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X_Digger

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80. As I stated above, this law is an over-reaction.

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:18 PM

Aug 2012

I don't believe it would stand up to constitutional muster, no. But I also don't agree with doctors refusing care based on not answering questions about which rights they exercise.

I think it was a great big 'fuck you' to the AAP, after they jumped into the political fray regarding gun control.

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STAY THE FUCK OUT OF THE DOCTORS OFFICE!!!!!!!!!!! [View all] lilithsrevenge12 Aug 2012 OP

If it's any consolation, Florida is a daily reminder of what will befall the USA if the RepubliKKKan byeya Aug 2012 #1

Doctor- patient privacy? Doc can ask, you don't have to answer. What if you are mentally nanabugg Aug 2012 #56

Global warming will fix it soon ... nt bemildred Aug 2012 #2

Florida. A thin layer of swiss cheese floating on a ocean soaked swamp. onehandle Aug 2012 #19

if Fukishima does not do it first. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #89

Clearly unconstitutional mysuzuki2 Aug 2012 #3

This may be where everybody starts to hate me... DLine Aug 2012 #4

What about the slippery slope argument? Aren't you afraid you'll be prevented from asking... Scuba Aug 2012 #8

I edited the post... DLine Aug 2012 #10

Fair enough, though I'll point out that having a firearm is a health risk and physician... Scuba Aug 2012 #12

Having a pencil is a health risk. whistler162 Aug 2012 #32

Get Back To Us When There's A National Pencil Association...... Paladin Aug 2012 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author Mojorabbit Aug 2012 #92

The slippery slope argument is inherently broken by definition, so why be governed by it? (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #17

What doctor would ask you that in the first place? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #11

Someone who has shoulder problems? loyalsister Aug 2012 #25

A doctor isn't going to turn someone in for firing a gun. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #27

That's what I'm saying loyalsister Aug 2012 #48

Pediatricians tend to ask parents about it. They also ask about swimming pools. Patiod Aug 2012 #41

My aunt was married to a man who they wish would have thought about it loyalsister Aug 2012 #54

A Florida pediatrician "fired" a patient... MicaelS Aug 2012 #62

That doctor was obviously a nut. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #66

valid question if the patient is suicidal... dionysus Aug 2012 #76

Very true. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #87

Go to the CDC and look at the stats nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #14

This law was in response to an Ocala physician refusing to continue treating a child.. X_Digger Aug 2012 #23

You can always say "none of your business" Patiod Aug 2012 #40

If you say that to a doctor, they can end the intake and instruct you to find another doctor. aikoaiko Aug 2012 #73

First of all, I ALWAYS hated you... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #46

Perhaps he wants to make sure you are aware... Marrah_G Aug 2012 #59

And there is nothing stopping her/him from doing so.... PavePusher Aug 2012 #106

What if you're suffering from depression and suicidal thoughts? Hugabear Aug 2012 #74

Research public health dangers. Guns are there. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #82

Perhaps if one is suffering from hearing loss Hippo_Tron Aug 2012 #104

If I go to the doctor HappyMe Aug 2012 #5

Would that change if you go to the doctor with depression? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #15

Not even then. HappyMe Aug 2012 #18

Have you ever taken a look at the statistics nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #33

They would have to ask about HappyMe Aug 2012 #35

Actually, in depression situations, they do nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #38

I don't own a gun, dear. HappyMe Aug 2012 #42

But you also wrote not even in depression nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #49

It's generally not about GP's, it's more about pediatricians. X_Digger Aug 2012 #51

You know I was so glad to practice medicine nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #61

Please remove your fingers.. X_Digger Aug 2012 #64

And a doctor is free and clear to say that nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #65

And a doctor refusing to treat a woman because she won't tell him if she's sexually active? X_Digger Aug 2012 #68

Actually there is a reason why doctors do this in the US nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #71

Boy you like to put your fingers in others' mouths, don't you? X_Digger Aug 2012 #77

It is like talking to the wall nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #79

Feel free to shut your eyes to things that don't match your preconceptions. X_Digger Aug 2012 #81

Refusal to agree with you is a sign of insanity? Wow, you really *were* a doctor! friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #91

Not quite, but ignorance is rife nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #93

Doctor has no business asking that anyway kctim Aug 2012 #6

Even if you're a new parent? Patiod Aug 2012 #43

Not even if you are a ANYTHING kctim Aug 2012 #69

Sure they are. And nothing is stopping the doc from offering safety info on any subject. PavePusher Aug 2012 #108

