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In reply to the discussion: True Democrats don't work to slash Social Security. They don't. Not Ever. [View all]Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)203. That would be political suicide for the D's to cut SS.
They know very well that liberals overwhelmingly support it. If a Democrat ever wanted to cut SS, that would be a humongous middle finger to the base and to all working class Americans. It would paint the picture that they're no different than the G0Pee.
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True Democrats don't work to slash Social Security. They don't. Not Ever. [View all]
MannyGoldstein
Jul 2012
OP
Barack Obama appointed Simpson and Bowles, the two most virulent haters of Social Security on
MannyGoldstein
Jul 2012
#5
Manny is the master of "willful confusion". Reminds me a lot of the current "You Didn't Build That"
emulatorloo
Jul 2012
#156
It's so simple, raise the income subject to tax. Does it take an actuary?
xtraxritical
Jul 2012
#194
+ 1...Yes it is..There are a number here not old enough to remember the Democratic Party pre-Clinton
whathehell
Jul 2012
#189
That's it in a nutshell. The current favorite neo-democratic plan calls for 2 to 1 cuts
Dragonfli
Jul 2012
#217
I've got two words for you - Ryan Budget. A tangible existing REAL plan to destroy the safety net.
emulatorloo
Jul 2012
#174
I have to add that Obama must not believe that the Social Security Trust Fund
JDPriestly
Jul 2012
#57
'FUCK seniors and savers'??? So you agree with Republican Alan Simpson then?
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#134
No that wasn't sarcasm. Never thought I would see a regular poster on DU post that and still
Autumn
Jul 2012
#150
Actually, seniors and savers are trying to live on the fruits of their own labor.
JDPriestly
Jul 2012
#143
Nobody ever mentions that Baby Boomers paid *twice*, for themselves and the previous generation
newthinking
Jul 2012
#212
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, especially if you're an attorney. nt
patrice
Jul 2012
#128
And subsequently tossed that report in the recycle bin, and we got sequester instead
Hippo_Tron
Aug 2012
#297
"If President Obama ever cuts Social Security, I'll personally kick his ass."
R. Daneel Olivaw
Jul 2012
#69
Folks here have short memories. The only reason it hasn't already happened
newthinking
Jul 2012
#213
If he didn't intend to "compromise" he wouldn't be pretending like their talking points have merit.
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#320
Yes, we do have the Ryan plan. And the only way to stop Republicans from destroying the
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#219
Briefing room word games: What's a 'slash' versus a 'cut' in Social Security?
MannyGoldstein
Jul 2012
#13
It has been frozen for a couple of years, seniors are dropping behind as costs climb.
braddy
Jul 2012
#14
Exactly. You see clearly what is going on. And no matter how many denials there are, those facts
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#303
oh, it's Manny, campaigning against Obama in an election season again. bless your little heart for
dionysus
Jul 2012
#31
What would it matter in the long run, Manny? If President Obama does agree to the great bargain
R. Daneel Olivaw
Jul 2012
#96
No Pro... There Are Numbers Of Stories, All Un-sourced, That Leads Some Of Us To Believe This Is...
WillyT
Jul 2012
#44
For the same reasons 99% Teabaggers "feel" that Obama has raised their taxes
emulatorloo
Jul 2012
#161
yes, let's not discuss it until it happens. by which time it will be too late to do anything. what
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#249
I call a new formula that results in people getting less benefits a plan to cut benefits -- as would
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#253
The NYT is now the rumor mill? I can't imagine what you think a legitimate news outlet is, then.
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#261
I think you got that backwards. It is the very existence of Cantor and Boehner in Mannyland
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#270
+1. "To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#319
If Obama gets a second term, which I desperately hope he does, I suspect there will be no compromise
still_one
Jul 2012
#166
If Obama ends up cutting Social Security or Medicare, I GUARANTEE you, all the people
Marr
Jul 2012
#242
Um, yes, it is. I quoted the relevant regulations, verbatim, as they appear on BLS.gov.
Romulox
Aug 2012
#263
You don't have a point; you're contrary to be contrary. Much of our food is picked by CHILDREN.
Romulox
Aug 2012
#266
"remains 100% legal". child labor does not *remain* *100%* *legal* -- e.g. we no longer have child
HiPointDem
Aug 2012
#267
So now we are playing games of semantics? No thanks. Find someone else to follow around. nt
Romulox
Aug 2012
#272
Child labor is most certainly legal in this country, in the agricultural field. It's a disgrace,
Romulox
Aug 2012
#277
Ah, you are talking about Farming. Those laws do not translate into 'child labor is 100% legal'
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#309
You responded to me with "And do you have a link to your claim that 'most of our food..." You knew
Romulox
Aug 2012
#312
Let me remind me of what you said. You said the the US supports Child Labor 100%
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#314
Here's the quote, from this VERY thread: "Child Labor *remains* 100% legal in the United States."
