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bhikkhu

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19. Anecdote is then better?
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 01:30 PM
Aug 2012

When looking at national or global economic activity, it is impossible to gain a real perspective by looking at what one's neighbors are up to, or how one's city is faring, or even one's state. Outside of statistics, we have a media that offers snippets of anecdote from here and there, generally bent to some agenda or other. People tend to read and watch what they find agreeable to their perspective; if you think we are in a desperate depression, you tend to watch a certain news channel and read articles with supportive headlines to massage that perspective.

We had a recession, and we are in a slow recovery. Its evident in the employment numbers, and in the overall economic numbers. Its easy to say that 4 million new jobs over the last 3 and a half years is not enough, but 4 million new jobs is also neither recession nor depression. Economic growth of 2% may not satisfy, but it is certainly not a recession.

If you look at the global energy-and-resources picture, 2% growth is likely to be "the new 5% growth" for the rest of our lives. I haven't seen anything workable that will change that - certainly not from any political party or ideology. The planet's resources don't change, regardless of how you squint your eyes. If you look at the correlation between economic activity and carbon emissions, and the inevitable link between carbon emissions and global climate change, you might begin to think that slower growth may be a blessing, and a long-term shift in the right direction for our species and our planet.

I have always used humor Mojorabbit Aug 2012 #1
I simply can't. I've tried. PDJane Aug 2012 #2
love this seanpencil Aug 2012 #3
8 inches JohnnyRingo Aug 2012 #4
no one seanpencil Aug 2012 #5
See, that's why women have a problem with spatial relationships............ PDJane Aug 2012 #6
or long distance ones seanpencil Aug 2012 #7
I credit you for good judgement. JohnnyRingo Aug 2012 #8
thanks for good cheer seanpencil Aug 2012 #10
Not watching tv tends to limit the crazy-making aspects bhikkhu Aug 2012 #9
great post seanpencil Aug 2012 #11
Well, looking at definitions and statistics - bhikkhu Aug 2012 #14
ivory tower view? seanpencil Aug 2012 #17
Anecdote is then better? bhikkhu Aug 2012 #19
Really seanpencil Aug 2012 #20
Not magical thinking, just looking at the actual numbers bhikkhu Aug 2012 #21
and not looking at the people seanpencil Aug 2012 #22
One can only see a few people at a time bhikkhu Aug 2012 #23
one can only see a few numbers at a time seanpencil Aug 2012 #25
Yet people are spending money bhikkhu Aug 2012 #35
I hope seanpencil Aug 2012 #41
Well, I seriously doubt that you are! bhikkhu Aug 2012 #62
if you had a big picture view seanpencil Aug 2012 #64
Some of the (few) advantages Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #12
that's beautifully put seanpencil Aug 2012 #13
And thanks for proving my point. Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #15
This 74 year old agrees with you. emilyg Aug 2012 #16
You are the one making assumptions seanpencil Aug 2012 #18
Of course we're in a different situation Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #26
You are in stitches about what you see as rhetoric seanpencil Aug 2012 #29
Again, thanks for confirming my initial thought Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #31
oh yes seanpencil Aug 2012 #40
Oh, noes!!! Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #46
bullshit seanpencil Aug 2012 #47
Look, sweetie Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #49
don't dig yourself in any deeper seanpencil Aug 2012 #50
One thing I tell my kids bhikkhu Aug 2012 #24
These are good points seanpencil Aug 2012 #48
Civil rights are well established by law and custom here bhikkhu Aug 2012 #55
and here with have the most dangerous blind spot of them all. seanpencil Aug 2012 #57
Just don't join Al Qaeda, or declare a personal war on the US bhikkhu Aug 2012 #61
oh, so you're not serious seanpencil Aug 2012 #66
My parents/grandparents never said that. And neither did yours if you are over 20. ret5hd Aug 2012 #32
Didn't say what? Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #36
please consider DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #38
I'm not the OP type Summer Hathaway Aug 2012 #53
I sometimes think that I have to do double duty because my wife does not pay attention at all to upaloopa Aug 2012 #27
DU. barbtries Aug 2012 #28
I saw the VP choice today and I am back to being happy again. Festivito Aug 2012 #30
Si vis pacem, para scotch. Robb Aug 2012 #33
Try to see the big picture. Envision what would happen if we don't participate and give up. n/t Avalux Aug 2012 #34
Remembering history and being optimistic lunatica Aug 2012 #37
Did FDR start the GI Bill? seanpencil Aug 2012 #42
I thought it was Truman, but it could have been Roosevelt's idea all along and after he CTyankee Aug 2012 #51
yeah that seanpencil Aug 2012 #52
Want to know the difference between... 99Forever Aug 2012 #39
DING DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER seanpencil Aug 2012 #43
For me I'm far removed from most of the coverage being overseas davidpdx Aug 2012 #44
cool seanpencil Aug 2012 #45
Depression, what depression? Hell I'm B Calm Aug 2012 #54
I have witnessed something a lot closer to a depression under 2 terms of Reagan NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #56
this is better? seanpencil Aug 2012 #59
I was laid off from my job for the better part of 6 years back then so yes this is better to me NNN0LHI Aug 2012 #60
Better for some seanpencil Aug 2012 #63
what's the alternative? ibegurpard Aug 2012 #58
yes seanpencil Aug 2012 #65
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