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Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:34 AM

obamanut2012 (9,971 posts)

17. The Football and other PSU officials hid criminal behavior

They should have been punished by the NCAA. This is WORSE than breaking a couple recruitment rules.

The football program wasn't killed. It is possible to enjoy an athletic contest when the team isn't spectacular. The stadium will still be filled, tailgaters will still eat and drink, and students and alums will still think St. Joe was railroaded, even if video came out of him holding down a child while Sandsky raped him.

And, most importantly: classes will still be held and degrees given. That is what a university is actually for.

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92 replies	Author	Time	Post
Penn State fans/alumni are having a HAL 9000-type psychotic break: [View all]	PCIntern	Jul 2012	OP
That's a good one about the sky...	joeybee12	Jul 2012	#1
Actually, the sky is Carolina Blue. Go Tar Heels!	11 Bravo	Jul 2012	#57
Actually, the sunset is bunt orange. Hook 'em Horns!	ashling	Jul 2012	#80
Grew up in central PA...Every Steelworker/Miner had two dreams for their boys::	Junkdrawer	Jul 2012	#2
I'm not sure that PA only rivals Texas in football social life.	Fawke Em	Jul 2012	#46
High School Football....	Junkdrawer	Jul 2012	#48
You forgot to mention deer season.	jerseyjack	Jul 2012	#3
+1	alcibiades_mystery	Jul 2012	#4
Not a myth	CANDO	Jul 2012	#49
Yes. Penn State, football, deer season. The holy trinity of rural and working class PA.	TwilightGardener	Jul 2012	#41
The NCAA penalties WERE draconian.	MercutioATC	Jul 2012	#5
I'm assuming this type of public punishment are also meant to send a message	lunatica	Jul 2012	#6
Maybe it's because I don't take sports as seriously as some.	MercutioATC	Jul 2012	#8
It wasn't the crime. It was the cover-up.	IdaBriggs	Jul 2012	#40
Very well said.	redqueen	Jul 2012	#56
The cover up made a one-person crime become the crime of all of them	DonRedwood	Jul 2012	#58
You missed something in all the reporting.	ieoeja	Jul 2012	#71
please, correct me if wrong, however, "...The guy who caught him in the showers..."	Raster	Jul 2012	#88
You are correct. That is exactly how he made him stop. Then he turned him into school admin. nt	ieoeja	Jul 2012	#90
Not to be the contrarian, however, it only made sandusky temporarily stop. After locker-slam guy...	Raster	Jul 2012	#92
Bingo.	hifiguy	Jul 2012	#60
College football is a business, period.	Ikonoklast	Jul 2012	#9
I don't see how the football program at Penn State is to blame.	MercutioATC	Jul 2012	#10
A man commits murder, goes to prison and his wife and children suffer...	joeybee12	Jul 2012	#19
But do we directly penalize the wife and kids?	MercutioATC	Jul 2012	#22
How are they directly penalized? It's not their money...	joeybee12	Jul 2012	#24
Reducing the number of scholarships by 20?	MercutioATC	Jul 2012	#27
Paterno covered for and permitted it to happen.	morningfog	Jul 2012	#43
Paterno had the most wins in College Football	ipfilter	Jul 2012	#76
True, but you don't fine the town that he lived in because he lived there.	joeglow3	Jul 2012	#53
The coverup was specifically to protect the football program. Of course it's to blame. (nt)	Posteritatis	Jul 2012	#63
you fail to see because you have no understanding..	frylock	Jul 2012	#65
i think it is appropriate and fair.	barbtries	Jul 2012	#11
I agree with you. How is pulling those millions in the 'fine' going to ......	marble falls	Jul 2012	#12
Exactly, punish the offending individuals,	MercutioATC	Jul 2012	#13
I think it is great. Send a message. Hit them where it hurts.	morningfog	Jul 2012	#44
The fine is going to help abused people.	IdaBriggs	Jul 2012	#42
"Nothing to do with sports..."	Alduin	Jul 2012	#16
As far as the INDIVIDUALS concerned, I agree	MercutioATC	Jul 2012	#18
The NCAA has no authority in academics.	Alduin	Jul 2012	#21
It's also a huge ethical issue and the NCAA does get involved with ethics at least sometimes..	Fumesucker	Jul 2012	#23
Neither you nor Alduin answered my question.	MercutioATC	Jul 2012	#26
Not penalizing the program would certainly send a message of approval to some..	Fumesucker	Jul 2012	#28
If this was for player steroid use or some form of cheating, I'd agree.	MercutioATC	Jul 2012	#30
Because it was largely the program that enabled Sandusky's crimes..	Fumesucker	Jul 2012	#47
So, you think the English department should be eliminated in the aforementioned question?	joeglow3	Jul 2012	#55
Penn State football was not eliminated	exboyfil	Jul 2012	#62
In fact, had the university English dept done this, the university might well have been eliminated.	ieoeja	Jul 2012	#75
sandusky's crimes were covered up by paterno and the athletic dept ffs!	frylock	Jul 2012	#69
which students are being penalized?	frylock	Jul 2012	#68
English teachers don't usually hang out in the locker room and	morningfog	Jul 2012	#45
what part of these "individuals" representing the "institution" are you not getting?	frylock	Jul 2012	#66
If his superiors in the English Department and college that it fell in helped cover it up, then yes.	whopis01	Jul 2012	#79
The Football and other PSU officials hid criminal behavior	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#17
Neither Paterno nor Sandusky are the Penn State football program.	MercutioATC	Jul 2012	#20
That's a situation that just wouldn't occur..	Fumesucker	Jul 2012	#29
I'm allergic to straw and other grasses	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#54
paterno was not only the football program, he was the most powerful MAN on campus!	frylock	Jul 2012	#70
How much money does the English department rake in?	KamaAina	Jul 2012	#77
Had an academic dept done this, the entire university should have been shuttered.	ieoeja	Jul 2012	#78
They needed to be. Do you think that all	Skidmore	Jul 2012	#39
Draconian and very wrong.	CANDO	Jul 2012	#50
Oh well. Not much YOU can do about that now can you?	devilgrrl	Jul 2012	#52
They're the ones that decided to not call the police, and just let little boys be raped.	Dash87	Jul 2012	#81
"If you knowingly let kids get raped" ... The PSU football players now being punished were ...	11 Bravo	Jul 2012	#82
It's the school being punished.	Dash87	Jul 2012	#83
"Appealing to the 'What about the PSU students' is lame because it acts as if the punishment ...	11 Bravo	Jul 2012	#84
You missed the second part	Dash87	Jul 2012	#89
the PSU players can fucking leave!	frylock	Jul 2012	#86
Hey, what's raping a few children compared to football?	RainDog	Jul 2012	#87
Which is why the NCAA is letting them transfer out of the program	hifiguy	Jul 2012	#91
do share	barbtries	Jul 2012	#7
It went like this:	Hassin Bin Sober	Jul 2012	#35
lol	barbtries	Jul 2012	#36
Have them sing 'Daisy' as they go under.	doohnibor	Jul 2012	#14
I disgree with you about one thing	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#15
We should pay close attention. This is what it looks like when you topple over someone's sacred cow.	Baitball Blogger	Jul 2012	#25
Implosion and supernova...	PCIntern	Jul 2012	#31
Hopefully they'll go out with a whimper and not a bang.	Baitball Blogger	Jul 2012	#33
Well, they need to get over it and GROW THE FUCK UP	hatrack	Jul 2012	#32
Don't joke about this sort of thing	4th law of robotics	Jul 2012	#34
I'm sure they hate asterisks now too.	lpbk2713	Jul 2012	#37
Yeah...tough shit. nt	PCIntern	Jul 2012	#38
It's completely mind boggling how many Paterno / Penn State fans are in denial.	Initech	Jul 2012	#51
What sort of conversations? Any epiphanies?	pnwmom	Jul 2012	#59
It takes time for people to understand that their heros are, after all, only	1monster	Jul 2012	#61
Some of the responses in this thread certainly prove your point, don't they? (nt)	Posteritatis	Jul 2012	#64
That very disconnect appears even within this thread...	LanternWaste	Jul 2012	#67
It's terrible. I've accepted reality though.	Avalux	Jul 2012	#72
This message was self-deleted by its author	JoePhilly	Jul 2012	#73
I grew up in Philly, so I believe it.	JoePhilly	Jul 2012	#74
great post	RainDog	Jul 2012	#85

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