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Sat Aug 4, 2012, 11:59 PM

Lex (32,241 posts)

21. Actually, it's far more of a city vs. rural divide more than anything else.

And that makes it impractical for a split into parts.

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I seriously think we are seeing the beginning of America seperating into two or three countries. [View all]	Justice wanted	Aug 2012	OP
I feel the same way, but I feel we're separating evolutionarily.	JaneyVee	Aug 2012	#1
Interesting. As I travel, the people I see do seem very different, region by region	superstring1	Aug 2012	#138
I actually have felt more at home in Europe than I have in certain regions of the U.S.	smirkymonkey	Aug 2012	#182
I've noticed that too, now more so than ever. BTW	RKP5637	Aug 2012	#184
Having lived in several regions of the country,	PatSeg	Aug 2012	#230
Well said, Pat. nt	gateley	Aug 2012	#299
No. Just one big nation in decline because of greed and hate. nt	nanabugg	Aug 2012	#296
Yup, been singing this song and dance for a while	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#2
So the Left Coast can finally become Cascadia?	99th_Monkey	Aug 2012	#37
Seven Nations of North America is a good read	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#40
Always nice to be reminded of the potential upsides	99th_Monkey	Aug 2012	#87
It's old, but one of the first in the modern period to delve into that	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#171
Compared to what other parts? n/t	NEOBuckeye	Aug 2012	#89
Southern California coastal.	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#170
About the Book	canEHdian	Aug 2012	#187
Lemme check, got it in the bookshelf.	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#188
what makes you think a divided US would be any more independent of the banksters than a united	HiPointDem	Aug 2012	#107
Exactly.	RadiationTherapy	Aug 2012	#150
My post was mostly in jest	99th_Monkey	Aug 2012	#271
Ecotopia....from way back.	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#139
I love the USA, but if the "indivisible" becomes divisible,	Aristus	Aug 2012	#173
Please don't leave without taking New England with you.	millijac	Aug 2012	#261
That would be quite a gerrymandering trick	99th_Monkey	Aug 2012	#270
take Cascadia...please	backwoodsbob	Aug 2012	#266
Deal! ~nt	99th_Monkey	Aug 2012	#269
Looking at it another way	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#3
Exactly right.	zentrum	Aug 2012	#44
+1	Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel	Aug 2012	#49
A nuclear-armed Confederacy? F-ck no!	leveymg	Aug 2012	#84
They'll still be on the dole to us, we use that to insist on disarming them.	diane in sf	Aug 2012	#98
Look how hard it is to get them to just give up assault rifles and large volume magazines!	leveymg	Aug 2012	#101
The South is on the dole?	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#145
Blue states	tabasco	Aug 2012	#206
Have you ever noticed...	bvar22	Aug 2012	#242
Shhhhhhhh..once "they" find out it is a paradise down here	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#246
I'm in...	tosh	Aug 2012	#257
Mosquito Coast....	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#268
I've only heard it come from a handfull of people down towards the Ozarks.	xmas74	Aug 2012	#291
but what about the heat!?? How do you stand it?	Auntie Bush	Aug 2012	#294
It ain't the heat, it's the humidity. Sometimes.	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#295
Nonsense, I recently posted just such a claim	demwing	Aug 2012	#281
What is nonsense?	bvar22	Aug 2012	#283
I'm sorry, but your claim was nonsense. You wrote:	demwing	Aug 2012	#292
Anyone can find a mirror.	bvar22	Aug 2012	#318
And some people can be shown a window	demwing	Aug 2012	#319
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!	ncgrits	Aug 2012	#289
Spot on! Thank you.	cordelia	Aug 2012	#297
The "them" and "they" and "us"	cordelia	Aug 2012	#298
Works to the Repubs advantage..the more infighting here	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#308
