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MattBaggins

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14. Not true at all

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:20 AM

Aug 2012

i do not believe in one single natural born right.

Rights come from humans agreeing that certain rules make life better for everyone.

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Our rights come from nature and gawd not from governments [View all] malaise Aug 2012 OP

Yes, God was big into slavery and women not having the right to vote. Botany Aug 2012 #1

Unbelievable, GreatCaesarsGhost Aug 2012 #2

Even Andrea Mitchell picked up on this one malaise Aug 2012 #6

Our rights come from nature and gawd not from governments kxm40 Aug 2012 #3

So that means Mitt R0bme anticipates somebody putting a hit out on him? Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #12

POOR GUY kxm40 Aug 2012 #49

Saw someone argue the absolute opposite online yesterday. sibelian Aug 2012 #4

which god? handmade34 Aug 2012 #5

Blind IO of course. hobbit709 Aug 2012 #57

sickening reasoning, but what the religious right wants to hear northoftheborder Aug 2012 #7

The Constitution doesn't give us our rights SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2012 #8

Not true at all MattBaggins Aug 2012 #14

That's your opinion, and you're welcome to it SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2012 #17

It's more than opinion MattBaggins Aug 2012 #22

Nope, nothing more than your opinion SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2012 #25

No it is not "it is what it is" MattBaggins Aug 2012 #31

So, in your construct SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2012 #33

That is correct MattBaggins Aug 2012 #37

You and I just have a philosophical difference SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2012 #41

as a comprmise MattBaggins Aug 2012 #45

Add me to those who have a philosophical difference with you Xipe Totec Aug 2012 #53

You won't be able to convince the RW of this. They are mostly brain dead and don't understand nanabugg Aug 2012 #46

Rights are enshrined in constitutions n/t malaise Aug 2012 #16

The notion of "Inherent Rights" is nonsense on stilts. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #38

I'm still gagging. I suppose it's too much to expect snappyturtle Aug 2012 #9

Law of the jungle & pure fantasy upi402 Aug 2012 #10

Dog whistle to the theocratic right. longship Aug 2012 #11

Rights aren't "granted" by the Constitution though. NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #13

Not logical MattBaggins Aug 2012 #15

My view? They are a part of the "social contract". We as a society claim them for ourselves. NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #42

We are in agreement then MattBaggins Aug 2012 #44

Oh I agree. But society still gives an entity ("government") authority NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #47

I agree 100% SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2012 #19

Couldn't agree more. Missycim Aug 2012 #50

They are enshrined in the Constitution n/t malaise Aug 2012 #20

RIGHTS that come from nature... noel711 Aug 2012 #18

Er, this is American History 101 Prism Aug 2012 #21

Thank you!! Seeking Serenity Aug 2012 #23

And welcome to reality MattBaggins Aug 2012 #29

No kidding. The ignorance here is astounding oldhippie Aug 2012 #24

It is one of the tenets that is wrong and needs an update MattBaggins Aug 2012 #30

It was a fundamental idea but still incorrect MattBaggins Aug 2012 #28

So if "Man" (by which I assume you mean "mankind" or "society" Seeking Serenity Aug 2012 #32

I did not say it would be right or I would like it MattBaggins Aug 2012 #34

You're very very wrong Prism Aug 2012 #36

It does not lay down the framework any more MattBaggins Aug 2012 #43

No, I don't think so gollygee Aug 2012 #54

Yes gollygee Aug 2012 #52

Reality is often unsettling MattBaggins Aug 2012 #59

Yeah, tell that to slaves (for example). Lex Aug 2012 #26

My rights come from the Flying Spaghetti Monster adigal Aug 2012 #27

Rights are not granted by the govt. or god Equate Aug 2012 #35

Philosophy FAIL. The notion of "Inherent Rights" is illogical nonsense on stilts. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #39

c). None of the above. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #40

Don't you know that the Constitution was handed down by Gawd? maxrandb Aug 2012 #48

Which idiot said that? elleng Aug 2012 #51

Which God? -- Is Rmoney's God the same as Ryan's God? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #55

Maybe, but we need governments to enforce them treestar Aug 2012 #56

Rmoney just said it again a minute ago. Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #58