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AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
66. And?
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:54 PM
Jul 2012

How about Korea. Approximately the same near-total ban on firearms as Japan. Suicide rate 31/100,000. (10/100k higher than Japan even)


Even though they make up the lion's share of suicides AND the lion's share of gun-related deaths in the united states, our total suicide rate is 11.8/100,000 per year.

Perspective is important.

There are certainly examples of nations with tighter gun control than the US, with lower suicide rates, like the UK. Suicide is more of a cultural issue, as you pointed out, the weapon employed to accomplish it is largely irrelevant. As we can see by looking at the list of countries with the highest suicide rates, firearms are pretty incidental.

GASP! I don't know how you do it, NRA Manny. xchrom Jul 2012 #1
Thank you for your acknowledgement of our suffering MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #2
where the hell do you live? lilithsrevenge12 Jul 2012 #71
Didn't Mitt Romney pass that gun law when he was Gov? Another reason not to vote for him. nt nanabugg Jul 2012 #28
That gun law predates Romney's reign of error by many years jmowreader Jul 2012 #39
Passed in 1998 MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #44
I didn't know they had a new law, sorry jmowreader Jul 2012 #86
What a horribly disgusting place. 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2012 #3
I fear for our children MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #4
I know,...they might even keep their adult teeth past the age of 25.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #30
you really should add a sarcasm tag booley Jul 2012 #5
POE? MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #6
Point of entry? I'm guessing. Tunkamerica Jul 2012 #17
"Poe's Law." tblue37 Jul 2012 #34
Thanks for this MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #41
I figured it out at the end booley Jul 2012 #56
But haven't we been told that Strict Gun Control = More Deaths? Patiod Jul 2012 #7
And in our gut, we know that fewer guns=more deaths MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #8
Yet the violent crime rate in Massachusetts is more than 3 times higher than New Hampshire... LAGC Jul 2012 #9
Have you ever driven on New Hampshire roads to go kill someone? Ian David Jul 2012 #52
That is so true. Jennicut Jul 2012 #57
To get to No Weare you have to drive through Weare. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #77
the violent crime rate in Massachusetts is more than 3 times higher than New Hampshire... AlbertCat Jul 2012 #61
Let me clarify... LAGC Jul 2012 #90
Where did you get your numbers? Blecht Jul 2012 #10
Did you see the link I provided? MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #14
I had overlooked the link Blecht Jul 2012 #85
If you count suicides, yes. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #24
"nations with extremely strict gun control still have higher suicide rates" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #32
(See Japan) AlbertCat Jul 2012 #63
And? AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #66
Perspective is important. AlbertCat Jul 2012 #67
I will never go to Massachusetts! Chorophyll Jul 2012 #11
Oh the humanity! beac Jul 2012 #12
and with the Red Sox playing like they are, it's a good thing, too! NRaleighLiberal Jul 2012 #13
PawSox rock MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #16
...and don't forget the Lowell Spinners! FailureToCommunicate Jul 2012 #82
Indeed! nt MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #89
Wait! You mean TOUGHER gun laws mean LESS gun deaths? Lex Jul 2012 #15
Hey Einstien, check out Chicago murder rate and get back to me! Logical Jul 2012 #18
Go whisper sweet things to your gun. Lex Jul 2012 #19
LOL, nice excuse not to admit Chicago has tight gun laws! So much... Logical Jul 2012 #21
Guns wont stop murder in chicago iamthebandfanman Jul 2012 #27
That's a bit of a problem since Chicago is practically a nation unto itself. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #35
That would be a really interesting statement if you showed MA had a high gun death rate prior to AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #25
YUP, just like in Mexico. Tejas Jul 2012 #40
Higher education levels and lower levels of poverty means LESS gun deaths. nt hack89 Jul 2012 #47
I live in opposite state Colorado mountain grammy Jul 2012 #20
You should have lived there before all the assholes from Texas and the east coast moved in and Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #36
I've lived here 30 years mountain grammy Jul 2012 #80
The sad thing? gcomeau Jul 2012 #22
I never leave home without my hydrogen bomb. Never know when I'll need it. nt valerief Jul 2012 #23
I take it you have a fast car. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #33
My brother in law, who is a hunter and has been since he was a kid, is a MA resident. MADem Jul 2012 #26
What an excellent & creative post Manny sasha031 Jul 2012 #29
It seems that the discrepancy between MA and NH is in suicides petronius Jul 2012 #31
So why is MA's murder rate increasing? Union Scribe Jul 2012 #37
Because this warped culture drives many people insane. Zorra Jul 2012 #38
If you picked 2009 instead of 2010, you'd show it was level or decreasing MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #45
The trend is clearly upwards. Nice try, though. nt Union Scribe Jul 2012 #58
The trend is clearly upwards. AlbertCat Jul 2012 #65
It is in spite of gun laws, that is fact. Union Scribe Jul 2012 #88
I disagree MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #73
As only MG could put it madokie Jul 2012 #42
You guys are really a bunch of Commie pinkos. Vinca Jul 2012 #43
Very clever. That's a great bar argument waiting to happen. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #46
first they will want you to register your guns - then they will want you to register your car. Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #48
Of Course Mass. Has Tough Gun Laws. Without Them, The Red Sox Wouldn't Be Able To Field A Team Yavin4 Jul 2012 #49
But assaults with Baked Beans are much higher than elsewhere cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #50
Same with the DUI laws. Was it really worth all the profits and jobs to stiffen DUI laws? brewens Jul 2012 #51
I don't know where you got your pseudo-statistics, but they're not even close to accurate slackmaster Jul 2012 #53
there were 12,996 murders in the US. Of those, 8,775 were caused by firearms. Kalidurga Jul 2012 #78
You're doing that satirical things of yours again, aren't you? (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2012 #54
I'm moving there asap DiverDave Jul 2012 #55
Win. WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #59
Cask & Flagon? aquart Jul 2012 #76
Quite the opposite, actually WilliamPitt Jul 2012 #79
Thanks, I'm still laughing. Progressive dog Jul 2012 #60
It's damn hard to parody over the top hysterics on a topic like this. Bucky Jul 2012 #62
I like the cut of your jib, Manny. Gold Metal Flake Jul 2012 #64
Don't ask, don't tell... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #70
Damnit Manny... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #68
Kick and Rec LiberalLovinLug Jul 2012 #69
you forgot the sarcasm smiley n/t librechik Jul 2012 #72
Just for you... MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #74
my fingers are deadly weapons librechik Jul 2012 #75
Yeah but how many Lizzie Bordens do you have every year? bucolic_frolic Jul 2012 #81
DU rec FailureToCommunicate Jul 2012 #83
Wish CA was the same! nt abelenkpe Jul 2012 #84
But what about that knife attack klook Jul 2012 #87
Ah, Boston... my home away from home Curtland1015 Jul 2012 #91
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