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Hippo_Tron

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67. Because for the past half century we've been the world's stabilizing force
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:53 PM
Aug 2012

After the major powers of the world were decimated by World War II, save for US and the USSR, the world turned to us for protection and stability. And we obliged and provided that protection and stability.

Now that the Cold War is over and there are other nations out there who have rebuilt there military forces back up, I agree that it's time to re-examine our commitment to being the world's peacekeeper. But old habits die hard and often we pick up the slack for fear that somebody else will not.

So now we're going into Syria [View all] MadHound Aug 2012 OP
Well then again trumad Aug 2012 #1
So instead of Assad kill them, we can. MadHound Aug 2012 #2
Uhhh--- we won't have boots on the ground in Syria. trumad Aug 2012 #4
Didn't have boots on the ground in Iraq for ten years, MadHound Aug 2012 #5
OK---if you're OK with Assa killing his own people... trumad Aug 2012 #12
Some despot somewhere is always killing his or her own people, MadHound Aug 2012 #24
i have never found the arely staircase Aug 2012 #35
I think that you're missing my point MadHound Aug 2012 #41
so if we do nothing that will stop the fighting? it hasn't so far. nt arely staircase Aug 2012 #44
By what right can we interfere? MadHound Aug 2012 #46
France interfered in our revolutionary war. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #53
Much like we do, France interfered for their own interests, MadHound Aug 2012 #77
Know your history. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #85
I don't rely on Wikipedia, that's why I know my history. MadHound Aug 2012 #87
We'll, since this is the internet I can pretty much UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #94
No, don't teach it, MadHound Aug 2012 #97
You said France had little to do with our revolution. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #103
Both countries also interfered in our civil war. nt stevenleser Aug 2012 #175
if it had brought the war to a quicker end, preserved the union and gotten rid of slavery, arely staircase Aug 2012 #69
You obviously don't know your history, MadHound Aug 2012 #76
france was certainly in the picture arely staircase Aug 2012 #78
It's the oil: we must keep our grip on the ME no matter what the cost, because oil is our lifeblood NickB79 Aug 2012 #149
You know, it's going to come out that casualties went up after Obama signed off on this, don't you? leveymg Aug 2012 #88
Oh yes, I am sure it will be a Romney campaign tactic to say Obama is too forceful of a CINC. stevenleser Aug 2012 #176
I'm sure it won't be, Steven. leveymg Aug 2012 #178
Oh and BTW: trumad Aug 2012 #13
Your status as a vet has no bearing on this question, MadHound Aug 2012 #25
Its a very valid point. Servicepeople would much rather drones get shot at instead of them. nt stevenleser Aug 2012 #177
As a Vet myself atreides1 Aug 2012 #96
We're not the world's policemen. area51 Aug 2012 #8
he's been in power for 12 years, & his father before him. it's a wonder there are any people left HiPointDem Aug 2012 #110
shhhh Enrique Aug 2012 #3
Obama did a good thing harun Aug 2012 #6
First of all, fighting for peace is oxymoronic MadHound Aug 2012 #7
All people have a right to defend themselves, it is a basic human right harun Aug 2012 #14
The United States isn't being attacked by Syria, so our aggression can't be styled "self defense". Romulox Aug 2012 #16
i think he was refering to the syrian people arely staircase Aug 2012 #38
This thread is about *US involvement* in Syria's conflict. nt Romulox Aug 2012 #107
The United States isn't attacking anyone in Syria. harun Aug 2012 #170
Then, by definition, the US isn't involved in "self defense" in Syria. It was a gaffe to mention it. Romulox Aug 2012 #171
I was talking about the rebels right to self defense. harun Aug 2012 #172
Right, but this thread is about *US INVOLVEMENT* in that conflict. By definition, "not self defense" Romulox Aug 2012 #174
Fighting of peace may be oxymoronic Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #26
So why are we the ones who are going in? MadHound Aug 2012 #28
If you read the article... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #32
And meanwhile, people are dying on our streets here at home MadHound Aug 2012 #36
I think the Syrian people would disagree with you. Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #39
Yes, establish a religious law that says to kill Americans, MadHound Aug 2012 #43
And because all Arabs think alike and act alike, we can predict the results... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #56
What racism? MadHound Aug 2012 #68
Still yours... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #74
I'm not the one lumping two disparate people into the same category, MadHound Aug 2012 #81
Uh... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #93
Wow, you are getting desperate, MadHound Aug 2012 #100
I can see... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #108
why use Afghanistan as the example when Libya is probably a closer comparison? arely staircase Aug 2012 #150
We intentionally funded the craziest people we could find UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #58
Did Kosovo or Libya turn into another Vietnam? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #57
kosovo, a mafia-run state with 45% unemployment & growing radical islam, another great success HiPointDem Aug 2012 #182
