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So Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #1
Well lookie there... 99Forever Aug 2012 #13
Simply making an obvious point Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #50
never fails. barbtries Aug 2012 #101
Cool straw man, bro. rDigital Aug 2012 #158
Get back to me... 99Forever Aug 2012 #159
You dodge rDigital Aug 2012 #164
really? bayareaboy Aug 2012 #15
Well Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #49
And less than a second for a magazine. Or just barely time... TheMadMonk Aug 2012 #103
Good luck on that 20 foot charge. NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #132
Because a Derringer has SO MUCH stopping power. Bake Aug 2012 #138
or a metal framed 7 shot 1911. ileus Aug 2012 #55
ok, now what? Union Scribe Aug 2012 #2
high capacity magazines. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #6
What should the max number of rounds in the least time be allowable? (ie: bullets per second) OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #8
Maybe if the magazines were regulated... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #19
But what's the basis or cut-off point for such legislation? Where is the "line in the sand"? OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #24
+20 Rounds Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #37
Leaving only Virginia Tech style shootings 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #100
for pistols it would be pretty easy; no clips that extend below the grip. dionysus Aug 2012 #73
Mine doesn't and is 12+1 obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #78
Glock 17 holds 17 + 1, also 9mm. Sirveri Aug 2012 #196
So if I own a CZ75B that takes a 12 round MAGAZINE Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #124
If you can't make yourself safe with the first 2 shots, 12 more won't help. TheMadMonk Aug 2012 #108
So basically... every revolver made for the past 200 years has "too many bullets" OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #113
Only if you're the sort of yahoo who ignores advice... TheMadMonk Aug 2012 #144
Modern revolvers are quite safe with "one under the hammer". n/t PavePusher Aug 2012 #150
Modern double action revolvers have drop safeties.. MicaelS Aug 2012 #163
a lot of people forget sweetapogee Aug 2012 #128
80 cents a round? You need to find a better place to buy ammo. Travis_0004 Aug 2012 #157
Wolf is about 25 cents a round right now. PMC bronze 30 cents : ). NT rDigital Aug 2012 #160
there is no point to this discussion unless you are agreeing Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #22
Correct. So what is the determination of "reasonable" OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #26
When Warren Stupidity says reasonable, he really means sensible slackmaster Aug 2012 #29
I mean there can be no discussion of the details if the idea itself is not accepted as Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #59
I would draw the line at 20 rounds hack89 Aug 2012 #62
I think it is high, but it would be a start. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #65
You want to registers hundreds of millions of magazines? Have you considered the cost? hack89 Aug 2012 #74
You register magazine owners and they are responsible for every out of spec magazine they own. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #86
Don't you think regulations have to be grounded in some kind of reality? hack89 Aug 2012 #90
yes they have to be effective. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #96
Registration would never pass Constitutional muster hack89 Aug 2012 #102
we spend 10 billion on fuck all every year. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #105
This will work hack89 Aug 2012 #106
Wow. Marinedem Aug 2012 #121
+ one brazillion (n/t) derby378 Aug 2012 #141
Bravo rDigital Aug 2012 #161
I am OK With That Macoy51 Aug 2012 #197
Just remember you have never been safer. Next year you will be even safer. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #107
I'd place a ban on any handgun mag that extends past the bottom of the grip. Kaleva Aug 2012 #81
sounds reasonable to me. The ban would also have forestall manufactures introducing new Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #87
I think there's a natural limit to how much capacity a "standard" handgun magazine can be. Kaleva Aug 2012 #89
Springfield XDm 9mm holds 19+1 rounds... CZ-75 TS 9mm holds 20+1 OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #116
Actually, the standard is generally 8 rounds for current 1911's... PavePusher Aug 2012 #151
Ah. Things have changed since I was in the Navy. Kaleva Aug 2012 #154
Kel-Tec PMR-30 has 30 round mags rDigital Aug 2012 #162
Firing the .22 WMR, I think its uses are limited even with a 30 round magazine. Kaleva Aug 2012 #168
It really doesn't work that way, in any area of regulation (set guns petronius Aug 2012 #156
so you have not agreed that a reasonable limit on capacity is a good idea. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #57
