Sat Sep 22, 2012, 11:14 AM
Blue Yorker (436 posts)
Rand tracking poll (Saturday): another all time high for Obama todayLast edited Sat Sep 22, 2012, 11:14 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Plus he extended his lead to an all-time high (again), while Republican pollser Rasmussen tied things up as expected.
https://mmicdata.rand.org/alp/index.php?page=election
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| Blue Yorker | Sep 2012 | OP | |
| DemocratSinceBirth | Sep 2012 | #1 | |
| smorkingapple | Sep 2012 | #2 | |
| DemocratSinceBirth | Sep 2012 | #3 | |
| 7worldtrade | Sep 2012 | #4 |
Response to Blue Yorker (Original post)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 11:21 AM
DemocratSinceBirth (46,047 posts)
1. I Have Been Following That Poll And Other Internet Trackers
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I find them interesting ... The problem is they violate the first rule of polling; that you have a random sample.
That being said some of them did pretty good in 08 like yougov... |
Response to Blue Yorker (Original post)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 11:32 AM
smorkingapple (706 posts)
2. Here's their writeup on methodology
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https://mmicdata.rand.org/alp/index.php?page=election
Why This Poll Is Different
First, it allows us to ask the same people for their opinion repeatedly over time. In comparison to most polls, this leads to much more stable outcomes; changes that we see are true changes in people's opinions and not the result of random fluctuations in who gets asked the questions. Second, we may be more accurately capturing the likely votes of a greater number of voters in the crucial “middle” (i.e., not closely aligned with either candidate) by allowing respondents to more precisely assign their own numerical probability (or percent chance) to both the likelihood that they will vote and the likelihood that they will vote for a particular candidate. By comparison, traditional polls may not be fully capturing the intentions of these voters because they rely on less precise qualitative metrics (such as somewhat likely and somewhat unlikely) when asking respondents to indicate for whom they may vote and the likelihood that they will vote. How the Poll Works Since July 5, 3,500 participants in the RAND American Life Panel (all U.S. citizens over the age of 18) have been invited to answer three questions every week: What is the percent chance that you will vote in the Presidential election? What is the percent chance that you will vote for Obama, Romney, someone else? What is the percent chance that Obama, Romney, someone else will win? |
Response to smorkingapple (Reply #2)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 11:39 AM
DemocratSinceBirth (46,047 posts)
3. It's Interesting
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And their results are in line with the poll of polls average.
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Response to Blue Yorker (Original post)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 12:04 PM
7worldtrade (48 posts)
4. If its good enough for Nate . . . .
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Nate SilverVerified @fivethirtyeight We're adding the RAND national tracking poll to our database. Methodology is unorthodox, but (IMO) in a smart way. http://bit.ly/TwwL6k http://twitter.com/fivethirtyeight/status/244609517994786816 |

