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MellowDem

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35. You can't shut down the country...
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 10:54 PM
Dec 2011

if no one is willing to go along with you. We can't alienate the same people we are trying to inform.

People said that about hippies in the 60's The Straight Story Dec 2011 #1
Hippies in the 60s... MellowDem Dec 2011 #12
I don't know...I dig the Diggers (look them up) deutsey Dec 2011 #22
Attributing cultural or technological advances... MellowDem Dec 2011 #39
But thankfully there have been people's movements that do represent and advance those views deutsey Dec 2011 #54
by hippies I think he means unionworks Dec 2011 #250
And the 60's culminated with Richard Nixon's election. That was the beginning pnwmom Dec 2011 #16
COINTELPRO, political assassinations, violent police crackdowns helped n/t deutsey Dec 2011 #23
I disagree hootinholler Dec 2011 #43
No. Post Kennedy assassination there was the Civil Rights Act, Voting Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid TheWraith Dec 2011 #47
True, but these advances also intensified a reaction deutsey Dec 2011 #55
All true... hootinholler Dec 2011 #56
Nixon was forced to sign the Clean Water Act because the Democrats in Congress tabasco Dec 2011 #69
At least Nixon understood economics better than today's pols & how it related to national security. ieoeja Dec 2011 #90
He still didn't have to sign it. We have the process for a purpose. Make them do it. TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #168
LOL. tabasco Dec 2011 #261
Yes, he did. Nobody issues a veto they know will be overridden just for shits and giggles. TheWraith Dec 2011 #262
Horseshit, we are talking the Constitution and life and liberty here. TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #277
inertia. ret5hd Dec 2011 #224
The only progressive president I can remember nineteen50 Dec 2011 #207
See post# 69 Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #242
Ummm, what tactics? onlyadream Dec 2011 #2
Blocking the ports... MellowDem Dec 2011 #20
Oops... I haven't been paying attention. Ty , nt onlyadream Dec 2011 #74
You are drinking the Kool-Aid, the Fox and multinational Kool-Aid. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #153
^^what JD said ~nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2011 #178
Someone on my Facebook just commented on the Port shutdowns in Oregon Beavker Dec 2011 #192
I wonder what fox would have said about nineteen50 Dec 2011 #209
Precisely. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #233
+1 Beavker Dec 2011 #280
+2 eom tledford Dec 2011 #228
With all respect, you are blubbering. First of all OWS has a 56% popularity. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #194
Something like knitting tea cozies for democracy... MedicalAdmin Dec 2011 #234
Can you cite a source fo rthe 56% popularity? I have read that support has dropped in recent days BoWanZi Dec 2011 #238
Opposition grows to Occupy's port shutdown plan pintobean Dec 2011 #3
Occupy stated intention is NOT JUST the economic divide nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #13
I know what's in my contract. pintobean Dec 2011 #36
Then why would you assume that they'd oppenly say nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #48
I don't need to read between the lines pintobean Dec 2011 #51
I have... the bubble you are living in nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #52
Yeah pintobean Dec 2011 #57
Which pols, which set of pols are you going to use? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #58
Taking the pulse of the average Joe in 1930 UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #73
That is really uncalled for. ohheckyeah Dec 2011 #106
I don't see how the two are related. pintobean Dec 2011 #120
The cheap camera and notebook comment was nothing ohheckyeah Dec 2011 #127
That's how she has described them. pintobean Dec 2011 #135
LOL....like you weren't ohheckyeah Dec 2011 #226
I didn't claim otherwise. pintobean Dec 2011 #231
I hope you read the update on kit nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #269
I do not despise the occupiers pintobean Dec 2011 #273
I sure could not tell from your posts nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #274
You could if you wanted to. pintobean Dec 2011 #275
Maybe you are writing different posts nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #279
Consider the photos of what police did to Scott Olsen, for example. Occulus Dec 2011 #267
What did I reveal? pintobean Dec 2011 #272
By the way nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #128
And they are the ones who will lose their homes and do nothing. aquart Dec 2011 #60
+1 dionysus Dec 2011 #139
What methods do you think we should use to draw the attention of the busy public JDPriestly Dec 2011 #163
I have met the type of person you speak of and sadly they are union members who do not understand... unapatriciated Dec 2011 #220
Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #195
It's nothing more than an article pintobean Dec 2011 #219
I'm not sure which unions see this as disruptive or unnecessary but.... unapatriciated Dec 2011 #214
What should they do? HeyHeymymy Dec 2011 #4
"Bank transfer day" was awesome. More like that please! n/t think Dec 2011 #21
Honestly? MellowDem Dec 2011 #24
My politically challenged coworker main comments HeyHeymymy Dec 2011 #34
You mean the trash that was not trash nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #49
I visited Occupy LA. It was clean. There were port-a-potties. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #164
Thank you for your concern. aquart Dec 2011 #62
This nation is not conservative. ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2011 #71
Sorry, but no. You should read some polls about political self-identity. TheWraith Dec 2011 #263
It's not a political moverment..... Jello Biafra Dec 2011 #101
You are poorly informed about the Occupy Movement Remember Me Dec 2011 #199
+10000000000000000000000000 eom tledford Dec 2011 #232
"There is no real organization to Occupy yet" Occulus Dec 2011 #270
No, they aren't izquierdista Dec 2011 #5
+1 The more OWS continues developing and (importantly) acting out a counter-narrative deutsey Dec 2011 #15
People aren't getting OWS... MellowDem Dec 2011 #27
I find no problem with how OWS is behaving or trying to shraby Dec 2011 #37
What we on the left think... MellowDem Dec 2011 #41
For 50+ years the reactionary right shoved the narrative toward their side... Luminous Animal Dec 2011 #46
Amen to that Aerows Dec 2011 #78
two things nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #50
+1 Aerows Dec 2011 #82
It's not just conservative Remember Me Dec 2011 #200
"Thank Gid for the internet." Occulus Dec 2011 #271
Which polls? Must be ones that Grover Norquist makes up' wilsonbooks Dec 2011 #258
MellowDem, have you actually visited an Occupy site? JDPriestly Dec 2011 #166
Occupy is what it is pscot Dec 2011 #208
Would that be more amateurish than what was done up to that point? nineteen50 Dec 2011 #212
FAIL. backscatter712 Dec 2011 #6
Lame pintobean Dec 2011 #8
Let me offer as much evidence as you did: xchrom Dec 2011 #7
I added a link. nt MellowDem Dec 2011 #29
Your link doesn't support your opinions. LooseWilly Dec 2011 #245
We can't expect OWS to do everything on their own arcane1 Dec 2011 #9
Disagree quinnox Dec 2011 #10
The majority of Americans are not on the left... MellowDem Dec 2011 #31
the numbers are 70% for single payer/real public option, 70% for Medicare and Social Security MisterP Dec 2011 #45
No it isn't Aerows Dec 2011 #84
This nasty OP has shown me that I will survive the jurors. Peace. WingDinger Dec 2011 #11
What was nasty about it? nt. MellowDem Dec 2011 #32
What tactics? I hope they go even further than shutting down ports, if that was what you were sadge goddess Dec 2011 #14
You can't shut down the country... MellowDem Dec 2011 #35
Welcome to DU Aerows Dec 2011 #85
I totally agree with shutting down the country. glowing Dec 2011 #197
Your "concern" is noted. Odin2005 Dec 2011 #17
Exactly, Odin2005 n/t Aerows Dec 2011 #88
What tactics? Toucano Dec 2011 #18
Poppycock Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #19
Sigh. It's not at all "pretty indisputable" Matariki Dec 2011 #25
I was at the port of Tacoma Generic Other Dec 2011 #65
So go do it "right"... SomethingFishy Dec 2011 #26
Indeed! Aerows Dec 2011 #89
And what tactic is that? Would they even be noticed without having "occupied"? mmonk Dec 2011 #28
When I click my ruby slippers together, there eventually appears a magical hide thread function... Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #30
Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #33
The Tea Party now has more support... MellowDem Dec 2011 #38
That's rich hootinholler Dec 2011 #44
Bingo! kenfrequed Dec 2011 #87
The real story is in the cross tabs hootinholler Dec 2011 #109
The problem with these "self identification" polls is that group socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #167
Hammer meet nail head n/t Aerows Dec 2011 #91
That's actually in line... MellowDem Dec 2011 #160
But the states in which the shut-up-the-ports movement took place JDPriestly Dec 2011 #171
that's bullshit. Americans are quite liberal -- they just don't call themselves that Remember Me Dec 2011 #202
The problem I have with Occupy Mosaic Dec 2011 #40
It moved on from Adbusters a while ago nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #63
Seriously Nadin... Bragi Dec 2011 #75
Sometimes you have to plow on Aerows Dec 2011 #93
True, but you can also change tactics Bragi Dec 2011 #96
Our nation is too polarized Aerows Dec 2011 #98
No disagreement on that Bragi Dec 2011 #99
" However, like most people" Aerows Dec 2011 #103
Polls backs up my point Bragi Dec 2011 #108
Okay Aerows Dec 2011 #114
My mistake Bragi Dec 2011 #124
We are Aerows Dec 2011 #126
Who said anything about "giving up" Bragi Dec 2011 #134
Getting distinctly political Aerows Dec 2011 #145