Or we just close the existing military bases in the South and let them have their own nation. This	jwirr	Aug 2012	#194
True, look for humans in North America and elsewhere to clamp down on them, as with Iran	superstring1	Aug 2012	#140
We would kick their asses. Again.	smirkymonkey	Aug 2012	#190
I like the alternative-history subgenre	liberalhistorian	Aug 2012	#312
I agree, we can use our blue money to make them behave	diane in sf	Aug 2012	#96
Didn't take long for the South bashing to begin.	cordelia	Aug 2012	#119
How is Posting FACTS bashing????	ChickFullofHate	Aug 2012	#122
Facts?	cordelia	Aug 2012	#124
That's right!	EastTennesseeDem	Aug 2012	#262
Maybe just awareness -- not being in denial	superstring1	Aug 2012	#141
oh really? mighty broad brush you paint with. oklahoma? michigan? arizona? wyoming?	spanone	Aug 2012	#134
The South is NOT a uniform collection of mouth breathers, you DO know that, right?	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#142
+10,000	smirkymonkey	Aug 2012	#185
Maybe you should stop believing in stereotypes and you wouldn't be so scared.	Fawke Em	Aug 2012	#214
Sigh...	Fawke Em	Aug 2012	#211
it's interesting because i was watching "the revolution" on netflix	ejpoeta	Aug 2012	#121
If you want another perspective,	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#146
i will have to look for it. i bet that's an interesting perspective! thanks!	ejpoeta	Aug 2012	#313
There has been a divide since the Civil War, or the	Jawja	Aug 2012	#143
Key word, "Ancestors."	Fawke Em	Aug 2012	#216
Grew up in Alabama	ThoughtCriminal	Aug 2012	#273
That, is an excellent way of putting it !!! n/t	RKP5637	Aug 2012	#191
Naaah. I don't see that at all.	MADem	Aug 2012	#4
A lot of us see that in the not very distant future.	braddy	Aug 2012	#5
I look forward to it.	Zalatix	Aug 2012	#6
As much as I'd really like to see these ass-clowns secede to their own little right wing rat holes,	meanit	Aug 2012	#19
I appreciate the beliefs of a united America, but it is as impractical as a united world.	Zalatix	Aug 2012	#45
"The Confederates"????????	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#149
That response is sarcasm, right?	Zalatix	Aug 2012	#157
I am not ignorant of Republicans down here	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#177
Historical note of support for you. C. Vann Woodward (in "The Strange Career	coalition_unwilling	Aug 2012	#210
Yes, was aware of that.	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#223
They tend to overlook LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Gore	mentalsolstice	Aug 2012	#251
Historical Note, The south didn't need Jim Crow laws to control people who were still slaves	Progressive dog	Aug 2012	#280
Jeez, this really isn't a case of the 'he did it too' argument 'from the south.' (I live in	coalition_unwilling	Aug 2012	#311
There are those who see the world as binary, with a razor sharp dividing line between the two halves	cherokeeprogressive	Aug 2012	#250
Gee, how can we unite to defeat Republicans	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#253
The US government doesn't have the wherewithal to move ANY group to a geographical location they	cherokeeprogressive	Aug 2012	#76
You're totally distorting what I said. I said nothing about forced relocations, nothing whatsoever.	Zalatix	Aug 2012	#92
NO REASON for Conservatives to live in Liberal America - Money Quote	ChickFullofHate	Aug 2012	#100
"Kim Jong Un with a mullet and southern accent"	Earth Bound Misfit	Aug 2012	#103
Picture me, laughing myself blue. I nominate that one for a DUZy.	Zalatix	Aug 2012	#112
Yep. Build a fence. Strict border control. Ship illegals out.	superstring1	Aug 2012	#144
You do realize some of us liberal Southerners stay for a variety of reasons, right?	Fawke Em	Aug 2012	#222
+++++++++	cherokeeprogressive	Aug 2012	#240
Hey. F#@k that. Said with a SOUTHERN accent.	ncgrits	Aug 2012	#290
Bullshit. Read the first sentence of your post.	cherokeeprogressive	Aug 2012	#208
Oh for the love of God, seriously?	Zalatix	Aug 2012	#215
Distorting what you said?	enlightenment	Aug 2012	#212