You might as well just go ahead and say it. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #183
which part do you deny, mafia-run, unemployment figures, influence of radical islam, or color HiPointDem Aug 2012 #184
When you have a population that has been UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #186
if the 'murderous dictator' you're talking about is milosevic, he was in power 11 years, 8 as pres HiPointDem Aug 2012 #187
Did you think Clinton was right in not helping Rwanda? Whisp Aug 2012 #33
And again, where was the rest of the world? MadHound Aug 2012 #37
how about WW2, would you have got involved if you called the shots? Whisp Aug 2012 #40
In WWII we were attacked, MadHound Aug 2012 #42
you mean We as America? Whisp Aug 2012 #59
What About Germany? Liberal_Dog Aug 2012 #65
hmm, then why did America wait so long to get into the fray? Whisp Aug 2012 #98
Because for the past half century we've been the world's stabilizing force Hippo_Tron Aug 2012 #67
And just how stabilizing has America been over the past sixty odd years? MadHound Aug 2012 #71
South Korea, Taiwan, Germany, and Japan (among others) would differ with your assessment Hippo_Tron Aug 2012 #167
You mean the multinational force in Rwanda the US deliberately hobbled? Posteritatis Aug 2012 #101
There is no evidence that the Free Syrian Army is really primarily made up of Syrians riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #15
There's no evidence that the Syrian rebels are UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #60
+1. DevonRex Aug 2012 #62
There's evidence they include outside forces. There's evidence they're armed by outside forces. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #117
I'm for toppling murderous dictators. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #128
lol. sure you are. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #137
What do you think my true motivations are? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #163
it's my secret. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #169
Sure there is. I don't have a lot of time today to google but here's just one story from DU riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #142
Ermm... a "secret" ??? ananda Aug 2012 #9
... n2doc Aug 2012 #10
sigh..... Marrah_G Aug 2012 #21
the order stops short of authorizing the arming of rebels directly spanone Aug 2012 #11
Right. And those men in fatigues in Indochina? Merely "military advisors"! nt Romulox Aug 2012 #18
“Birmingham accents” HiPointDem Aug 2012 #118
It looks like Obama's campaign will coincide with a new military adventure... nt Romulox Aug 2012 #17
Incredible isn't it?? Horrific. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2012 #19
Well crap....... Marrah_G Aug 2012 #20
I've been trying to understand this, but I can't. He must know something we don't. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #22
I'm pretty sure the President knows something Madhound does not. Whisp Aug 2012 #34
No need to know anything mysterious here. woo me with science Aug 2012 #72
Or any of the rest of us. He is NOT a warmonger like the shrub. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #105
That's what much of the media said about Bush and Iraq. girl gone mad Aug 2012 #109
yeh, like Bush and Obama are the same person. Whisp Aug 2012 #114
Just what the neocon-PNACers told us to do. Right on schedule. nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #23
+1 Blood for profit is bipartisan. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #70
I thought we were supposed to hit Iran next according to their schedule. Lasher Aug 2012 #84
Iran's just not going to happen. Would've figured people would get that by now. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #104
So, how soon do you think we'll hit Iran? Lasher Aug 2012 #115
Tell me one I haven't heard scores of times every year for the past eleven. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #122
Can't leftists ever argue with facts UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #27
Is that sarcasm MadHound Aug 2012 #29
I'm sure the article is true but not your claim UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #45
We are sending arms, money and drones to Syria, MadHound Aug 2012 #49
The article doesn't mention drones. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #54
How much do you want to bet that drones will be included? MadHound Aug 2012 #73
We don't give people drones. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #80
D'uh! MadHound Aug 2012 #83
Do I want to place a bet on speculation? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #89
Speculation, educated guess, gut feeling based on our past actions, MadHound Aug 2012 #95
Why would I want to bet? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #99
YOU DON'T GET IT, MadHound Aug 2012 #102
China and Russia use satellites to monitor us. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #106
When that's over, you could watch women's badminton Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #120
"I'm better off watching women's badmitten." Now you've moved to sexism, and misspelling sexism... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #129
Only a couple though...I would use drones.. snooper2 Aug 2012 #173
A bit of a slip up there? I understand though, your righteous indignation got the better of you. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #126
Nobel Peace Prize! agent46 Aug 2012 #30