"Occupy" started with tents. It is now occupying a lot more. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #175
Don't tell that to me nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #112
Regardless Aerows Dec 2011 #116
Polls go up, they go down nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #121
Yeah, like right after Day 1 nt Remember Me Dec 2011 #203
If you want to find an anarchistic movement, look to the Chicago School of Economics, JDPriestly Dec 2011 #172
Anarcho-syndicalism Mosaic Dec 2011 #253
I am more familiar with Chomsky's work in linguistics than with his work in politics. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #259
Maybe, maybe not MFrohike Dec 2011 #42
Exactly, and it's not just about Occupy... JHB Dec 2011 #100
Exactly what 'left' do you think OWS is hurting? As far as I'm concerned, the coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #53
if you don't like it, get down to the GAs and make you suggestions dana_b Dec 2011 #59
What if the people who dominate the GA's are the problem? /nt Bragi Dec 2011 #79
And what if people not dominating the GA's are the problem? Aerows Dec 2011 #94
Oh, you mean like all the Occupiers? Remember Me Dec 2011 #205
There is no left in the US. David__77 Dec 2011 #61
LEFT??? If you don't like these types of tactics socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #64
Nonsense Bragi Dec 2011 #81
You are correct, I'll be more specific nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #155
Yes this is what militant labor does. And as an historian socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #170
Yup nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #181
You guys are thrilling me Remember Me Dec 2011 #206
I love DU3 Union Scribe Dec 2011 #66
If Fox news doesn't support it then the gullible masses won't Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2011 #67
So, OWS is supposed to be watching the polls and steering its actions accordingly... AntiFascist Dec 2011 #68
No, the whole world is NOT watching Bragi Dec 2011 #83
You aren't Aerows Dec 2011 #95
This is what is sad or funny nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #150
Very good points. The corporate media presstitutes are deliberately minimizing Occupy. backscatter712 Dec 2011 #158
Thanks, Nadin JDPriestly Dec 2011 #177
Well, you obviously aren't watching because the tactics are in fact evolving. AntiFascist Dec 2011 #189
good point marions ghost Dec 2011 #169
Got anything more recent than a month-old poll to indicate OWS losing support? MilesColtrane Dec 2011 #70
Just this... Bragi Dec 2011 #92
"The port shutdown was an over-reaching bust." - I have to take issue with that, as coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #115
+1 The 1% and their mouthpieces are out in force and are desperate to destroy the Occupy movement. Zorra Dec 2011 #122
Yes, that must be it! Bragi Dec 2011 #125
You seem to want it to fail Aerows Dec 2011 #131
Yes, it does seem that way. The question arises: Zorra Dec 2011 #147
that's rather presumptuous. it seems to me, that anyone who doesn't agree 100% with OWS tactics here dionysus Dec 2011 #165
I concur with your comments. MADem Dec 2011 #183
+1 This exactly nt Veruca Salt Dec 2011 #198
Six of one, half a dozen of the other... LanternWaste Dec 2011 #157
You wrote: Bragi Dec 2011 #129
It's not an assumption that is difficult to arrive at Aerows Dec 2011 #133
How could I be clearer? Bragi Dec 2011 #137
Any suggestions? Aerows Dec 2011 #140
LOL! Relabeling, are we? Start your own "99% Movement". Zorra Dec 2011 #148
Yes, I would "rebrand" it if I could Bragi Dec 2011 #149
I think, for the most part, Remember Me Dec 2011 #213
Fair point Bragi Dec 2011 #218
Yes. The "tactic" was used to popularize the concept. It worked for a bit, then became stale. MADem Dec 2011 #255
In retrospect, my comment about "your agenda" does strike me as coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #136
Thanks for that! Bragi Dec 2011 #138
CU is pretty awesome :) Aerows Dec 2011 #142
let's see if they can pull it off. you need tens of millions of people to pull off a general strike, dionysus Dec 2011 #159
I think it is closer than we dared dream of Aerows Dec 2011 #179
time will tell, let's see. dionysus Dec 2011 #188
People are pissed and it isn't going away because 'it doesn't poll well'. Edweird Dec 2011 #72
+1 n/t Aerows Dec 2011 #77
People are always going to complain about protestors Aerows Dec 2011 #76
The MSM will always spin protests for their advantage randr Dec 2011 #80
The demands are there nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #152
Baloney. Orsino Dec 2011 #86
So show us all how to do it better. Gold Metal Flake Dec 2011 #97
Here's a suggestion Bragi Dec 2011 #105
These are excellent ideas. Are you anywhere near an Occupy encampment? coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #118
I was addressing the OP, but since you popped into the convo... Gold Metal Flake Dec 2011 #119
Great. Don't disagree at all.......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #146
