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In the discussion thread: Naming Paul Ryan as veep is a collosal mistake by Romney [View all]

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Sat Aug 11, 2012, 05:12 AM

cali (80,206 posts)

63. I'm not sure it will make much difference

As Romney had already endorsed the Ryan budget, dems are already free to dig tidbits out of it and use it against romney, and as people so often note, the number 2 on a ticket, historically hasn't made much difference. Still, I think it's a pick that shows romney is increasingly desperate. I also think having 2 unlikeable assholes on a ticket makes things worse for romney.

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119 replies	Author	Time	Post
Naming Paul Ryan as veep is a collosal mistake by Romney [View all]	scheming daemons	Aug 2012	OP
I agree...	SidDithers	Aug 2012	#1
Rumnuts fave book is Battlefield Earth (Scientology) and Ryan is Randian. He also loses	roguevalley	Aug 2012	#31
Take stock in Napoleon's words	Brother Buzz	Aug 2012	#2
Nice!	part man all 86	Aug 2012	#32
We should shut up, then.	Fawke Em	Aug 2012	#53
Snicker baby, snicker	PurityOfEssence	Aug 2012	#95
no attempt to balance the budget for 28 years	Motown_Johnny	Aug 2012	#3
HuffPo says he's it	ProfessionalLeftist	Aug 2012	#4
An Obama landslide is now a real possibility. nt	Cognitive_Resonance	Aug 2012	#5
Maybe MittWitt can take some of the Repub congresscritters down with him...	elzenmahn	Aug 2012	#12
the real question: will it exceed Papa Bush v. Dukakis or Reagan v. Mondale...	yurbud	Aug 2012	#108
Not to mention the Catholic Nuns have called his budget anti-human.	matmar	Aug 2012	#6
Oh yeah. Don't mess with the nuns.	tblue	Aug 2012	#13
Whatever will the Catholic bishops say?	Lefty Thinker	Aug 2012	#27
Actually it was the Bishops. The nuns merely agreed.	catbyte	Aug 2012	#51
And boarded a bus, crossing the country to criticise the Ryan budget.	JoePhilly	Aug 2012	#112
Dammit, ix-nay on the istake-may!	Ikonoklast	Aug 2012	#7
Brilliant. Because nobody likes Medicare and Social Security.	tblue	Aug 2012	#16
Cat food isn't as bad as it sounds.	BlueStreak	Aug 2012	#19
Yum. I can't WAIT to turn 65!	Chemisse	Aug 2012	#102
Need to go to college go ask your parents for the money.	part man all 86	Aug 2012	#37
what's that, guy?	Tunkamerica	Aug 2012	#40
I think it's irony	tavalon	Aug 2012	#61
It could use a couple of things.	Tunkamerica	Aug 2012	#65
it is	backwoodsbob	Aug 2012	#68
Nah, just use Social Security benefits, like Ryan did. (nt)	jeff47	Aug 2012	#85
We get to run against Ryan, literally in EVERY SINGLE HOUSE AND SENATE SEAT!	Firebrand Gary	Aug 2012	#8
And the playbook to use is his own budget proposal...	elzenmahn	Aug 2012	#10
If memory serves me correctly...	elzenmahn	Aug 2012	#9
Yes, but now he OWNS it.	BlueStreak	Aug 2012	#21
How about calling it the Mittryan budget plan? Easy to say.	Auntie Bush	Aug 2012	#105
But I am just a lowly renter and not a home owner or landlord	golfguru	Aug 2012	#30
Even for a lot of homeowners the standard deduction beats itemized..	Fumesucker	Aug 2012	#66
Lots of those coveted independent voters are home owners. They love the deduction.	yardwork	Aug 2012	#74
i don't pay enough mtg interest to itemize and so have to take the standard deduction.	ellenfl	Aug 2012	#77
Maybe so, but they may not even realize it. I'm serious. It's the perception that matters.	yardwork	Aug 2012	#78
the ones who don't realize it are surely first time buyers.	ellenfl	Aug 2012	#79
And you think raising the effective cost of all houses by 12-15%	jeff47	Aug 2012	#88
huh?	ellenfl	Aug 2012	#94
Mortgage interest deduction reduces the effective price of houses	jeff47	Aug 2012	#100
It's not a myth to us	vankuria	Aug 2012	#92
i didn't say i spoke for everyone. i'm just saying i was surprised and	ellenfl	Aug 2012	#96
If there was no mortgage deduction, the standard deduction could go much lower	Chemisse	Aug 2012	#103
Those rural home owners you describe are most likely NOT in a high tax bracket	golfguru	Aug 2012	#80
i wish my tax rate was 15%! eom	ellenfl	Aug 2012	#97
Nurse, teacher, policeman, fireman, city bus driver, garbage truck driver etc	golfguru	Aug 2012	#114
i think 'or higher' applies. eom	ellenfl	Aug 2012	#119
Slightly rural, not rural	jeff47	Aug 2012	#101
Median Family income in 2011 was $56,000 (2 wage earners)	golfguru	Aug 2012	#115
The poor aren't buying houses.	jeff47	Aug 2012	#118
No one's sure what the "loopholes" Ryan intends to close are, because he won't say	jmowreader	Aug 2012	#45
He said he supported it....and then that he doesn't support it. (nt)	jeff47	Aug 2012	#86
Um no picking Ryan is great...	Kalidurga	Aug 2012	#11
