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Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
6. Power Elites always create their own destructors....
Sun Aug 5, 2012, 03:58 PM
Aug 2012

The parallels with the French Revolution are eerie...


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But the royalists, instead of realizing the significance of these Jacobins with their dangerous integrity and their dangerous grip upon the imagination of the mob, had the conceit to think they could make tools of them. The time for the replacement of the National Assembly under the new-made constitution by the "Legislative Assembly" was drawing near; and when the Jacobins, with the idea of breaking up the moderates, proposed to make the members of the National Assembly ineligible for the Legislative Assembly, the royalists supported them with great glee, and carried the proposal. They perceived that the Legislative Assembly, so clipped of all experience, must certainly be a politically incompetent body. They would "extract good from the excess of evil," and presently France would fall back helpless into the hands of her legitimate masters. So they thought. And the royalists did more than this. They backed the election of a Jacobin as Mayor of Paris. It was about as clever as if a man brought home a hungry tiger to convince his wife of her need of him. There stood another body ready at hand with which these royalists did not reckon, far better equipped than the court to step in and take the place of an ineffective Legislative Assembly, and that was the strongly Jacobin Commune of Paris installed at the Hotel de Ville.

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http://www.oldandsold.com/articles32n/history-line-60.shtml


I said to my wife this morning: "You watch, the Left will storm the Bastille, but the Tea Baggers will construct the guillotines..."
Most gun hobbyists I know Harmony Blue Aug 2012 #1
Why I said it is a very small and chiefly loud and well connected, group nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #3
Indeed Harmony Blue Aug 2012 #13
Hmm..... deaniac21 Aug 2012 #66
For pete's sake! Let the story be told before MineralMan Aug 2012 #2
Why should the OP not offer her opinion on a news story? All anyone not interested has to do sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #67
And why should I not offer my opinion on her OP? MineralMan Aug 2012 #72
But you did not answer the question. You basically took it upon yourself to sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #79
Here's some of the story MNBrewer Aug 2012 #103
why not wait until we find out who the shooter is, he may be militia, maybe not loli phabay Aug 2012 #4
After OKC they had a clear line of connection and responsibitly nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #5
i think that might be due to a thing called laws, its kinda difficult to shut people down who dont loli phabay Aug 2012 #11
Yup, and there is also a fact we are familiar with nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #14
uh, right wing militias have been infiltrated by the feds cali Aug 2012 #17
I think the op is saying the gov't should do more to counter dangerous right-wing hate groups. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #57
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #20
Power Elites always create their own destructors.... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #6
There are also parallels to Te 1917 revolution. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #8
Profound malaise Aug 2012 #18
More French Revolution Parallels.... Junkdrawer Aug 2012 #24
Love that quote you said. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2012 #71
deal with militias in what way? cali Aug 2012 #7
I think it's a Lord of the Rings reference petronius Aug 2012 #16
Ah, thanks. cali Aug 2012 #22
But the report from DHS early malaise Aug 2012 #9
Yup. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #10
exactly how do you mean deal with them, i get concerned with language like that loli phabay Aug 2012 #12
Enjoy the whirlwind nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #15
lol. cali Aug 2012 #19
i was like wtf, no idea what that was about loli phabay Aug 2012 #26
"this is not just about guns... but ... a culture" lunatica Aug 2012 #21
We are at the mercy of the murdering, raging gun freaks.... 99Forever Aug 2012 #23
Is this analysis based on your experiences pintobean Aug 2012 #25
wow. cali Aug 2012 #27
Not my find pintobean Aug 2012 #31
oddly enough, it's not this sort of thing that irritates me so much cali Aug 2012 #35
I just started posting here yesterday and I already noticed that about her too. Ya Basta Aug 2012 #42
WTFF. Brickbat Aug 2012 #28
Don't you love how he ignores it? Pacafishmate Aug 2012 #40
She. pintobean Aug 2012 #43
LOL...Busted! Looks like someone's credibility has just been impeached. Ya Basta Aug 2012 #41
kick pintobean Aug 2012 #46
So. 2ndAmForComputers Aug 2012 #50
That's not troll hunting pintobean Aug 2012 #53
I went to the link. She did not claim to be a cop. Everyone should click through to see limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #58
Not really. She was asked by several people in that thread (including me) to clarify, and she SlimJimmy Aug 2012 #64
It does not need to be clarified. This is nothing but harassment. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #74
No, a person can't click through and see what she was talking about. You are absolutely full of it. SlimJimmy Aug 2012 #84
Don't participate in stalking and harassment. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #87
I asked a legitimate question in the thread and it was ignored for several months. What part of SlimJimmy Aug 2012 #88
