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In the discussion thread: It's past time to end the "pony envy" [View all]

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 09:11 PM

Cerridwen (11,866 posts)

61. Agreement? No.

Serious anger coming from that post.

I started to reply in depth and I realized that nothing I said would get past the anger you displayed. That was all I meant. I was ham-handed in how I said it. I'm sorry for that.

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170 replies	Author	Time	Post
It's past time to end the "pony envy" [View all]	magical thyme	Jul 2012	OP
um...STRONGLY disagree. FUCK the GOP and the HORSE THEY RODE IN ON. nt	LaydeeBug	Jul 2012	#1
Not every rider is a member of the GOP.	xmas74	Jul 2012	#4
I was trained in a few of the foundation points of dressage...	antigone382	Jul 2012	#15
Wow! You sure know how to add value	kurtzapril4	Jul 2012	#54
K&R. The equestrian events were added in 1912 when the 99% rode horses	riderinthestorm	Jul 2012	#2
I'm going to have to disagree with you there	Retrograde	Jul 2012	#50
Just a tiny bit of bad luck and maybe Rafalca/Ebeling will fail spectacularly.	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#104
This is why DU is a beautiful place	DefenseLawyer	Jul 2012	#3
The poster in the OP rides	xmas74	Jul 2012	#9
ah anybody can ride a horse that hops on two legs..	snooper2	Jul 2012	#86
No, it's because a lot of us know one or two things about dressage...	antigone382	Jul 2012	#16
But who cares? I don't!!	cilla4progress	Jul 2012	#67
Sure, and ultimately I know there's nothing to be done about it.	antigone382	Jul 2012	#73
I agree! And I'm a diehard lefty	cilla4progress	Jul 2012	#113
I enjoy the fun-poking, the "horse prom," the "horse they danced in on," etc.	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#130
Likewise, there is nothing too petty, inconsequential, idiotic, pointless or downright (edited)	A HERETIC I AM	Jul 2012	#45
Beautiful horse (course I say that about every horse I see!)	cilla4progress	Jul 2012	#69
+1 n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Jul 2012	#71
+1,000	MADem	Jul 2012	#141
k&r	HappyMe	Jul 2012	#5
I've watched it at county fairs	xmas74	Jul 2012	#62
Tell Mitt	BeyondGeography	Jul 2012	#6
My problem with them is that they write her hobby off as a business	Marrah_G	Jul 2012	#7
They do run a legitimate business - training, boarding, breeding, sales.	riderinthestorm	Jul 2012	#10
I think there is a big difference between what you do and what they do	Marrah_G	Jul 2012	#11
Nope. None. I've seen Ann Rmoney at events	riderinthestorm	Jul 2012	#13
"Granted, they are doing it at a much higher level and expense"	DCBob	Jul 2012	#44
Do you do it primarily to make a profit?	lumberjack_jeff	Jul 2012	#70
She has to make a profit to be structured as a business or get hit by the IRS	riderinthestorm	Jul 2012	#81
Don't they write it off as "therapy" ?	KurtNYC	Jul 2012	#90
No. Her riding therapy is her private riding on her private horses.	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#101
They were eligible for a $50 deduction. Is it really that big a deal? nt	hack89	Jul 2012	#47
yes it is when those fuckers make millions upon millions it is!!!	gopiscrap	Jul 2012	#115
They did not make millions and millions off their horse business.	riderinthestorm	Jul 2012	#123
No one I know can afford hobbies like this...	Comrade_McKenzie	Jul 2012	#8
it's not hating, it's teasing	Enrique	Jul 2012	#12
sometimes yes; sometimes no	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#18
Correct	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2012	#14
I don't...	one_voice	Jul 2012	#17
Plus twothousandgazillion!	peacebird	Jul 2012	#20
Hate her! I'm sorry. Am I bad for that?	cilla4progress	Jul 2012	#72
My "pony envy" is the $77K tax writeoff mittens got for the horse.	peacebird	Jul 2012	#19
Easy enough.	Cerridwen	Jul 2012	#23
I have an up and coming akc hunting dog, can i write off his food&training&expenses?	peacebird	Jul 2012	#25
Depends whether it's a hobby or a business.	Cerridwen	Jul 2012	#27
and if you're able to do this	gopiscrap	Jul 2012	#118
Some people believe that sponsoring these ancient arts has value	riderinthestorm	Jul 2012	#122
That would be wonderful!	xmas74	Jul 2012	#129
+ a billion or so. Why don't the Romneys support therapeutic riding programs?	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#145
they claimed the deduction. The IRS allowed $49.00 for this year.	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#46
It was $50, not $77K.	hack89	Jul 2012	#48
I know several people who do or did dressage, and a few who will be at this year's Olympic	Bluenorthwest	Jul 2012	#21