Shit, I've seen equivocations here that would make 16th-Century	coalition_unwilling	Aug 2012	#220
Perhaps economics plays a bigger factor	KansDem	Aug 2012	#151
Kansas is changing drastically IMO. Often i wonder too if more	RKP5637	Aug 2012	#199
I left Kansas four years ago.	SheilaT	Aug 2012	#244
Yep, I'm realizing that more and more that no place seems perfect, and	RKP5637	Aug 2012	#288
I think Kansas has been pretty conservative for quite a long time. Brown vs. Topeka, after all,	coalition_unwilling	Aug 2012	#225
I grew up in Long Beach...	KansDem	Aug 2012	#272
"I think Kansas has been pretty conservative for quite a long time."	KansDem	Aug 2012	#274
I suspect we may stay united in some type of military alliance for safeties sake. It is the goals of	jwirr	Aug 2012	#207
The red states can't make it on their own. They get too many Federal dollars	Lex	Aug 2012	#7
Yes.	zentrum	Aug 2012	#47
How much per capita do the red and blue states get?	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#152
Here's the facts on that. And relax, 'red States' are spread around much of the nation, West	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2012	#158
I was replying to a poster who made the assertion	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#175
I know you feel that it was south bashing	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#178
What cultural differences?	Fawke Em	Aug 2012	#226
For instance the value of things like ecological preservation	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#231
Yes, an interesting question	JNelson6563	Aug 2012	#163
According to the maps	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#183
The map categories are very broad	Ednahilda	Aug 2012	#205
No, Alabama takes back $1.62 for every $1 of tax paid.	Son of Gob	Aug 2012	#277
Read the numbers at the bottom	jeff47	Aug 2012	#316
Outstanding graphic!	CrispyQ	Aug 2012	#195
pls see the map in post 163.	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#186
I'm not sure you read the bottom of that map correctly.	Son of Gob	Aug 2012	#279
Perhaps there is merit to dividing the USA.	SDjack	Aug 2012	#8
I do not believe that is happening.	Tx4obama	Aug 2012	#9
Who is Governor there?	Zalatix	Aug 2012	#46
Texas will be purple in a generation	demwing	Aug 2012	#181
I wonder if eventually international corporations take the place of nations	aint_no_life_nowhere	Aug 2012	#10
You ever read "Snow Crash" by Neil Stephenson?	XemaSab	Aug 2012	#15
That's exactly what I was thinking of.	white_wolf	Aug 2012	#26
What is it about? Not in a position to get books easily - even from the library which is ten miles.	jwirr	Aug 2012	#217
Here's the Wiki piece on it	gateley	Aug 2012	#306
Thank you.	jwirr	Aug 2012	#320
Add to your list "The Unincorporated Man."	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#41
And the original "Rollerball," starring James Caan. Masterful.	Bette Noir	Aug 2012	#72
Thanks for the reference	Bragi	Aug 2012	#162
Yes. Great book!	gateley	Aug 2012	#305
Makes me think of "He, She and It" by Marge Piercy	suffragette	Aug 2012	#203
Lots of people hope it'll happen, but I don't think it's logistical.	tridim	Aug 2012	#11
+1,000,000	Tom Ripley	Aug 2012	#51
Some DUers have longed for anarchy forever	JNelson6563	Aug 2012	#164
Can i please be part of where DU is going to be?	darkangel218	Aug 2012	#12
+++ 1,000 +++ Same Here! n/t	RKP5637	Aug 2012	#63
Why? We've been through much worse. Seriously. Get a grip.	Edweird	Aug 2012	#13
I'm sorry I see the hate and just craziness and that professors words keep echoing in my mind.	Justice wanted	Aug 2012	#55
Yeah, not a big history buff are ya?	Edweird	Aug 2012	#130
Who would keep the south afloat?	chknltl	Aug 2012	#14
If Texas secedes, who keeps Mexico from annexing it?	Bette Noir	Aug 2012	#73
I suspect the good citizens of the country of Texas might have a say.	chknltl	Aug 2012	#97
One supposes the Texans can take take of themselves...	KansDem	Aug 2012	#125
Who cares?	superstring1	Aug 2012	#135