If the limit is logical and reasonable then yes, a capacity limit may be a good idea. OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #99
even if it's not? NT Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #122
So, let's say you ban extended magazines Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #66
yes it is best to do nothing because doing something might not solve the problem. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #69
I'd rather do nothing than something that has already been proven not to work NT Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #72
Agree, completely. rDigital Aug 2012 #165
so what's the limit? 10? Union Scribe Aug 2012 #91
OK I'll accept a bid of 10 too. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #97
They really want to ban ownership of all firearms, except those used by government employees slackmaster Aug 2012 #28
Hooray... 99Forever Aug 2012 #34
You seem familiar. Why don't you tell us what your real goal is, if I'm wrong? slackmaster Aug 2012 #39
Who is ... 99Forever Aug 2012 #43
Everyone who reads the thread. slackmaster Aug 2012 #44
Your friends over at the NRA... 99Forever Aug 2012 #53
So you speak for "Everyone who reads the thread" now? 99Forever Aug 2012 #56
I'd certainly like to hear your plan NT Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #68
You go first. 99Forever Aug 2012 #76
My plan Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #104
Sorry.. 99Forever Aug 2012 #136
what's your plan? Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #148
Well pal.. 99Forever Aug 2012 #155
You've never read anything from the NRA have you? aikoaiko Aug 2012 #189
You've never read anything, have you? 99Forever Aug 2012 #190
Try to take away existing firearms? Invites a blood bath. No. Ban resale of semiautos and clips. leveymg Aug 2012 #70
The collectors could register as collectors and continue to trade with other collectors. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #98
People have hunted game of all types with semi-auto rifles for about a century. PavePusher Aug 2012 #152
Du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #3
US declares war on US as top killer of Americans revealed to be ‘Americans’ dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #4
The NRA. Homegrown Terrorists. rgbecker Aug 2012 #14
Have I seen you on another forum before? slackmaster Aug 2012 #30
I thougt the Arizona and Aurora shooting used Glocks, not Springfields. ?? OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #5
Colorado and Arizona used Glocks. krispos42 Aug 2012 #21
I believe the criticism in the OP is of semi-automatic handguns in general. Chan790 Aug 2012 #67
Could ban them in public. That is not as extreme as allowing people to walk around in parks, etc. Hoyt Aug 2012 #77
I never thought about that before, but I could actually support a ban on handguns. ieoeja Aug 2012 #82
Yeah, and 4-wheel drive vehicles are the most common choice of people buying SUVs too 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #7
I disagree with the "all shooters are sociopaths" part.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #10
You are correct, I over-stated that part of the case, let us say 'many' instead of "all". 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #11
So let us know.. 99Forever Aug 2012 #16
Or maybe the psychopath took a cab, so should we outlaw cabs? 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #25
You didn't answer the question. 99Forever Aug 2012 #32
There was no relevant question to be answered 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #109
There certainly was. 99Forever Aug 2012 #133
I wish I could really tell you what you are. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #93
Sure you can, go ahead and say it 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #111
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Cars are not meant to kill. They are meant to transport people. TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #48
Yet more people are rDigital Aug 2012 #166
Do you really think that? Zoeisright Aug 2012 #92
My guns have never killed anything. PavePusher Aug 2012 #153
Surprise! "Mass-shooting weapon of choice" is... a gun. sofa king Aug 2012 #9
Semiautomatic is nothing special justanidea Aug 2012 #12
I had a .22 semi-auto rifle as a kid... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #18
I started using semiautomatic rifles decades ago because of an eye problem slackmaster Aug 2012 #31
Yes most of them are ... bayareaboy Aug 2012 #20
When did most 9mm semi autos only hold 7 rounds? justanidea Aug 2012 #60
I have never seen a 9mm only hold seven rounds obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #80
sorry folks ... bayareaboy Aug 2012 #112
I don't know what "spray and pray" is supposed to be obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #115
You know what spray and pray is ... bayareaboy Aug 2012 #146
If 8 was enough why was the M-59 so popular with police? nt hack89 Aug 2012 #123
Possibly because it was the next 9mm ... bayareaboy Aug 2012 #145
