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pinboy3niner

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157. "...used only about 300 times a year to commit murder"

Sun Jul 22, 2012, 04:05 PM

Jul 2012

Isn't 300 times to commit murder 300 times too much? And how about if we add handgun murders? Long arms are not our only problem.

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I just heard the story of one of the victims [View all] lunatica Jul 2012 OP

Assault Weapons are a myth. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #1

large magazines are not a myth though Schema Thing Jul 2012 #3

True. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #5

This thread is about a six year old child, not a forum for selling NRA propaganda lunatica Jul 2012 #6

I don't want to sell anything. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #8

+1 flamingdem Jul 2012 #39

You opened the door with the Brady Bunch talking point. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #60

Please explain ~ which part of what he/she said is "the Brady Bunch talking point"?? KarenS Jul 2012 #70

She wrote: "I'm not for banning guns, but I AM for banning fucking assault weapons!" aikoaiko Jul 2012 #76

Another warm hearted gun apologist lunatica Jul 2012 #108

I'm upset with this tragedy too. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #117

that someone has been lunatica Jul 2012 #143

What were you right on the money about? aikoaiko Jul 2012 #144

All the NRA types think and care about liberalhistorian Jul 2012 #81

The child is dead. The mother is the paraplegic. RC Jul 2012 #88

I corrected that lunatica Jul 2012 #109

You were the one who brought up gun, not the other poster Travis_0004 Jul 2012 #139

This thread started out as one about a six year old 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #161

So that's when it became of interest to you right? lunatica Jul 2012 #162

I clicked on it because of the title 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #164

And that's what caught your attention enough to respond lunatica Jul 2012 #166

You used a story about the victim 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #167

Thank you! It makes me sick when a tragedy like this happens and all the pro-gun smirkymonkey Jul 2012 #172

First of all, 30 rounds is ridiculously large. Schema Thing Jul 2012 #12

yes! a few seconds to interfere sdfernando Jul 2012 #25

30 rounds is not "ridiculously large". bluedigger Jul 2012 #43

ANY number of rounds is ridiculously large. ananda Jul 2012 #46

no, you couldn't be more wrong if you were a republican douchebag Schema Thing Jul 2012 #49

Good grief, 30 round magazines are standard capacity for the AR-15. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #63

So ban AR-15s. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #83

Do you honestly think there's the slightest chance of that happening in the foreseeable future? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #87

No. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #89

So you're just venting when you speak of banning guns. I respect you for acknowledging it. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #90

I've never said ban all guns. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #99

And, as you have acknowledged, such bans and checks aren't going to happen for decades at least. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #132

Yes, good! UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #147

Are there people here that are hired by the NRA to go out on movonne Jul 2012 #129

Beats me, I'm not a member. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #134

Short answer bongbong Jul 2012 #169

Yup. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #106

Nice logic. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #145

I wouldn't know about that. bluedigger Jul 2012 #96

Thankfully illegal in my state Marrah_G Jul 2012 #75

Husband is a hunter. According to Fish & Game rules, tsuki Jul 2012 #67

Deadliness exaggerated. undeterred Jul 2012 #23

STTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPP! malaise Jul 2012 #33

malaise, don't you see? This is a forum to talk about ammo and guns and capacity and rapidity. CTyankee Jul 2012 #73

I simply cannot believe it malaise Jul 2012 #86

Adding this thread malaise Jul 2012 #94

Of course it makes a difference!!!! citizen blues Jul 2012 #59

No. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #107

Jared Loughner was tackled while changing a mag and the carnage stopped. n/t savalez Jul 2012 #159

If it's a myth why would anyone oppose a ban? lunatica Jul 2012 #4

It's a class of weapons created from thin air. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #7

Is the NRA paying you to post here? lunatica Jul 2012 #9

Sorry you feel that way. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #13

The poster is giving you facts which have nothing to do with the NRA nt Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #14

This thread is about a six year old child, not a forum for selling NRA propaganda lunatica Jul 2012 #15

The OP added guns into the post so brought the subject up first I believe. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2012 #44

Exactly right. It's rather odd for someone to complain when a point in their *own* OP is addressed! Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #62

Facts are sure pesky things, aren't they? Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #17

This thread is about a six year old child, not a forum for selling NRA propaganda lunatica Jul 2012 #26

Here's another pesky fact: it was your OP that brought up the subject of banning Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #28

So did you miss the part about Ashley and just skipped to defending assault weapons? lunatica Jul 2012 #31

You brought up the subject of banning assault weapons, not me. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #36

Still ignoring the dead child I see. lunatica Jul 2012 #58

The child in question isn't the subject I was addressing. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #110

Relax the gun huggers and strokers on DU MattBaggins Jul 2012 #103

If you want to regulate something, you have to KNOW something about that which eridani Jul 2012 #79

I wasn't the one using the term "Brady Bunch" lunatica Jul 2012 #149

Why are you posting gun porn in this thread?? Please, stop. n/t KarenS Jul 2012 #78

So ban semi-automatic weapons and clips that UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #85

tell your NRA talking point to Ashley CreekDog Jul 2012 #11

I'm sorry. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #16

Ok I will make it clear as day for you nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #21

Why? JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #24

You want to go hunting? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #32

I dont hunt JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #40

You of course realize nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #42

So what type of gun control do you think would help avert tragedies like this one? wildeyed Jul 2012 #57

Not a flower, but that is a nice talking point nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #66