Nobel Peace Prize. What a fucking joke. woo me with science Aug 2012 #63
Well, I've had enough of something alright. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #140
Yeah, yeah, we know. It's ALL about the civilians. woo me with science Aug 2012 #145
From my perspective, it * IS * all about the civilians. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #146
Uh huh. woo me with science Aug 2012 #148
I don't have an "RNC-approved textbook." Do you? AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #152
Nope. Bad analogy. woo me with science Aug 2012 #153
lol ... speaking of self-aggrandizement AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #156
!!!! dionysus Aug 2012 #179
It is becoming very clear that the Assad regime is going to fall. NCTraveler Aug 2012 #31
Unrec brooklynite Aug 2012 #47
Maybe he should call them "Contras" to justify us getting involved in another civil war. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #48
+1000 woo me with science Aug 2012 #66
Ollie was on Fox today talking about how Iran is the real target. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #125
I agree with you and Assad, let him slaughter his own citizens and we should do nothing. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #50
Good thing the British didn't jump in on the side of the Confederacy, MadHound Aug 2012 #52
NIce to see you have used at least four different Straw Men arguments in this thread. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #82
Nice to see you have nothing substantial in your reply, MadHound Aug 2012 #86
I am glad that the Syrian people will have the means at their disposal to fight Assad. Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #92
Which Syrian people? The country is deeply divided. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2012 #127
We tried to help in Afghanistan in the 80's Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2012 #51
Gee, is anyone surprised? woo me with science Aug 2012 #55
No matter how bad the situation is, we can always make it worse. Vidar Aug 2012 #61
DU Rec woo me with science Aug 2012 #64
Had enough yet, America? nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #75
Juan Cole: Obama signed finding to help Syria Uprising pampango Aug 2012 #79
That agrees with my OP MadHound Aug 2012 #90
Thank you for this post. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #111
If it's a "secretive order", how the hell did common dreams find out about it? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #91
LISTEN TO ME!! OBAMA IS TEH EVL!! Robb Aug 2012 #112
Thanks for clearing that up.... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #116
If you read it on the internet it must be true. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #131
I really think of us, the Obama voters, who won the Peace Prize, not Obama librechik Aug 2012 #113
You view the Assad and Gaddafi regimes UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #134
I was referring to earlier US efforts to end democracy, i.e., Iraq and in Palestine, earlier still librechik Aug 2012 #139
According to Hersh the rebels are muslim brotherhood. Yeah Its Spin Aug 2012 #119
“Seven countries in five years” HiPointDem Aug 2012 #121
"ending with Iran" woo me with science Aug 2012 #132
you got it. Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and iran. and all the war hawks at DU seem HiPointDem Aug 2012 #135
No shit. woo me with science Aug 2012 #154
k HiPointDem Aug 2012 #155
You do know that's a 5 year-old article, right?...nt SidDithers Aug 2012 #143
yes, sid, i know. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #144
My daughter was a few weeks old when my brother flew out to meet his ship in the Gulf Marrah_G Aug 2012 #181
well it might bring peace & he did have success in Libya ThomThom Aug 2012 #123
depends on what you mean by "success". our media isn't much for reporting the aftermath HiPointDem Aug 2012 #136
Are you saying he didn't kill his own people? UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #165
They're still "killing their own people" in Libya today. HiPointDem Aug 2012 #168
From whence comes the idea that the Nobel Peace Prize treestar Aug 2012 #124
+1000. Notice it's always the same group, the issue doesn't really matter. "Obama Bad"! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #130
Yup ... another example of the diametrically opposed "Obama Bad" memes. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #185
They need to free up Syrian air space... bikebloke Aug 2012 #133
Syrians are getting pummeled by superior weaponry. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #138
What could possibly go wrong? See Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Honduras, Congo, etc for precedents. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #141
More blood. More blood. More blood. woo me with science Aug 2012 #147
See Kosovo. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #162
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #151
He was chivvied into this one by NATO Warpy Aug 2012 #157
Libya Redux. malthaussen Aug 2012 #158
OK UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #166
when we blow people and shit and stuff up or support those that do it is always righteous... Agony Aug 2012 #159
Ah Commondreams...BBI's BFF. great white snark Aug 2012 #160
Ah, BBI.... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #161
knr nt slipslidingaway Aug 2012 #164
It's a tough call to make davidthegnome Aug 2012 #180
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