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Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:51 PM

sabrina 1 (34,027 posts)

108. And that is her point, which you just made for her.

McVeigh was NOT a 'lone wolf' but he was often described as such, as Nadin pointed out:

Behind the Lone Terrorist, a Pack Mentality

The FBI has long maintained that Timothy McVeigh, who was executed in 2001 for the Oklahoma City bombing that claimed 168 lives, was the prototypical "lone wolf" terrorist and that anyone implicated in the bombing conspiracy is behind bars.

So, why does the FBI refer to him as a Lone Wolf, when clearly he was not?

Good question, Sid, the same one Nadin raised.

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113 replies	Author	Time	Post
This is a general statement on our FAR RIGHT and militias [View all]	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	OP
Most gun hobbyists I know	Harmony Blue	Aug 2012	#1
Why I said it is a very small and chiefly loud and well connected, group	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#3
Indeed	Harmony Blue	Aug 2012	#13
Hmm.....	deaniac21	Aug 2012	#66
For pete's sake! Let the story be told before	MineralMan	Aug 2012	#2
Why should the OP not offer her opinion on a news story? All anyone not interested has to do	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#67
And why should I not offer my opinion on her OP?	MineralMan	Aug 2012	#72
But you did not answer the question. You basically took it upon yourself to	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#79
Here's some of the story	MNBrewer	Aug 2012	#103
why not wait until we find out who the shooter is, he may be militia, maybe not	loli phabay	Aug 2012	#4
After OKC they had a clear line of connection and responsibitly	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#5
i think that might be due to a thing called laws, its kinda difficult to shut people down who dont	loli phabay	Aug 2012	#11
Yup, and there is also a fact we are familiar with	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#14
uh, right wing militias have been infiltrated by the feds	cali	Aug 2012	#17
I think the op is saying the gov't should do more to counter dangerous right-wing hate groups.	limpyhobbler	Aug 2012	#57
This post was hidden by jury decision.	cali	Aug 2012	#20
Power Elites always create their own destructors....	Junkdrawer	Aug 2012	#6
There are also parallels to Te 1917 revolution.	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#8
Profound	malaise	Aug 2012	#18
More French Revolution Parallels....	Junkdrawer	Aug 2012	#24
Love that quote you said.	Fantastic Anarchist	Aug 2012	#71
deal with militias in what way?	cali	Aug 2012	#7
I think it's a Lord of the Rings reference	petronius	Aug 2012	#16
Ah, thanks.	cali	Aug 2012	#22
But the report from DHS early	malaise	Aug 2012	#9
Yup.	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#10
exactly how do you mean deal with them, i get concerned with language like that	loli phabay	Aug 2012	#12
Enjoy the whirlwind	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#15
lol.	cali	Aug 2012	#19
i was like wtf, no idea what that was about	loli phabay	Aug 2012	#26
"this is not just about guns... but ... a culture"	lunatica	Aug 2012	#21
We are at the mercy of the murdering, raging gun freaks....	99Forever	Aug 2012	#23
Is this analysis based on your experiences	pintobean	Aug 2012	#25
wow.	cali	Aug 2012	#27
Not my find	pintobean	Aug 2012	#31
oddly enough, it's not this sort of thing that irritates me so much	cali	Aug 2012	#35
I just started posting here yesterday and I already noticed that about her too.	Ya Basta	Aug 2012	#42
WTFF.	Brickbat	Aug 2012	#28
Don't you love how he ignores it?	Pacafishmate	Aug 2012	#40
She.	pintobean	Aug 2012	#43
LOL...Busted! Looks like someone's credibility has just been impeached.	Ya Basta	Aug 2012	#41
kick	pintobean	Aug 2012	#46
So.	2ndAmForComputers	Aug 2012	#50
That's not troll hunting	pintobean	Aug 2012	#53
I went to the link. She did not claim to be a cop. Everyone should click through to see	limpyhobbler	Aug 2012	#58
Not really. She was asked by several people in that thread (including me) to clarify, and she	SlimJimmy	Aug 2012	#64
It does not need to be clarified. This is nothing but harassment.	limpyhobbler	Aug 2012	#74
No, a person can't click through and see what she was talking about. You are absolutely full of it.	SlimJimmy	Aug 2012	#84
Don't participate in stalking and harassment.	limpyhobbler	Aug 2012	#87
I asked a legitimate question in the thread and it was ignored for several months. What part of	SlimJimmy	Aug 2012	#88
Anybody can see the person did not claim to be a former cop.	limpyhobbler	Aug 2012	#89
What part of "I was part of the original thread" do you not get? I asked her in that thread	SlimJimmy	Aug 2012	#101
I get that. She was not claiming to be a former cop. That screenshot is out-of-context harassment.	limpyhobbler	Aug 2012	#105
You keep repeating this as if it's fact.	SlimJimmy	Aug 2012	#106
It's the same sleazy smear tactic Fox News uses	limpyhobbler	Aug 2012	#111
