb Aug 2012 #93
Bingo Mz Pip Aug 2012 #88
Bone Ugly, Ma'am: Nothing But Ugly, All The Way Down.... The Magistrate Aug 2012 #7
Yes indeed, sir. cali Aug 2012 #9
Nothing Uglier than marrow ugly SaveAmerica Aug 2012 #97
I'd say it is more cardboard than ugly underpants Aug 2012 #10
No. It's as ugly as can be imagined cali Aug 2012 #11
In a nutshell Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #20
wow. and I agree that we've only seen the surface so far cali Aug 2012 #21
Your friends, we're they ...? unc70 Aug 2012 #59
The way I see it, the people who made this ticket happen don't really give a shit if Obama wins or Brickbat Aug 2012 #12
I think that's a rather narrow view of it cali Aug 2012 #14
I've just figured that the easiest way to explain these bizarre tickets (Bush/Cheney, McCain/Palin, Brickbat Aug 2012 #15
Quite contrary, they think $$ spread in CORPORATE media with make this SOW's ear into a silk purse. CarmanK Aug 2012 #17
I think the people who made this ticket happen are hedging their bets, and sure to win either way. Marr Aug 2012 #38
So that's the new DU Meme? "Obama is just the same as Ryan" emulatorloo Aug 2012 #78
How about this-- you express your own thoughts, and I'll express mine. Marr Aug 2012 #82
How about this. You take responsibility for your own words emulatorloo Aug 2012 #84
I never denied it. I said it because I meant it. Marr Aug 2012 #86
"grade school summary"? I just cut to the heart of the matter. emulatorloo Aug 2012 #87
I take it you're not willing to bet against that "Grand Bargain" thing I mentioned. /nt Marr Aug 2012 #96
quite a fantastical leap you have made. emulatorloo Aug 2012 #101
Another non-answer. Marr Aug 2012 #103
No. emulatorloo Aug 2012 #106
Thank you. Marr Aug 2012 #108
*crickets* Marr Aug 2012 #104
Hold your horses, I have things I have to do in the real world. emulatorloo Aug 2012 #105
It's an experiment brazil Aug 2012 #66
I think you need to look at how Republicans rule the red states. emulatorloo Aug 2012 #79
I'm not saying there's no difference. Brickbat Aug 2012 #83
Vaginal probe was the most visceral of examples. emulatorloo Aug 2012 #85
and add Ryans abortion extremism on top of that n/t Enrique Aug 2012 #13
ROMNEY HOOD riding on Paul RYAN EXPRESS to Corporate Hell. Misery loves company and they want all US CarmanK Aug 2012 #16
Yep, it is far worse than McCain and Palin. I agree, McCain had some RKP5637 Aug 2012 #37
Not just ugly, evil too. Avalux Aug 2012 #18
I don't use that word- though here it's tempting cali Aug 2012 #19
Not Just Ugly, But Also Downright Insulting To Intelligence Skraxx Aug 2012 #22
well said! cali Aug 2012 #24
I like Wisconsin Cheese.... The empressof all Aug 2012 #23
Except for Meunster cheese of course Blue Owl Aug 2012 #62
Btw, when talking to conservatives, point out how this is all the fault of the SCOTUS jeff47 Aug 2012 #25
I knew it was bad when broadcaster75201 Aug 2012 #26
With a Romney/Ryan ticket it says a lot about America, and it is not good, and it is scary. I really RKP5637 Aug 2012 #28
It's worse than that. From personal family DevonRex Aug 2012 #42
Thanks for your summary. That, makes it even more frightening, intelligent people RKP5637 Aug 2012 #47
Some even admit to racism again and DevonRex Aug 2012 #57
I hear you and agree up to a point Grammy23 Aug 2012 #56
Bush/Cheney were worse. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #29
no. they weren't. cali Aug 2012 #64
Yes, they were. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #68
I am not so sure that Bushco actually won in 2004. I thought that avebury Aug 2012 #107
Let's not argue over pigs. n/t ellisonz Aug 2012 #109
Obama has to get both the senate and house riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #30
I don't think taking back the house is within the realm of possibility cali Aug 2012 #31
They need to start a 50 state strategy today! ananda Aug 2012 #36
We should have started that at least 10 years ago! RC Aug 2012 #58
Herman and Eddy Munster King_Klonopin Aug 2012 #32
I guess it's to excite the base cali Aug 2012 #35
Obama needs to make bold, positive statements about Social Security and JDPriestly Aug 2012 #33
"that this ticket should even be put up reflects some very scary stuff about this country" PufPuf23 Aug 2012 #34
I'm disgusted that even 40% of americans would vote for such craven candidates southmost Aug 2012 #39
they are going for broke now Skittles Aug 2012 #40
So was McCain/Palin ibegurpard Aug 2012 #41
From what I have seen posted here about Romney and Ryan AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #43
I could almost see a world reaction to stop them, because I think they RKP5637 Aug 2012 #50
I agree completely,RPK. Romney/Ryan will do globally what catbyte Aug 2012 #54
+10,000 smirkymonkey Aug 2012 #99
Yes it is. I agree. yardwork Aug 2012 #44
Almost* classic battle between tradition and progress, IMO. JohnnyLib2 Aug 2012 #45
A serial outsourcer and a crazy lunatic who's out to destroy millions. Initech Aug 2012 #46
Not to mention Ryan's family made Myrina Aug 2012 #48
"I do think President Obama will likely win" 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #49
You have it right.... dtom67 Aug 2012 #94
I know what you mean 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #100
Ugly ticket? Yes. Good ticket? Yes for the Democrats. mwooldri Aug 2012 #51
I agree elections like this set a moral tone. A Romney/Ryan win would be a step into the darkness Douglas Carpenter Aug 2012 #52
That's my feeling, too. A couple of Hitlers who will do anything it takes to mow down America. nt valerief Aug 2012 #53
Ugly & desparate. This is why there has to be optimum Dem voter participation. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #55
so true ! agent zero Aug 2012 #60
Fuggly indeed. Blue Owl Aug 2012 #61
Ryan is the more dangerous of the two-- 19th century here we come.... andym Aug 2012 #63
Anyone who thinks a business man B Calm Aug 2012 #65
Agree x a lot. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #67
Suddenly, Palin doesn't look so bad agentS Aug 2012 #69
Is there realy any difference between an conquering ruler BanzaiBonnie Aug 2012 #70
that can be debated but what can't be debated is the cali Aug 2012 #74
Just when you think CHENEY was the nadir,....... WinkyDink Aug 2012 #71
they are a repulsive scary ticket samsingh Aug 2012 #75
One thing is crystal clear fredamae Aug 2012 #76
Worse than Bush/Cheney? johnlucas Aug 2012 #77
More upfront about it than Bush/Cheney. And Bush seems honest compared to Romney. emulatorloo Aug 2012 #80
Yeah Cosmocat Aug 2012 #90
Bush was an apathetic drunk Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #81
that is about as an accurate Cosmocat Aug 2012 #91
Really,Really Ugly Ticket elbloggoZY27 Aug 2012 #89
Republican party last gasp lovuian Aug 2012 #95
Yes it is. I just hope the evangelicals realize how cruel Paul Ryan really is and plans to be. /nt Overseas Aug 2012 #98
They need to go down hard... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #102
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