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In reply to the discussion: Tom Tomorrow: What We REALLY Need Is... [View all]nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)as well as attacking the criminal gangs, of course the latter, could easily lead to things like oh Mexico (which leads me to the next item... it is not just the gangs, but the basis of what they use to control turf... and lack of jobs I could go on... shades of gray and all that)
But the incidents where somebody actually stops, after the fact mind you, we have yet to see the fantasy here portrayed actually happen, is trained people. One example involved two OFF DUTY Law enforcement, one even went and got his body armor out of the car. The second, this one, a FORMER police officer.
Aka both involved a certain degree of training that johnny on the spot usually lacks.
The ONLY event where a CCW could have made a difference, that is very recent, fortunately he thought about it and NEVER cleared leather, or he could have shot the person who without a gun was wrestling Loughner to the ground. In that case, a vet was involved. I mean the guy wrestling Loughner to the ground.
And when interviewed he said it clearly, he was not a hero, training, yes, TRAINING, took over.