Here's a suggestion from me Bragi Dec 2011 #151
Yes and that was the post I asked about......... socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #176
No, I don't think the rulers will back off Bragi Dec 2011 #186
What you understand as political nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #210
Well as nadin has said numerous times, Occupy seems to be able socialist_n_TN Dec 2011 #266
I thought OWS was pretty much over? snooper2 Dec 2011 #102
How many times has Bill O'Reilly proclaimed the death of the Occupy movement now? backscatter712 Dec 2011 #104
I didn't hear anything about it snooper2 Dec 2011 #107
Here's another story. Multiple ports got shut down. It was awesome! backscatter712 Dec 2011 #110
This isn't a popularity contest - it's about doing what's right - and changing the world slay Dec 2011 #111
Taking Root in Unlikely Soil, Occupy Florida Gains Momentum xchrom Dec 2011 #113
Occupy goes to Florida in December?...nt SidDithers Dec 2011 #141
OMG - I think that's my favorite Occupy sign of all time Remember Me Dec 2011 #215
PPP is a Third Way polling company owned by a 1% businessman. nt Zorra Dec 2011 #117
+1 slay Dec 2011 #161
+1,,, I wish people would do a little research on the golddigger Dec 2011 #243
I love some of DU3's new features. Very revealing... nt stillwaiting Dec 2011 #123
incredible amount of BS spanone Dec 2011 #130
sure fascisthunter Dec 2011 #132
The Occupy Movement has a great message boxman15 Dec 2011 #143
Notice that no labor leader nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #154
I hope you'll read the rest of this thread Remember Me Dec 2011 #216
I'm appalled by the media's coverage of the OWS movement. boxman15 Dec 2011 #256
Thank you for your concern. KamaAina Dec 2011 #144
i don't know about hurting their message or, not, but reading this thread... if you don't think dionysus Dec 2011 #156
Yes, I've read through the entire thread, and I get that sense as well. Either support OWS 100% - SlimJimmy Dec 2011 #173
ironically, that kind of stuff is pretty counter productive to growing the movement, isn't it? dionysus Dec 2011 #174
Yes, yes it is. SlimJimmy Dec 2011 #182
Want to see something amusing? pintobean Dec 2011 #185
Yep, just caught that. I normally don't check to see who has reccd a thread, SlimJimmy Dec 2011 #254
OWS is fine by me. NT Vincardog Dec 2011 #162
What a steaming pile of horseshit (n/t) CrawlingChaos Dec 2011 #180
Bullpuckey! ananda Dec 2011 #184
Nonsense marions ghost Dec 2011 #187
Give me a gung ho and radicalized 30% over any tepid and conflicted majority, no matter how large. TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #190
Those concern trolls were saying the same thing during the Civil Rights Movement alp227 Dec 2011 #191
Stop pussy-footing JEB Dec 2011 #193
What happened to the unrec feature. This OP is hogwash. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #196
Thankfully it's dead. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #201
Ah, yes, but we still have the rec feature pintobean Dec 2011 #211
what a shock. Warren Stupidity Dec 2011 #223
um yeah..I know what ya mean.. Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #237
Don't agree? Then it must be hogwash. randome Dec 2011 #204
OWS popularity seems pretty good to me. blackspade Dec 2011 #217
Unrec CJCRANE Dec 2011 #221
Occupying public parks is exactly what put OWS on the map and in play. Warren Stupidity Dec 2011 #222
That's not important..What great movement was EVER popular in its early days? Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #225
Damn Hippies!!!! bvar22 Dec 2011 #227
Hmmmm. bvar22 Dec 2011 #229
No. Iggo Dec 2011 #230
Bullshit! karenbe111 Dec 2011 #235
It does make you wonder! Wind Dancer Dec 2011 #236
It's time to "Occupy" the ballot box. jaysunb Dec 2011 #239
the media's portrayal of them have made them less popular with the American people SemperEadem Dec 2011 #240
Bullshit! Rightwing, teabagger and WS propaganda poll. I can't believe people would... golddigger Dec 2011 #241
Archaeology issue Jan/Feb2012 recalls press from 1900s-sounds EXACTLY LIKE YOU StarsInHerHair Dec 2011 #244
I doubt it. ozone_man Dec 2011 #246
Call the Waambulance n/t unionworks Dec 2011 #247
Ha! You hope .... Bryn Dec 2011 #248
Actually, that cartoon shows exactly what is wrong with OWS. randome Dec 2011 #249
Not directed at anyone here.... I was talking about 'idiots' who are Bryn Dec 2011 #257
Then I apologize about the 'idiots' part of my response. randome Dec 2011 #260
AMEN BROTHER (OR SISTER) johncoby2 Dec 2011 #251
I dsiagree. the movement is growing. Support is growing. robinlynne Dec 2011 #252
IT TAKES A PILLAGE .... on Amy Goodman this morning... IcyPeas Dec 2011 #264
the idiots that are part of the 99% OccupyIdiots Dec 2011 #265
The Occupy movement has been successful because they represent the 99%. A few former tea partiers, applegrove Dec 2011 #268
bullshit. nt bowens43 Dec 2011 #276
With all due respect Terry in Austin Dec 2011 #278
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