Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:22 PM
TPaine7 (4,286 posts)
NYC Cop charged with conspiring to kidnap, torture, cook and eat women.
Only people like this fine, "highly trained," "psychologically tested," government approved, "sworn officer of the law" should be able to carry guns in public. Of course:
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A New York City police officer was charged on Thursday with conspiring to kidnap, torture, cook and eat women whose names he listed in his computer.
In a criminal complaint unsealed in Manhattan federal court, Gilberto Valle III, 28, of Forest Hills, Queens, was charged with conspiring to cross state lines to kidnap the women and with illegally accessing a federal database. The charges carry a maximum sentence of life in prison.
Investigators uncovered a file on Valle's computer containing the names and pictures of at least 100 women, and the addresses and physical descriptions of some of them, according to the complaint. It said he had undertaken surveillance of some of the women at their places of employment and their homes.
Valle was arrested Wednesday by the FBI.
In an excerpt of a July conversation with an unnamed co-conspirator, Valle is quoted in the complaint as saying: "I can just show up at her home unannounced. It will not alert her, and I can knock her out, wait until dark and kidnap her right out of her home."
So many here have made the case that only those employed by the government--or by the very rich and well connected, typically the 1%--should have guns, at least in public. I have also been instructed that ordinary citizens should ALWAYS do exactly as police officers instruct them, without exception, just like a true believer getting direct instructions from the Almighty.
Others have made clear that if their lives were threatened, they do not want a CCW permittee to come to their rescue. They only want police to protect them, and only police should be armed in their presence.
Well I might be in the minority, but I would rather have any of the CCW carriers I know--or a random stranger from the mall--armed around me than this member of New York City's "finest." I'm just funny that way.
Be warned: I have a can of beans and I can open it under water while riding a bicycle -paraphrase of rrneck
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NYC Cop charged with conspiring to kidnap, torture, cook and eat women. (Original post)
Response to TPaine7 (Original post)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 03:36 PM
DHelix (89 posts)
1. My immediate reaction was "How many unsolved crimes were committed by cops?"
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It's a terrifying thought and I do have a cousin -- a good man -- on the force. I know there are tons of good cops too but it does make one wonder. For men who are into this thing what better profession, right? That logic is specifically what made the show Dexter so chilling.
I had a run in with a cop once when my (then girlfriend, now wife's) car broke down. The cop came up to our car, looked at my GF and said, "This guy has to be your brother, right?" He laughed but it was a passive aggressive play and I hated it. When she said no he laughed and said, "Well, he's fine here. He can handle this mess himself. Where are you going? I can give you a ride" to her. She said we'd already called roadside assistance and shortly afterward the tow truck driver arrived. We then got into his truck together while he towed our car and told me that the cop we spoke to always drinks on the job. The cop was a good 20-25 years older than both of us.
To that day I've been cautious around cops and always made a point to try and read their names on their uniforms. Most are good but I shudder at the thought of how many bad ones are out there.
Response to holdencaufield (Reply #3)
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:43 AM
discntnt_irny_srcsm (6,962 posts)
5. I'm guessing...
...pre-soylent that's been frisked is tastier.
The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.