Could you be any more insensitive. Not a damned word or concern for the victims... hlthe2b Jul 2012 #128

but THAT is how NRA propganda works Skittles Jul 2012 #135

please PLEASE stop pimping for the NRA Skittles Jul 2012 #133

The dead don't care about the trivial technical minutiae of firearms design. baldguy Jul 2012 #146

Assault Weapons are a myth Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #155

I so very much agree with you. spartan61 Jul 2012 #2

I agree, even though it is an unpopular view. Frustratedlady Jul 2012 #10

They're catapulting the propaganda now lunatica Jul 2012 #18

I'm very sorry about your friend. Don't liberalhistorian Jul 2012 #84

They're just another far right fringe group that's got a foothold in the govt Doctor_J Jul 2012 #104

Clarification nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #19

Thanks for the clarification lunatica Jul 2012 #20

I was upset with Columbine nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #22

We should never stop being upset lunatica Jul 2012 #27

It is unacceptable nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #29

The death of Ashley is totally overlooked lunatica Jul 2012 #34

They (the gun worshipers) should be enraged Ineeda Jul 2012 #65

How about the deaths of the 11 others? kurtzapril4 Jul 2012 #72

What are you talking about? lunatica Jul 2012 #95

Here is why the do not talk about further laws GarroHorus Jul 2012 #30

It's a stupid argument malaise Jul 2012 #35

SCOTUS separated the milita thing from the right in their decision GarroHorus Jul 2012 #91

Fuck those RW scumbags malaise Jul 2012 #100

Majority decided by Roberts, Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas and Alito GarroHorus Jul 2012 #102

So what militia unit do you drill with regularly nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #37

Right-wing SCOTUS bongbong Jul 2012 #170

Another victim was a 27 year old man celebrating his birthday--and will leave a widow mnhtnbb Jul 2012 #38

I feel the city of Aurora is filled with victims of this crime. lunatica Jul 2012 #97

Well, of course. The stories are only beginning to come out as victims are ID'd mnhtnbb Jul 2012 #148

This did it. liberalmuse Jul 2012 #41

Sane gun owners should be the first to want security clearance lunatica Jul 2012 #98

Why? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #45

But.. ananda Jul 2012 #48

So? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #71

Your logic lunatica Jul 2012 #74

In what way? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #153

"...used only about 300 times a year to commit murder" pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #157

Compared to what? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #158

Sorry, I have a hard time seeing a lot of murders as "absurdly low" pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #160

Nuclear weapons killed 0 people last year, much less than hands OR feet, clearly I should own one Dragonfli Jul 2012 #150

Ah, the old nuclear weapon red herring. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #152

Obviously you don't want any ban of any kind on weapons lunatica Jul 2012 #53

I certainly don't want a ban on long arms. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #69

Guns 9000 hands and feet 800. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #131

What makes mass murder any more serious than single murder? Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #151

A seriously stupid question at this point in tme. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #154

America is under attack from within-greed of the American gun industry. ErikJ Jul 2012 #47

Problem/reaction/solution. down is up Jul 2012 #50

Holmes was tampered with ??? ananda Jul 2012 #51

Another idiotic statement from a new member lunatica Jul 2012 #54

Former member :) pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #56

. lunatica Jul 2012 #64

I was wondering how long nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #68

tampered with? hmmmm. please enlighten us. spanone Jul 2012 #163

and the four month old baby. n/t mzteris Jul 2012 #52

It breaks my heart lunatica Jul 2012 #55

Me too. I can't even imagine what this family is going through. snappyturtle Jul 2012 #82

And large clips. skip fox Jul 2012 #77

I really hate that every time someone tries to discuss rational gun law, the pro gun gang likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #80

And you will also notice that they do the same thing when multiple people die by gun. RC Jul 2012 #92

And they even post photos of the weapons lunatica Jul 2012 #93

there has got to be a psychological profile somewhere about this phenomenom. I have seen CTyankee Jul 2012 #101

Yes. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #114

Now you're getting it lunatica Jul 2012 #130

Haha JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #111

I think marijuana should be legal lunatica Jul 2012 #113

So do I. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #116

LOL bongbong Jul 2012 #171

So you hate facts being introduced into an argument. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #112

Facts aren't obtuse and heartless lunatica Jul 2012 #115

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #118

You joined yesterday just to chat guns on DU....and you accuse others of trolling? likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #120

If he accuses people of his sins first, then no one will notice his sins will they? lunatica Jul 2012 #123

Oh, ain't that rich? Yesterday? Holy cow! CTyankee Jul 2012 #141

The NRA must be paying you well lunatica Jul 2012 #122

No kidding. Joined yesterday, coincidence? Just here to spew gun shit. likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #124

I'm a long time lurker. JeepJK556 Jul 2012 #126

LOL! lunatica Jul 2012 #136

Elvis is back to lurking. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #138

Oops! lunatica Jul 2012 #140

Ah, he has done his work among us. And now he is gone...well, that was brief! CTyankee Jul 2012 #142

I like facts, but sometimes the details don't matter that much. If someone drove in to a crowd of likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #119

Brings back horrible memories of the DC/MD sniper Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2012 #105

I saw her aunt interviewed on the news. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #121

I'm with you on this one. likesmountains 52 Jul 2012 #125

Well I hated that it was highjacked in an effort lunatica Jul 2012 #127

Thats why they are here, sis. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #137

How is it "hijacking" when people are responding to statements in the OP? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #165

that's really sad Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #156

The saddest story... and this from Whittier. ananda Jul 2012 #168