Or because it held more rounds. hack89 Aug 2012 #147
The 9mm is the handgun of choice for a lot of people Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #17
Largely because the ammunition is cheap. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2012 #58
It is the most inxepensive defensive round obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #83
It's also the non-mass-shooting weapon of choice. krispos42 Aug 2012 #23
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The Aurora shooter used an Austrian made Glock .40 caliber. The OP is in error. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #35
Did he? 99Forever Aug 2012 #36
You certainly are confused with respect to what really matters slackmaster Aug 2012 #38
But the Gun Cult keeps... 99Forever Aug 2012 #40
Your use of terms like "Gun Cult" and "you fellas" gives your agenda away slackmaster Aug 2012 #42
You keep avoiding the question. 99Forever Aug 2012 #45
You haven't asked me a question. I have only one posting handle on DU. slackmaster Aug 2012 #46
Golly... 99Forever Aug 2012 #51
slackmaster got locked out of this thread for a truly atrocious post. Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #61
I agree that one was over the top NT Trunk Monkey Aug 2012 #71
Color me... 99Forever Aug 2012 #79
The U.S. had a ban on certain types of semi-automatic weapons until 2004 yardwork Aug 2012 #41
The AWB didn't actually ban any firearms though NickB79 Aug 2012 #75
Not really Kaleva Aug 2012 #84
It seems to me that the real issue about gun control panader0 Aug 2012 #47
poly pistols aren't the problem. ileus Aug 2012 #52
That's a good one to start with when we start banning them... Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #54
You appear to have an active fantasy life. hack89 Aug 2012 #63
Ahh, Josh Sugarmann reliving his old role as head of Handgun Control Inc. X_Digger Aug 2012 #64
And you've done ... what ... about this problem? Zoeisright Aug 2012 #94
And yet crime (including crimes with guns) continues to drop.. X_Digger Aug 2012 #95
And yet... bongbong Aug 2012 #127
Had I said that, you'd be right. X_Digger Aug 2012 #129
Good bongbong Aug 2012 #135
So we agree that the 'more guns = more crime' canard is bullshit? X_Digger Aug 2012 #140
Canards bongbong Aug 2012 #169
No correlation means no correlation. X_Digger Aug 2012 #173
Cake bongbong Aug 2012 #177
It disproves your supposed correlation, so I understand why you avoid it. X_Digger Aug 2012 #181
Wow bongbong Aug 2012 #184
All we can say is that more guns did not create more gun violence. hack89 Aug 2012 #131
Still a lie bongbong Aug 2012 #134
No correlation means no correlation. Or are you recanting, now? n/t X_Digger Aug 2012 #142
So let's see your evidence. hack89 Aug 2012 #143
HIlarous bongbong Aug 2012 #170
No - I have never said guns make me safer. hack89 Aug 2012 #171
ask bongbong Aug 2012 #172
Perhaps you need a dictionary.. X_Digger Aug 2012 #174
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Keep tap-dancing. X_Digger Aug 2012 #182
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There is no correlation means it works both ways. That's what you don't get. n/t X_Digger Aug 2012 #187
Show me bongbong Aug 2012 #194
"cause lotsa murders" -- and yet you said there was no correlation?!? LOL!! X_Digger Aug 2012 #195
Of course it is. hack89 Aug 2012 #175
Dense, dense, dense. bongbong Aug 2012 #178
Now you are making a claim - feel free to prove it. "Might've" is not proof. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #179
Slow & Dense bongbong Aug 2012 #185
But you agree that it is impossible to show that guns hack89 Aug 2012 #186
Violence Policy Center as a resource? Remmah2 Aug 2012 #85
Some really industrious NRA PR staffer is probably wondering LanternWaste Aug 2012 #88
I was curious what this Springfield 9mm semiautomatic handgun looked like.. AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #110
That's the compact model the XD Equate Aug 2012 #114
Lot's of people think the XD's are ugly ileus Aug 2012 #119
Boo on the grip safety. nt rDigital Aug 2012 #167
Wow the defenders of teh gunns has descended on here like flies to poop DainBramaged Aug 2012 #117
Solidarity, my freind... solidarity. OneTenthofOnePercent Aug 2012 #118
Whatever floats your magazine.... DainBramaged Aug 2012 #149
The quick-draw and dodge is the experts answer to the approaching bullet. onehandle Aug 2012 #120
I'm glad to see that even you recognize the OP as "poop" aikoaiko Aug 2012 #188
"...said Josh Sugarmann... " Cha-ching. rrneck Aug 2012 #125
Why is it a 'Jesus gun?' RZM Aug 2012 #126
Read it as 'ultimate.' onehandle Aug 2012 #130
I have the solution! Glassunion Aug 2012 #137
And in other news... Glassunion Aug 2012 #139
There is nothing wrong with guns darkangel218 Aug 2012 #176
Wow. Now that is a great example of anti-gun fear mongering aikoaiko Aug 2012 #191
Ignore the gun psychos, onehandle. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #192
I am onehandle ... I mean Spartacus. nt hack89 Aug 2012 #193
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