Well, Mexico has enough problems to even think about it	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#180
They would never do that. That would mean that the Palin family would have to become	smirkymonkey	Aug 2012	#198
I can see five:	Chipper Chat	Aug 2012	#16
Im going to be part of gulfica :)	darkangel218	Aug 2012	#24
Nah.	Chipper Chat	Aug 2012	#25
:p	darkangel218	Aug 2012	#28
Coors is loaded with beaver piss. I have been to the headwaters and saw it for my self. nt	SDjack	Aug 2012	#123
That is so not true!	darkangel218	Aug 2012	#153
No. Thats not true.	bvar22	Aug 2012	#258
I agree.	Blue_In_AK	Aug 2012	#35
South Manitoba, please.	MNBrewer	Aug 2012	#43
Adorable. You see Florida ruling Puerto Rico and Cuba.	aquart	Aug 2012	#66
what about NY and NJ?	Sanity Claws	Aug 2012	#110
I believe NJ, MD, Del DoC, Pa and NY is included in what Chipper Chat describes	Fla Dem	Aug 2012	#160
Yes, I like Atlantica too and we would probably include New England since we	smirkymonkey	Aug 2012	#201
mormanica is totally going to be drug cartel territory	BOG PERSON	Aug 2012	#224
I call your 5 and raise you 4 more	demwing	Aug 2012	#248
There is no country that will form that will	tabasco	Aug 2012	#275
Gullfucka - LoL	Chipper Chat	Aug 2012	#285
Very interesting....... A Russian economist saw the USA breaking up into 4 or 5 "countries'. This	firenewt	Aug 2012	#17
I have wondered the same thing more than once.	cbrer	Aug 2012	#18
The seperation is not along geographical lines	johnd83	Aug 2012	#20
Actually, it's far more of a city vs. rural divide more than anything else.	Lex	Aug 2012	#21
No, it isn't city/country	johnd83	Aug 2012	#23
Sorry, my friend, you're wrong	Lex	Aug 2012	#31
But it's conservative only fiscal....	WCGreen	Aug 2012	#56
I had a recent discussion with one of those.	Warren Stupidity	Aug 2012	#118
:(	darkangel218	Aug 2012	#22
There is also no way our military and MIC would allow the country to break up	johnd83	Aug 2012	#27
This ^^^	kentauros	Aug 2012	#317
Not going to happen - we fought our bloodiest war over this.	Pirate Smile	Aug 2012	#29
Brandeis University History Professor David Hackett Fischer suggests four distint countries	Brother Buzz	Aug 2012	#30
Excuse me? The Southwest has Spanish/Mexican roots, not British.	Bette Noir	Aug 2012	#77
Albion's Seed mostly deals with the English seed	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#169
Yeah, I love when people refer to Los Angeles as a late comer to American history..	left coaster	Aug 2012	#202
No, he does not. Albion's Seed does not suggest the making of new natons at all	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2012	#165
Alaska should be part of Canada.	Blue_In_AK	Aug 2012	#32
You just want their health care.	Bette Noir	Aug 2012	#78
Well, yeah, there's that,	Blue_In_AK	Aug 2012	#94
But politically Alaska is very different from Canada, why is that?	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2012	#172
We did elect a democrat to the Senate last time around, Mark Begich,	Blue_In_AK	Aug 2012	#256
Right on Bette.	sarcasmo	Aug 2012	#131
ONLY after it's put to a vote. n/t	cherokeeprogressive	Aug 2012	#85
No. We bought that land fair and square from Russia.	JVS	Aug 2012	#137
Most of it does.	Blue_In_AK	Aug 2012	#254
Canada wouldn't want Alaska as long as Sarah Palin still lived ther. n/t	Fla Dem	Aug 2012	#161
We don't know where she is.	Blue_In_AK	Aug 2012	#255
bad as it seems it's nothing compared to the way the u.s. was throughout the 1800s.	unblock	Aug 2012	#33
We already had a civil war /nt	still_one	Aug 2012	#34
Up here in Oregon, Washington & B.C., the Cascadia Independence movement...	Speck Tater	Aug 2012	#36
I think Cascadia could take Southeast Alaska (the Panhandle)	Blue_In_AK	Aug 2012	#39
From San Francisco to Juneau.	Comrade Grumpy	Aug 2012	#57
Yes, Juneau is a liberal little bastion down there in Southeast	Blue_In_AK	Aug 2012	#95
Gosh, how brilliantly successful it's been.	aquart	Aug 2012	#68
That would require people working together and making sacrifices - fat chance.	jtuck004	Aug 2012	#38
There have always been forces for separation, from the very beginning	bhikkhu	Aug 2012	#42