But what about the children?	FLyellowdog	Jul 2012	#22
Equestrian Sports are expensive, but so is skiing.	Taverner	Jul 2012	#24
Polo isn't that expensive.	Warpy	Jul 2012	#29
I've never been able to finagle an invite to Myopia	AngryAmish	Jul 2012	#146
Skiing is dirt cheap at Mars Hill in northern Maine.	MADem	Jul 2012	#38
Oh I know. I like semi-local ski area Dodge Ridge	Taverner	Jul 2012	#51
At Mars Hill they have free skiing one night a week.	MADem	Jul 2012	#55
Yeah. I remember seeing lots of lectures about how elitist hockey was in '08	Posteritatis	Jul 2012	#109
Where I live, people play hockey in their backyard!	MADem	Jul 2012	#112
Yeah, same here	Posteritatis	Jul 2012	#116
+1,000	MADem	Jul 2012	#121
In some places it's different.	laundry_queen	Jul 2012	#155
Heck, even regional level swimming is expensive.	xmas74	Jul 2012	#63
Exactly.	laundry_queen	Jul 2012	#156
I told my daughter that I would find the money somehow if she wanted to stick with it.	xmas74	Jul 2012	#158
And don't get me started on how expensive equestrian water skiing is!	JVS	Jul 2012	#169
I reject the term "pony envy" and the idea that it is really about envy	fishwax	Jul 2012	#26
I wanted one until I went to summer camp at the age of 11	Warpy	Jul 2012	#28
I can understand that	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#75
No "pony envy" here. Just Mitten Bitten.	nc4bo	Jul 2012	#30
I have six horses. I guess 5 horses and a donkey.	Blanks	Jul 2012	#31
BS	vin	Jul 2012	#32
Wow, a member since 2001 and this is your first comment?	TBF	Jul 2012	#34
Most people don't grow up with pony envy.	zeemike	Jul 2012	#33
you can love the animal and love the sport.They aren't mutually exclusive.	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#40
No offence please...I am sure you love your horses.	zeemike	Jul 2012	#80
Every dressage movement is something a horse does in the wild, on their own	riderinthestorm	Jul 2012	#82
dressage is not unnatural and is not painful	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#88
Good grief she rode some beautiful horses!	loudsue	Jul 2012	#35
it is not ENVY	handmade34	Jul 2012	#36
Bullshit. False premise. We didn't pay nearly eighty grand so Jackie/Caroline could trot around.	MADem	Jul 2012	#37
I don't understand your post.	Cerridwen	Jul 2012	#42
If you don't understand it, I urge you to read it again.	MADem	Jul 2012	#53
Wow.	Cerridwen	Jul 2012	#56
Wow.	MADem	Jul 2012	#60
Agreement? No.	Cerridwen	Jul 2012	#61
Why do you think I am angry? I am not. Not in the slightest.	MADem	Jul 2012	#65
More, very similar feedback	woo me with science	Jul 2012	#78
You didn't pay $77k. You paid $50. That's all that was allowed. Fifty bucks.	riderinthestorm	Jul 2012	#83
The absolute nerve of those one percenters to even try to get a dime out of the taxpayers is what	MADem	Jul 2012	#124
She has a legitimate business and if you don't like the tax code for that, take it up with the IRS	riderinthestorm	Jul 2012	#132
No--I will continue to assert that her "legitimate" business is a bullshit hobby.	MADem	Jul 2012	#137
Horses aside, your post is really about "envy" -	TBF	Jul 2012	#39
I am not defending the Romneys, and am sorry you so misunderstand my post	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#89
How Ann treats her MS is not at issue here.	TBF	Jul 2012	#96
I did not write "you are all just jealous of the Romneys"	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#98
I think you did with that choice of words -	TBF	Jul 2012	#140
then it was a poor choice of words, and for that I apologize	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#143
Ah, interesting -	TBF	Jul 2012	#150
I would see it as redeeming if I felt her involvement were not so selfish	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#154
"I am not defending the Romneys" Oh but you are.	devilgrrl	Jul 2012	#157
The price of humor	Godot51	Jul 2012	#41
I just bought a Pony two days ago!	Archae	Jul 2012	#43
It just goes to show you that republicans ruin everything they touch.	gtar100	Jul 2012	#49
thank you for getting my point!	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#76
Some democrats ride, some own/shoot guns, some smoke, it used to be a big tent	The Straight Story	Jul 2012	#52
It still is a big tent. It's way more tolerant of differences than it was fifty years ago.	MADem	Jul 2012	#59
Ya know, I agree	The Straight Story	Jul 2012	#77
And freedom of speech is a biggie on that list, too.	MADem	Jul 2012	#114
Who would move to a non pony country?	-..__...	Jul 2012	#57
First thing that came to my mind.	Union Scribe	Jul 2012	#87
Very good!	Puglover	Jul 2012	#58