Anybody can see the person did not claim to be a former cop. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #89
What part of "I was part of the original thread" do you not get? I asked her *in* that thread SlimJimmy Aug 2012 #101
I get that. She was not claiming to be a former cop. That screenshot is out-of-context harassment. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #105
You keep repeating this as if it's fact. SlimJimmy Aug 2012 #106
It's the same sleazy smear tactic Fox News uses limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #111
I can't make my position any clearer. You simply REFUSE to accept SlimJimmy Aug 2012 #112
Anyone can view the quote in context & judge for themself if the person was claiming to be an ex-cop limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #113
Exactly. She was not referring to herself, but her buddies on that 'other site' naturally sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #76
"As a former cop, I get it" zappaman Aug 2012 #78
You are wrong. Two people have now pointed out to you that you have completely misinterpreted sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #80
The 'former cop' she was referring to, btw, was the one mentioned in the comment she was responding sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #81
I agree, sabrina pinboy3niner Aug 2012 #82
Yes, I noticed that also when I read it which is why I did not think sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #92
As an actual ex-cop, not a pretend one, I took her comments as she wrote them. If, in fact, SlimJimmy Aug 2012 #85
This is stalking and harassment. It's also a lie. limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #59
Because most people won't click through. JoeyT Aug 2012 #61
Reading comprehension fail. JoeyT Aug 2012 #60
Well, at least she answered the question I've been asking her since April. SlimJimmy Aug 2012 #62
Except when she says she was. zappaman Aug 2012 #69
I have to agree. If she was talking about someone else, she would have said "he", not I. SlimJimmy Aug 2012 #70
Looks like you misunderstood her comment. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #73
"As a former cop, I get it." zappaman Aug 2012 #75
No, you are incorrect and you should delete your misinterpretations of her comment. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #77
I'm thinking Walter Mitty, not Lara Croft...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #90
Ben Stiller is remaking the movie....but I love the Danny Kaye one. msanthrope Aug 2012 #102
Fairly harsh just because someone does not meet your social norms Riftaxe Aug 2012 #29
Mark my words. This will be another lone wolf attack nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #32
The sun will rise tomorrow Riftaxe Aug 2012 #34
None of us is doing that nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #36
If this shooter had ever attended an Occupy Wall St. protest 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #30
Or a member of the Granny's for Peace group. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #33
You mean the way something like this was buried DBoon Aug 2012 #37
Yup nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #38
Oh for fuck sake Ya Basta Aug 2012 #39
Yup, because we all know there is zero evidence of the true intent of militias nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #47
Thanks pintobean Aug 2012 #48
Just up-thread when you said you'd only been here two days I was gonna ask if TheManInTheMac Aug 2012 #52
I thought she seemed like the combative type but wasn't sure because I haven't been here long Ya Basta Aug 2012 #56
I don't believe in someone's right that's not part of the military or law enforcement... Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #44
Thank you for your enlightenment. revolution breeze Aug 2012 #45
I believe we have militia crazies in the military fascisthunter Aug 2012 #49
Good point! They finally have to give this issue some MSM time flamingdem Aug 2012 #51
Why the rush. No facts yet. emilyg Aug 2012 #54
Actually we have a few facts already nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #55
Emily here are more facts nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #63
Nailed it again malaise Aug 2012 #65
A "general statement"? zappaman Aug 2012 #68
Ah come on, society needs more bigoted gun lovers getting together for fun and politics? Hoyt Aug 2012 #83
Well lets just say that unit will not survice contact nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #86
If Timothy McVeigh had a partner, how was he a lone wolf?...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #91
Well Sid... zappaman Aug 2012 #93
You missed the point completely. None ever are 'lone wolves', but that is how they are portrayed sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #94
"None ever are 'lone wolves" zappaman Aug 2012 #95
Sure, but those who commit murder for political reasons rarely are lone wolves. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #96
Like today's shooting? zappaman Aug 2012 #97
'Acting alone' and 'lone wolf' are two different things. He clearly was not a lone wolf, he had sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #98
"Lone wolf means someone who had no friends" zappaman Aug 2012 #100
Try the dictionary for starters ... sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #107
Define 'rarely' RZM Aug 2012 #99
And that is her point, which you just made for her. sabrina 1 Aug 2012 #108
Cue our Rightists to defend their pals. nt onehandle Aug 2012 #104
It's kind of ironic that while denouncing these violent lone wolf types Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #109
Democracy Now has a great story on this Taverner Aug 2012 #110
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