Yep.	aquart	Aug 2012	#71
Nnnnnnope.	cherokeeprogressive	Aug 2012	#48
IT MUST NOT BE ALLOWED!!!!	The Traveler	Aug 2012	#50
Nobody said "kicking out the South", they left on their own last time	just1voice	Aug 2012	#70
Have a plebiscite. Honor the vote. Use the dissolution model of Czechoslovakia.	SDjack	Aug 2012	#154
Here's the dividing line, dating back to the 1820 Missouri Compromise	just1voice	Aug 2012	#52
That is the approximate northern limit of malaria-carrying mosquitoes	bhikkhu	Aug 2012	#58
Sadly, that was a factor in slavery	just1voice	Aug 2012	#88
Sometimes...	mzteris	Aug 2012	#53
Well shit, 200 years from now who the hell knows what the world will look like...	Drunken Irishman	Aug 2012	#54
I see the following scenario happening.	airplaneman	Aug 2012	#59
You know, I was thinking about that earlier today, was thinking of	RKP5637	Aug 2012	#60
Oh, what nonsense. And it's separate.	aquart	Aug 2012	#61
Read some history, starting with the Missouri Compromise and then the Civil War	just1voice	Aug 2012	#65
+1 nt	Codeine	Aug 2012	#218
It is not hysteria, more and more SERIOUS people are talking about it	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#243
NM will have to rejoin Mexico	Warpy	Aug 2012	#62
No you stay with us Colorado folks.	DevonRex	Aug 2012	#282
Nah, Colorado would probably join Mexico with us	Warpy	Aug 2012	#287
Beware of Dominionists!	YOHABLO	Aug 2012	#64
+1	TrogL	Aug 2012	#315
Free Vermont!!!	limpyhobbler	Aug 2012	#67
Here is how it will look ;)	Yeah Its Spin	Aug 2012	#69
Very interesting. I would have thought there would have been more protestant denominations	smirkymonkey	Aug 2012	#209
That map can be deceiving	Art_from_Ark	Aug 2012	#314
Won't happen	BBGC	Aug 2012	#74
Oh My	Yeah Its Spin	Aug 2012	#81
Yes, I am	BBGC	Aug 2012	#228
That the riots won't start until we lose cable and The Colonel's food, I suspect is true.	jtuck004	Aug 2012	#99
As always, your comments are	dixiegrrrrl	Aug 2012	#197
""The vast majority of people have the intellectual capacity of a goldfish."	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2012	#179
This message was self-deleted by its author	BBGC	Aug 2012	#232
You know....	BBGC	Aug 2012	#235
People should read about what was happening between Missouri & Kansas	Pirate Smile	Aug 2012	#75
silly stuff. silly season.	cali	Aug 2012	#79
This post was hidden by jury decision.	Tommyto	Aug 2012	#80
As long as we have open borders, I don't really care.	Nye Bevan	Aug 2012	#82
You make a good point, but I imagine the fervor that would go with creating new countries	pampango	Aug 2012	#111
No sense in starting a new country	NoPasaran	Aug 2012	#241
Well, lets think about his for a second.	Incitatus	Aug 2012	#83
One of them is the Duchy Of Grand Fenwick.	Kablooie	Aug 2012	#86
Can it be divided up into 300,000,000?	Trillo	Aug 2012	#90
Our biggest divide in this country is uberwealthy vs. everyone else.	Marr	Aug 2012	#91
+1.	HiPointDem	Aug 2012	#106
I agree but I don't think people see it the way they should -	TBF	Aug 2012	#159
+1	leftstreet	Aug 2012	#237
+10000 ...Yes, and the wealthy	woo me with science	Aug 2012	#302
Oddly enough, the Washington Monthly talked about this in July	agentS	Aug 2012	#93
It is in the air	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#196
Why a divided America is in our future - Ask yourself this question first	ChickFullofHate	Aug 2012	#102
Yes, but the values of Vermont are not so different	cali	Aug 2012	#104
A common language?????	ChickFullofHate	Aug 2012	#105
yes, sweetie, a common language.	cali	Aug 2012	#108
We might be one country today but I am going to endeavor	ChickFullofHate	Aug 2012	#109
lol. so you think you can change us from a union	cali	Aug 2012	#114
I wish I had that power to do it myself	ChickFullofHate	Aug 2012	#120
wow--your screen name fits	zazen	Aug 2012	#127
Anger can be power if one knows how it use it	ChickFullofHate	Aug 2012	#129
"ChickFullofHate" Great DU Name?	NoPasaran	Aug 2012	#238
"Ole Dubya" was born in Connecticut and edumacated at Yale	NoPasaran	Aug 2012	#116
My goodness...	Ishoutandscream2	Aug 2012	#174