A friend of mine Turbineguy Aug 2012 #7

The ignorance. It burns. Bertha Venation Aug 2012 #9

I can't even get my eyeglass prescription over the phone FloridaJudy Aug 2012 #29

And at the same time FL has the easiest concealed carry laws in the country. hobbit709 Aug 2012 #13

Shhh, you will get the ire of a few Floridians nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #16

No... greytdemocrat Aug 2012 #37

No they don't twizzler Aug 2012 #50

Factual accuracy is optional for gun control advocates... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #85

Actually, no they don't. PavePusher Aug 2012 #109

I was talking about the irony of the two different laws. hobbit709 Aug 2012 #110

Yes, it's often called a "non-resident permit".... PavePusher Aug 2012 #111

For some people I have to continue to use this-otherwise it just sails right by. hobbit709 Aug 2012 #112

O.K., my apology. PavePusher Aug 2012 #115

No reason you can't tell the doctor it's none of his/her business, is there? eShirl Aug 2012 #20

One patient did just that, and the pediatrician told them to find a new doctor. n/t X_Digger Aug 2012 #24

Why treat a patient who won't cooperate? Fumesucker Aug 2012 #31

Nice slide there.. X_Digger Aug 2012 #36

Almost everyone has poisons in the home, a lot of household products are toxic if ingested.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #52

Then they could say, "If you have any guns in your home, here's a pamphlet on best practices.. X_Digger Aug 2012 #57

But I bet they still ask about your storage of chemical products.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #60

Then the pediatrician can read the pamphlet to them. X_Digger Aug 2012 #63

So you don't have any 1st Amendment quibbles with this law? Fumesucker Aug 2012 #78

As I stated above, this law is an over-reaction. X_Digger Aug 2012 #80

If a doctor refused to see me as a patient because I refused to consent to his prying Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #90

I thought the law was about guns? Fumesucker Aug 2012 #95

Principles Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #96

A pediatrician is not a representative of the government.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #97

OK, so the doctor is not part of the government Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #98

You have the right to tell them to mind their own business.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #99

There are countless ways to shorten your life. How many should be covered in a 30 minute Dr. visit? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #100

You are not *required* to reveal anything.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #101

Absolutely true Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #102

Anyone not associated with the government can ask you anything.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #103

So employers can demand to know who an employee will vote for Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #105

You've convinced me.. Fumesucker Aug 2012 #107

An interrogative is not an interrogation JHB Aug 2012 #21

Asking about guns FloridaJudy Aug 2012 #22

Thank you Judy - precisely rightq Patiod Aug 2012 #44

My kid just had her physical. xmas74 Aug 2012 #53

Grossly unconstitutional. It will never survive hifiguy Aug 2012 #26

Well you can always come and stay with me in Arizona - I'll make you learn to love Florida :) jillan Aug 2012 #28

du rec. nt xchrom Aug 2012 #30

Do doctors have right to ask HockeyMom Aug 2012 #34

The last thing they want is an irate patient B Calm Aug 2012 #39

and I thought my state was bad! xmas74 Aug 2012 #45

I'm not familiar with this "Firearm Owners' Privacy Act" but from first reading about it here, it midnight Aug 2012 #47

We got a WINNAH nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #67

Excellent point. Lucy Goosey Aug 2012 #72

I'm guessing a lot of the supporters of this law don't believe in women's privacy Patiod Aug 2012 #94

Ggggh! Daemonaquila Aug 2012 #55

Its a bad law, but it is equally as bad for a dr to discontinue service over privacy issues aikoaiko Aug 2012 #70

Just one of many reasons the NRA can kiss my ass Hugabear Aug 2012 #75

Sigh. We FINALLY got the GD forum back from the gun arguments. So it begins again n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #83

Simple. Lie about it. Bake Aug 2012 #84

I'd prefer an education campaign to a law. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2012 #86

Health professionals ask weird questions sometimes GOTV Aug 2012 #88

It's a standard question FloridaJudy Aug 2012 #113

Yeah, I didn't really think I was being singled out and to be fair ... GOTV Aug 2012 #114

Our pediatrician was asking this question in Illinois WCIL Aug 2012 #116

There are no good reasons for preventing doctors asking anything for this simple reason... sibelian Aug 2012 #117