I can't make my position any clearer. You simply REFUSE to accept	SlimJimmy	Aug 2012	#112
Anyone can view the quote in context & judge for themself if the person was claiming to be an ex-cop	limpyhobbler	Aug 2012	#113
Exactly. She was not referring to herself, but her buddies on that 'other site' naturally	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#76
"As a former cop, I get it"	zappaman	Aug 2012	#78
You are wrong. Two people have now pointed out to you that you have completely misinterpreted	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#80
The 'former cop' she was referring to, btw, was the one mentioned in the comment she was responding	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#81
I agree, sabrina	pinboy3niner	Aug 2012	#82
Yes, I noticed that also when I read it which is why I did not think	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#92
As an actual ex-cop, not a pretend one, I took her comments as she wrote them. If, in fact,	SlimJimmy	Aug 2012	#85
This is stalking and harassment. It's also a lie.	limpyhobbler	Aug 2012	#59
Because most people won't click through.	JoeyT	Aug 2012	#61
Reading comprehension fail.	JoeyT	Aug 2012	#60
Well, at least she answered the question I've been asking her since April.	SlimJimmy	Aug 2012	#62
Except when she says she was.	zappaman	Aug 2012	#69
I have to agree. If she was talking about someone else, she would have said "he", not I.	SlimJimmy	Aug 2012	#70
Looks like you misunderstood her comment.	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#73
"As a former cop, I get it."	zappaman	Aug 2012	#75
No, you are incorrect and you should delete your misinterpretations of her comment.	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#77
I'm thinking Walter Mitty, not Lara Croft...nt	SidDithers	Aug 2012	#90
Ben Stiller is remaking the movie....but I love the Danny Kaye one.	msanthrope	Aug 2012	#102
Fairly harsh just because someone does not meet your social norms	Riftaxe	Aug 2012	#29
Mark my words. This will be another lone wolf attack	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#32
The sun will rise tomorrow	Riftaxe	Aug 2012	#34
None of us is doing that	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#36
If this shooter had ever attended an Occupy Wall St. protest	99th_Monkey	Aug 2012	#30
Or a member of the Granny's for Peace group.	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#33
You mean the way something like this was buried	DBoon	Aug 2012	#37
Yup	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#38
Oh for fuck sake	Ya Basta	Aug 2012	#39
Yup, because we all know there is zero evidence of the true intent of militias	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#47
Thanks	pintobean	Aug 2012	#48
Just up-thread when you said you'd only been here two days I was gonna ask if	TheManInTheMac	Aug 2012	#52
I thought she seemed like the combative type but wasn't sure because I haven't been here long	Ya Basta	Aug 2012	#56
I don't believe in someone's right that's not part of the military or law enforcement...	Comrade_McKenzie	Aug 2012	#44
Thank you for your enlightenment.	revolution breeze	Aug 2012	#45
I believe we have militia crazies in the military	fascisthunter	Aug 2012	#49
Good point! They finally have to give this issue some MSM time	flamingdem	Aug 2012	#51
Why the rush. No facts yet.	emilyg	Aug 2012	#54
Actually we have a few facts already	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#55
Emily here are more facts	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#63
Nailed it again	malaise	Aug 2012	#65
A "general statement"?	zappaman	Aug 2012	#68
Ah come on, society needs more bigoted gun lovers getting together for fun and politics?	Hoyt	Aug 2012	#83
Well lets just say that unit will not survice contact	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#86
If Timothy McVeigh had a partner, how was he a lone wolf?...nt	SidDithers	Aug 2012	#91
Well Sid...	zappaman	Aug 2012	#93
You missed the point completely. None ever are 'lone wolves', but that is how they are portrayed	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#94
"None ever are 'lone wolves"	zappaman	Aug 2012	#95
Sure, but those who commit murder for political reasons rarely are lone wolves.	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#96
Like today's shooting?	zappaman	Aug 2012	#97
'Acting alone' and 'lone wolf' are two different things. He clearly was not a lone wolf, he had	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#98
"Lone wolf means someone who had no friends"	zappaman	Aug 2012	#100
Try the dictionary for starters ...	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#107
Define 'rarely'	RZM	Aug 2012	#99
And that is her point, which you just made for her.	sabrina 1	Aug 2012	#108
Cue our Rightists to defend their pals. nt	onehandle	Aug 2012	#104
It's kind of ironic that while denouncing these violent lone wolf types	Nuclear Unicorn	Aug 2012	#109
Democracy Now has a great story on this	Taverner	Aug 2012	#110

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