Since I'm an actual Southerner and not the stereotype you have bought into...	Fawke Em	Aug 2012	#234
All the friction between us	Shankapotomus	Aug 2012	#113
Your armed forces are fully unified, so it won't happen	muriel_volestrangler	Aug 2012	#115
Not a chance. Apocalyptic fantasy.	randome	Aug 2012	#117
We're back to the threat of the country fracturing and the parts making war on each other.	no_hypocrisy	Aug 2012	#126
At least California should split into two.	Vattel	Aug 2012	#128
Well the south sticks together then they can have their religion and what they	southernyankeebelle	Aug 2012	#132
Or we are seeing a national party forced to conform to anti-federalist rhetoric	HereSince1628	Aug 2012	#133
Agree. In fact, given an existing situation that won't change, I like it	superstring1	Aug 2012	#136
The actual geographic divide is overwhelmingly rural versus urban	Douglas Carpenter	Aug 2012	#147
The Northeast is pretty damn blue	cali	Aug 2012	#148
A national precinct map would even show the point stronger.	Douglas Carpenter	Aug 2012	#156
If you could get a map divided by city/county, you'd see even more speckles.	Fawke Em	Aug 2012	#239
Agreed.	Baitball Blogger	Aug 2012	#155
This morning on the local news they were	Skidmore	Aug 2012	#166
Minnesota has been trheatening to secede to Canada for generations. n/t	kickysnana	Aug 2012	#167
I'm sorry but the posts here about splitting up America	d_r	Aug 2012	#168
Sadly, there's a large contingent here at DU	Ishoutandscream2	Aug 2012	#176
Agreed. Believing the country can split up is a 'simpler' solution...	randome	Aug 2012	#192
yes it is	d_r	Aug 2012	#219
I suspect there is one difference. Most of us are asking if it will happen not wishing for it.	jwirr	Aug 2012	#221
My state's pretty damn blue	cali	Aug 2012	#252
a split could only occur if people in a definable geographic area believed that they were going to	Douglas Carpenter	Aug 2012	#189
Nothing lasts forever. NOTHING.	Curtland1015	Aug 2012	#193
Sign me up. Where do I sign up? Please, please, sign me up now.	Zorra	Aug 2012	#200
That is utopia	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#204
I see no other reason to split the country other than to get rid of conservatives.	Zorra	Aug 2012	#259
Congratulations in engaging in the same eliminationist rethoric they do	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#260
Thank you! Excellent news that conservatives want to split also.	Zorra	Aug 2012	#309
Religion, ethnicity	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#310
Me too. I'd be happy to secede.	tblue	Aug 2012	#229
Wow this is a long thread	BootinUp	Aug 2012	#213
The factions are at each others throats and bullying is a big factor.	Lint Head	Aug 2012	#227
...AND you can find them in every geographical part of the US.	bvar22	Aug 2012	#263
There is no sigle united American culture or ethnicity.	Odin2005	Aug 2012	#233
We are not enemies, but friends.	NoPasaran	Aug 2012	#236
The South is beautiful,	bvar22	Aug 2012	#245
The book I wish everyone would read is	SheilaT	Aug 2012	#247
I have... and it is Toynbee for the American people	nadinbrzezinski	Aug 2012	#265
Generations and Fourth Turning	kurt_cagle	Aug 2012	#286
The stupidity never ends...	cherokeeprogressive	Aug 2012	#249
This is just creative speculation, Cherokee.	Blue_In_AK	Aug 2012	#264
Unlikely to happen	4th law of robotics	Aug 2012	#267
Gotta love ideas like this, they always get the same responses	just1voice	Aug 2012	#276
What we are seeing is a country evolving	lunatica	Aug 2012	#278
Breakup	kurt_cagle	Aug 2012	#284
I think the fantasy is more of a wishful thinking method of being rid of	TheKentuckian	Aug 2012	#293
Dude,where's my car?	deaniac21	Aug 2012	#300
Better Off without 'Em: A Northern Manifesto for Southern Secession	Ian David	Aug 2012	#301
And what else could this professor of yours tell you about this country in the year 2150?	onenote	Aug 2012	#303
I knew 2150 rang a bell.	Nye Bevan	Aug 2012	#304
100 - 150 years is a very long time.	SnohoDem	Aug 2012	#307

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