I see what you did there.	NYC Liberal	Aug 2012	#36
It ties Romney both to the unpopular legislation and to the unpopular Congress	fishwax	Aug 2012	#14
exactly	grantcart	Aug 2012	#34
This unmasks the vision Republicans have for America: the wealthy rule and no safety net for you	neverforget	Aug 2012	#15
You are	Delphinus	Aug 2012	#84
That will get the baggers side even worse	Panasonic	Aug 2012	#17
That handful of Koch led billionaires want to groom him to run in 2016	Warpy	Aug 2012	#18
This is fucking awesome	Aerows	Aug 2012	#20
It really made my day....I was concerned about a couple of possibilities but Ryan wasn't one of them	Rowdyboy	Aug 2012	#38
I agree----Paul Ryan is a gift	Grammy23	Aug 2012	#22
But let's not allow Ryan's budget to take the focus off of Romney's taxes.	Avalux	Aug 2012	#23
I don't think we need to worry about that	Caretha	Aug 2012	#69
Almost as awesome as a Jindal pick would have been. Ryan is not a credible choice. nt	Cognitive_Resonance	Aug 2012	#24
It's Christmas!	UnrepentantLiberal	Aug 2012	#25
EarlG already know. He posted a photo, see link below	Tx4obama	Aug 2012	#54
He's in photoshop heaven!	UnrepentantLiberal	Aug 2012	#57
BEST news in the world for us, I'm thrilled! nt	Raine	Aug 2012	#26
They had to be afraid they were gonna lose the Teabaggers.	Lone_Star_Dem	Aug 2012	#28
Oh come on! Herman & Eddie go so well together.	SunSeeker	Aug 2012	#29
A colostomistake.	Kablooie	Aug 2012	#33
This strikes me as a purely defensive play. Probably afraid their base would stay home endangering	Cognitive_Resonance	Aug 2012	#35
Paul Ryan is going to seriously endanger all their down ballot choices	Bjorn Against	Aug 2012	#83
What, was Sarah Palin not available?	thecascadian	Aug 2012	#39
welcome to DU!	renate	Aug 2012	#110
We can only hope so.	Fozzledick	Aug 2012	#41
This could be a longer-term strategy by the RNC	synapticwave	Aug 2012	#42
To be fair he didn't have many good options.	D23MIURG23	Aug 2012	#43
Wow, I hope this is good news	TicketyBoo	Aug 2012	#44
New Yorker	libodem	Aug 2012	#46
Thanks for the early Christmas gift Willard, This is a guaranteed loser of a pick	Guy Montag	Aug 2012	#47
The Fox News Poll Friday	DallasNE	Aug 2012	#48
Ryan "denounced" Rand earlier this year. presumably in	PeaceNikki	Aug 2012	#49
He's doubling down as if he's going to win the argument	Qutzupalotl	Aug 2012	#50
The Romney/Ryan plan gives themselves tax cuts and we don't even get to see if they need them??????	Firebrand Gary	Aug 2012	#52
I hope you are right. I am not sure how dense the American public is though. One thing for certain	still_one	Aug 2012	#55
A lot of possibilities here . . .	caseymoz	Aug 2012	#56
My thoughts exactly.	Cali_Democrat	Aug 2012	#58
Everything you said is true. I'm hoping it really is Ryan.	Poll_Blind	Aug 2012	#59
I see this as an early Christmas present from RMoney	tavalon	Aug 2012	#60
+100	rad51	Aug 2012	#62
I'm not sure it will make much difference	cali	Aug 2012	#63
Yep, but Romney needed someone who could make a difference.	NYC Liberal	Aug 2012	#75
One wonders how much power the GOP itself..	sendero	Aug 2012	#64
I don't believe the Adults are in charge at GOP	DearAbby	Aug 2012	#93
You are absolutely correct.	randome	Aug 2012	#109
And the fact that he is as dumb as a stump	madokie	Aug 2012	#67
I don't think he is	nichomachus	Aug 2012	#71
whatever else he is, he's not stupid. and he's not inarticulate.	cali	Aug 2012	#73
read what he tried to pull off with his budget and tell me he is 1: smart 2: articulate	madokie	Aug 2012	#90
He thinks he's an intellectual.	gulliver	Aug 2012	#82
I very much agree, and perfectly stated.	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2012	#89
I thought the Teabaggers hated career politicians	nichomachus	Aug 2012	#70
I think that the Koch brothers think that they can buy this election.	yardwork	Aug 2012	#72
agreed.	DCBob	Aug 2012	#76
Even the RCC hates him!	Odin2005	Aug 2012	#81
Gekko/Galt 2012	Ruby the Liberal	Aug 2012	#87
That's worthy of a bumper sticker	IDemo	Aug 2012	#104
Let 'em.	Ruby the Liberal	Aug 2012	#106
The ONLY way this works for mitt is if it placates teabaggers for 3 months and	pampango	Aug 2012	#91
I disagree, its not a mistake at all.	HooptieWagon	Aug 2012	#98
The WH oppo researchers are popping the champagne	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#99
they should play up that Ayn Rand angle in the Bible Belt	yurbud	Aug 2012	#107
It Was A Panicky, Base-Pleasing Pick	Skraxx	Aug 2012	#111
it's not a mistake if you're throwing the whole race	4 t 4	Aug 2012	#113
Republicans are not deep thinkers!	B Calm	Aug 2012	#116
K&R	Tarheel_Dem	Aug 2012	#117

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