Romulox
Aug 2012
#317
DOL.gov: "Under 12: You may work outside of school hours in any non-hazardous job on a small farm"
Romulox
Aug 2012
#278
More stuff to distort/misquote/ignore: ABC News Investigation: The Blueberry Children
Romulox
Aug 2012
#281
Oh Sabrina, I see you ignored *every last one* of those links in your attempt to pile on!
Romulox
Aug 2012
#305
You responded by pretending to not know we were talking about food production, even though you
Romulox
Aug 2012
#313
I responded to what you said. You said that 'child labor remains 100% legal in this country'.
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#318
5. Rework ALL "free trade" deals to where they're either "fair trade" or abolished completely.
HughBeaumont
Jul 2012
#188
"Slash"? Or do you mean "tweak"? Or "fix"? I'm 100% in favor of preserving Soc Security....
Honeycombe8
Jul 2012
#52
I don't think I am. I researched it long ago. This was expected to happen, BTW, before
Honeycombe8
Jul 2012
#234
You misunderstand. I didn't say anywhere in my post that printing $ was the ONLY cause of inflation.
Honeycombe8
Aug 2012
#315
Leaving social security as is = cutting benefits. I wonder how many understand this.
dkf
Jul 2012
#65
I will go a step further, there is no difference between those democrats and the republicans.
still_one
Jul 2012
#86
I made no such comparison. Any democrat who dismantles Social Security is no Democrat. If
still_one
Jul 2012
#164
Still trying desperately to avoid the President's own proposal, huh?
woo me with science
Jul 2012
#113
What a fucking pantload. What unadulterated right-wing bullcrap that is.
woo me with science
Jul 2012
#125
John Conyers is not a liar. Thank you for the links. I remember that last statement
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#142
True Democrats don't put their citizens in internment camps. They don't. Not Ever...nt
SidDithers
Jul 2012
#121
True Democrats do not support assassinating American Citizens without charges or trial. What is your
sabrina 1
Jul 2012
#135
True Democrats don't use Skinners web site to post dumbass OPs campaigning against Dems, either. nt
dionysus
Jul 2012
#136
Just the usual Fox-and-Friends-style fear and smear stuff that Mr. Manny does.
emulatorloo
Jul 2012
#153
The economy will be bad, many will think they must accept the unthinkable to get what they want...
jtuck004
Jul 2012
#133
And the 119 recs are just DUers who are just easily duped? And only you and a few others who...
Poll_Blind
Jul 2012
#160
Manny could post the phone book and the usual suspects would give it 100+ recs...nt
SidDithers
Jul 2012
#193
kr and piss on the folks pretending like the bargaining hasn't been going on.
HiPointDem
Jul 2012
#141
Karl Rove toolbox: Speculative Bullshit as Fact, Willful misinterpretation, Out of context quotes
emulatorloo
Jul 2012
#149
Definitely, positively, absolutely ... any second ... here it comes .... here it comes ...
JoePhilly
Jul 2012
#159
I don't know what to call a member who continuosly makes up shit about Democrats
emulatorloo
Jul 2012
#185
Well, you can be forgiven for being wrong seeing as you appear to be new to DU.
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#285
It's like the NRA saying that Obama not taking your guns in term #1 PROVES he will take them
JoePhilly
Jul 2012
#195
yes, Nelson's seat from Nebraska. At least I think that is what the OP is referring to. /nt
still_one
Jul 2012
#187
I like to read their fantastic wishing and baseless accusations. It's somehow comforting to see
Egalitarian Thug
Jul 2012
#197
"Fantastic wishing and baseless accusations" is a good description of the OP
emulatorloo
Jul 2012
#201
Really? How so? It was our Democratic President that both created the catfood commission,
Egalitarian Thug
Jul 2012
#209
It's so dead that the NY Times just published a major op-ed pushing for its recommendations..
girl gone mad
Aug 2012
#295
Thanks for including the TYT- they've done a great job covering these "deals". nt
Poll_Blind
Jul 2012
#223
Most of us have not forgotten, excellent post and it's hard to understand how
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#271
I won't either, it has made many people very nervous regardless of the attempt to
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#311
Welcome to DU. We all watched this from the beginning and I disagree with you completely.
sabrina 1
Aug 2012
#284
Let see: You *did* have time to pile on, upthread, but *didn't* have time to read any links...
Romulox
Aug 2012
#306
So-called Democrat Erskin Bowles, co-chair of what we Dems call the Catfood Commission...
Oilwellian
Aug 2012
#293