Tue May 29, 2012, 11:10 AM
rug (54,196 posts)
Bruce Schneier vs. Sam Harris
May 29, 2012 at 4:24 am PZ Myers
The debate on profiling has been going on, and is now published. I think Schneier has rather thoroughly demolished Harrisís arguments. Hereís his wrap-up, if you donít want to read the whole thing.
The topic of this exchange, and the topic Iíve tried to stick to, is whether it makes sense to implement a two-tiered security system at airports, where "Muslims, or anyone who could conceivably be Muslim" get a higher tier of security and everyone else gets a lower tier. I have concluded that it does not, for the following reasons. One, the only benefit is efficiency. Two, the result is lower security because 1) not all Muslims can be identified by appearance, 2) screeners will make mistakes in implementing whatever profiling system you have in mind, and 3) not all terrorists are Muslim. Three, there are substantial monetary costs in implementing this system, in setting the system up, in administering it across all airports, and in paying for TSA screeners who can implement it. And four, there is an inefficiency in operating the system that isnít there if screeners treat everyone the same way. Conclusion: airport profiling based on this ethnic and religious characteristic does not make sense.
And while youíve objected to bits and pieces of this, the only argument you have made for this profiling system is that itís common sense.
But hereís the real bottom line:
But perhaps most importantly, we should refuse to be terrorized. Terrorism isnít really a crime against people or property; itís a crime against our minds. If we are terrorized, then the terrorists win even if their plots fail. If we refuse to be terrorized, then the terrorists lose even if their plots succeed.
To each according to his need.
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Tue May 29, 2012, 01:58 PM
Warren Stupidity (34,718 posts)
1. Sam Harris is out his league in that debate. Plus he should 'fess up to being a racist git.
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