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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:27 AM

FOX Is A Mess...The Right Wing Has Learned Nothing...We Will Be Golden...

Prior to the election I studiously avoided FOX. But now that my foes have been vanquished I am tuning in to get my schadenfreude fix and revel in my enemy's misery.

I tuned in the O'ReillyFactor and he had on noted failed pundits and pollsters including Dick Morris and Scott Rasmussen. There were no questions to Rasmussen about his horrid polling this season including picking the wrong winner in NC, FL, VA, and NH, and in the entire nation. Ras essentially said the electorate looked like America, a diverse one , and nobody expected that. Well, nobody on the right expected that because you , Gallup, and most of the other right leaning pollsters were releasing results that suggested the electorate would look more like 1912 than 2012. You know, lots of white folks, and not many Latinos, Asians, and African Americans.

Dick Morris actually said pretty much the same thing... The man is evil but he's not a fool...Or maybe he's both...Who knows... I think he told his right wing audience who consists largely of innumerate goobers who long for for an America that is no more and never really was that America was not going to re-elect the black fella because they pay for his hookers and that's what they want to hear.


Larry Sabato was on... He did a so so job in pre-election analysis. He had O winning 290-248. He would have been more accurate if he embraced the Bayesian models built by his colleagues in political science like Drew Linzer and Simon Jackman. He tried to tell O'Reilly that the Republicans had a demographic problem that was real and threatened the viability of the party at the national level. O'Reilly's retort was the economy will tank and the Democrats will be finished...That was his analysis. When challenged on it he offered no evidence beyond "Trust me."

How did that jackwagon get a graduate degree from the John F Kennedy School Of Government at Harvard? Because he was a celebrity?

The bottom line is the right is still living in their bubble and that means we're golden.









*From memory. It might be worse.

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Reply FOX Is A Mess...The Right Wing Has Learned Nothing...We Will Be Golden... (Original post)
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 OP
DCBob Nov 2012 #1
NewJeffCT Nov 2012 #2
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #9
exboyfil Nov 2012 #3
question everything Nov 2012 #17
exboyfil Nov 2012 #19
AlinPA Nov 2012 #4
Johnny2X2X Nov 2012 #5
Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #6
barnabas63 Nov 2012 #7
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #10
barnabas63 Nov 2012 #11
yellowcanine Nov 2012 #8
CANDO Nov 2012 #12
jcgoldie Nov 2012 #15
TexasTowelie Nov 2012 #24
RosedaleGuy Nov 2012 #13
-LOKI -BAD FOR YA Nov 2012 #14
yashoo Nov 2012 #16
question everything Nov 2012 #18
DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #20
RosedaleGuy Nov 2012 #21
octoberlib Nov 2012 #22
SLCLiberal Nov 2012 #23

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:33 AM

1. "the economy will tank and the Democrats will be finished'

that was the same line they used in 2008.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:35 AM

2. well, a lot of people on here said the GOP was finished after 2008

and, then we got the Teabagger results in 2010.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:00 AM

9. The Difference Is The Demographic Wave That Threatens To Drown The Republicans Is Real/nt

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:43 AM

3. A dream of mine would be for

a State Department official to beard the lion on Benghazi. Go onto to Hannity with the understanding that he has 5 uninterrupted minutes to present his case on Benghazi and then the administration will have five uninterrupted minutes on his show to present their understanding including Powerpoint and documents as needed.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:51 AM

17. Why only Benghazi, why only Hannity?

All of them, including Chris Matthews and Jon Stewart should let their guests talk. Stewart has the shortest time for interview but he asks, and then rephrase his question and pretty much half the time allotted is gone.

Were I a guest on either of there, I would just get up, remove the mic and would say: you obviously are not interested in what I have to say so why continue the self dialogue with yourself?

Which is why I never will be there...

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Response to question everything (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:58 AM

19. Fox news is the biggest problem

They have gone way out on the limb with Benghazi with incredible tales. Let Hannity set the pins up and have the official knock them down. No Fox viewer would watch Chris Matthews. John Stewart is not a real journalist and would not be watched by Fox viewers.

I would say O'Reilly, but incredibly he is smarter and less destructive than Hannity. I think between Hannity's hubris and his intellect, he would get utterly creamed. My other wish would be a fixed debate format in which the mic. is turned off when time ends between Hannity and Maddow, but even Hannity is not that stupid.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:44 AM

4. What comes out to me in your post is that the GOP and Fox 'news' are bound together.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:49 AM

5. DNA

It's in their DNA to resist new ideas and change old ones. It's the very definition of Conservatism.

This bodes well for Liberals and progressives.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:50 AM

6. Fox and Friends and Relatives


I was really hoping that since they did not look at the evidence that they were losing (Nate, Princton) that this would translate into maybe we're not looking at other facts or evidence either, but it is I that am delusional. Fox continues to spin events with fantasy and in untruths will stay. My relatives are still with Fox looking for answers they will not find there still not realizing, "they can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking they used when they created them."  (Einstein) 

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:51 AM

7. O'Really says Romney should have picked Marco Rubio..

..to show Hispanics that the party "respected" them. Oh yeah....that's all it will take! Those Hispanics just need a bone thrown to them, and business as usual can continue for the GOP! Well, thank god they're that stupid.

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Response to barnabas63 (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:01 AM

10. Reminds Me Of The Sopranos Where They Find A Guy Who Was 1/6 Native American

They used him to get a gaming license.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:06 AM

11. Well, minorities do come with their special privileges!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:54 AM

8. The Republican Party is not finished, at least not yet. But there is going to be

a major fight for the soul of the party in the off year elections of 2014 leading up to 2016. It may start with the fiscal cliff fight if Cantor decides to challenge Boehner for Speaker of the new Congress. He will lose, imo, which is probably why he will not try it. But if Boehner compromises enough to get Democrats to support a budget proposal which includes higher taxes on the wealthy he will face a tea party challenge in 2014 and the fat will be in the fire. Watch for the tea party to challenge Christie in the NJ gubernatorial primary in 2014 also.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:52 AM

12. My barber is a wing nut.

He always has Faux on. This morning he changed the channel! Said he's tired of non-stop politics. I've never talked politics with him, even though he's tried.

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Response to CANDO (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:45 AM

15. don't take the bait!

He may take it out on your hair!

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Response to CANDO (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:19 PM

24. He is still in the denial phase.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:24 AM

13. The GOP has no future

It's not just the changing demographics. The world is becoming increasingly interconnected. It's becoming less rural and more urban. Young people are growing up free of the bigotry of past generations. The desire for war is waning throughout the world. The GOP's days are numbered.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:31 AM

14. i am happy to see they have learned nothing.a hard head make a soft ass n\t

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:46 AM

16. The GOP is no longer fighting a political war

They are fighting what they genuinely believe is a holy war. They cannot change, they will not change

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:52 AM

18. The sight of Meghan what's here name, or spelling

walking down the plank to find the real numbers is priceless.

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Response to question everything (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:01 PM

20. I Think It's Megyn Kelly

And then they needed to bring in Michael Barone to talk Rove down.

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Response to question everything (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:56 PM

21. Well, I enjoyed the sight too...

...but for different reasons.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:13 PM

22. On Twitter , the rethugs are tweeting that they need to get rid of Boehner

They don't like it that he's trying to work with Democrats. I don't trust Boehner at all and think he'll probably demand cuts in earned benefits in exchange for increasing taxes. These people are doomed. They haven't learned anything.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:18 PM

23. Very little

introspective narrative over there. It's all "People want free stuff, more than they want to work."

Keep thinking that way and we'll keep winning.

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