I Don't Have Pony Envy, But The RMoneys are obnoxious	AnnieBW	Jul 2012	#64
I moved out west from tony western NJ	cilla4progress	Jul 2012	#66
Sorry. $77,000 in tax breaks for horse expense isn't a hobby, it's a scam. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Jul 2012	#68
They got $49.00 in tax deductions.	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#74
+++	cherokeeprogressive	Jul 2012	#85
This post really makes me miss the unrec. n-t	Logical	Jul 2012	#79
I really appreciate all the wonky expertise (on just about any subject) here	eridani	Jul 2012	#84
OK, but the Kennedys are rich people	treestar	Jul 2012	#91
and they are democrats.	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#99
Nobody is really tearing it down	treestar	Jul 2012	#110
You can often find older horses for a very reasonable price,	xmas74	Jul 2012	#133
If Romney's horse beat the competition at the olympic qualification matches	JustABozoOnThisBus	Jul 2012	#92
Any sport that can be done with a beer in one hand is a great sport.	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#102
So the Romneys are trying to be the Kennedys? Kennedy Envy!	KurtNYC	Jul 2012	#93
It's nice that some 1% sponsor some nobodies.	JNelson6563	Jul 2012	#94
I learned FEI movements on somebody else's fully trained horse	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#106
So you validate my points.	JNelson6563	Jul 2012	#107
I did NOT muck out the stables of the 1%. That is my point.	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#120
" Olympic competition is a sport of the 1%. Dressage in and of itself is not."	riderinthestorm	Jul 2012	#125
" DUers getting unhinged because Ann Rmoney..."	99Forever	Jul 2012	#135
Back then, the rich paid more than their fair share of taxes--really!! The tax rate on the wealthy	MADem	Jul 2012	#138
After ...	99Forever	Jul 2012	#95
the tried to take a $77K deduction. They were allowed a $49 deduction	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#103
Frankly...	99Forever	Jul 2012	#105
I'm not defending elitist scum like the Romney's. I'm condemning them.	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#108
I have no problem with dressage or horse folks	Marrah_G	Jul 2012	#131
I'm gonna go out on a limb here...	Marrah_G	Jul 2012	#128
not very far out on that limb....	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#136
Hahahahaha	Marrah_G	Jul 2012	#161
I rode my great grandpappy's mule once.	CBGLuthier	Jul 2012	#97
Oh, so now I'm just lealous of how rich they are?	Iggo	Jul 2012	#100
Why would you assume any of us were envious of their lifestyle of expensive prancing	TwilightGardener	Jul 2012	#111
for a couple reasons	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#134
Pony envy? <<<pfffft!>>> Horses were never anything but a pain in the ass	Zorra	Jul 2012	#117
Oh, for fucks sake	Tsiyu	Jul 2012	#139
Yup. nt	riderinthestorm	Jul 2012	#142
Wow. What a nasty, uncalled for post and horrible misdirected personal attack.	Zorra	Jul 2012	#163
You made the statement	Tsiyu	Aug 2012	#170
careful there. Someone could mistake you for Ann Romney	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#149
Yes. It was meant as "reality based black humor".	Zorra	Jul 2012	#165
"black humor" can get you into big trouble on the internets	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#168
Envy? Really?	devilgrrl	Jul 2012	#119
No fooling.	99Forever	Jul 2012	#127
Every horse or pony I've ever owned I rode bareback and had a place to go in mind when I got on so	lonestarnot	Jul 2012	#126
I had a pony. This isn't "envy." It's disgust.	Atman	Jul 2012	#144
The $77K deduction was denied. $49 was allowed.	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#147
They'll have another shot at claiming tax deductions on their 2012 return.	Atman	Jul 2012	#148
You keep runnung that meme.	99Forever	Jul 2012	#151
I own and operate the exact same dressage (and CT) business as the Rmoneys and Jan Ebeling	riderinthestorm	Jul 2012	#152
b.s. I've written that in all likelihood their so-called biz will end up declared a hobby	magical thyme	Jul 2012	#153
This message was self-deleted by its author	TBF	Jul 2012	#159
For folks who are interested in horses and the Olympics -	TBF	Jul 2012	#160
I'm terrified of horses and Republicans...	Phentex	Jul 2012	#162
lol, nope, never dreamed of having a pony	quinnox	Jul 2012	#164
I know three liberal Democrats who love riding horses.	BlueCheese	Jul 2012	#166
I stagger around a lot when I'm drunk. I call it Dressage, and I want a $70K writeoff.	Fire Walk With Me	Jul 2012	#167

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