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Tue Dec 27, 2011, 02:24 AM

'Ron Paul wishes Israel didn't exist'

Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul negates Israel's right to exist, Eric Dondero, who served as a senior aide to the 76-year-old Texas congressman for over 12 years, said on Monday.

In a blog posted in Rightwing News, Dondero said that while Paul was, in his opinion, neither a racist nor an anti-Semite, he is very much anti-Israel. "I worked for the man for 12 years (and) I never heard a racist word expressed towards Blacks or Jews come out of his mouth… I can categorically say that I never heard anything out of his mouth, in hundreds of speeches I listened to over the years, that could be called, anti-Semite," he writes.

But according to Dondero, the elderly congressman "wishes the Israeli state did not exist at all."

The congressman's former aide insists in his blog that Paul expressed the controversial sentiment "numerous times in our private conversations." Paul's view, he said, "is that Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the America taxpayer. He sides with the Palestinians, and supports their calls for the abolishment of the Jewish state, and the return of Israel, all of it, to the Arabs."

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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4167257,00.html


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Response to shira (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 02:26 AM

1. That explains some of his popularity on the "left."

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 03:09 AM

3. Is he now? I've seen stuff on Paul here on DU most of it is quite negative however

but if you say so it does play oh so well with the left is really the same the right meme ,

all of which I guess would make Newt and Mitt centrist?

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 03:11 AM

4. "some"

some
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being an undetermined or unspecified one: Some person may object. (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/some)

Strawman

A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man)

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 03:16 AM

5. well ya that is what some means but I already knew that

thanks anyway

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 03:17 AM

6. Given your response, I wasn't sure you knew.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 03:22 AM

7. well now you know thanks however IMO once you support Paul who is a Republican

your no longer on the Left same with other politicians too, especially if you support a Rightist over a single issue no matter what that issue may be most Rightists carry enough negative baggage to make support impossible

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 03:24 AM

8. Interesting.

I actually agree to some degree. However, I doubt many of the "anti-war" supporters who claim to be "left" would agree with your statement. It is the burden of the single-issue voter.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 04:57 AM

9. Paul isn't popular on the left. He is popular with the conspiraloons and the single-issue antiwar

voters, some of whom call themselves left-wing.

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Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 05:06 AM

10. With some of the "left", he most certainly is popular.

And your reasons, are the "some."

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 01:13 PM

12. He also gets some support on the left for his views on the "drug war"

I even saw a thread here a while back calling for a third party Paul/Kucinich ticket.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 01:39 PM

13. Progressives for Ron Paul

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Response to Mosby (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 01:40 PM

14. (Youtube) Why Progressives Should Support Ron Paul

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Response to shira (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 03:06 AM

2. In contrast "Obama isn't good enough"

Israel is again facing a very dangerous and unstable time. The Arab Spring has turned into a nightmare of Muslim extremism, with dangerous weapons falling into the hands of terrorist groups.

Hence, Israel cannot afford to have a reluctant US president, like Barack Obama, who will not be there when the Jewish state needs unquestioned and immediate support. Only a president who truly appreciates the Israel-US alliance and values Israel as America’s most important Mideast ally will not use the upcoming danger as a bargaining chip to further weaken Israel.

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In contrast, both Romney and Gingrich have made it clear that the US should be willing to stand by its allies and both have criticized Obama’s ambivalence towards Israel. Both have repeatedly pledged to bolster and repair the US-Israel alliance.


Romney’s statement that” Our friends, like Israel, should never fear that we will not stand by them in an hour of need” and Gingrich‘s political courage to state that the Palestinians are “invented people” are the perfect responses to Obama’s Muslim outreach. Now, the Republicans must make sure to nominate the candidate who has the best chance to beat Obama.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4166837,00.html

in Israel the American election season has begun and Newt or Mitt are the men for Israel

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Response to shira (Original post)

Tue Dec 27, 2011, 05:10 AM

11. He's said worse than this, which is directly on record:

'Any academic discussion questioning the wisdom of our policies surrounding World War II is met with shrill accusations of anti-Semitism and Nazi lover. No one is even permitted without derision by the media, the university intellectuals, and the politicians to ask why the United States allied itself with the murdering Soviets and then turned over Eastern Europe to them while ushering in a 45-year saber-rattling dangerous cold war period.'

From his speech, 'A Republic if You Can Keep It'.

From the OP:
'Israel is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the American taxpayer'

Sums up his views on life in general: nothing is more important than saving any trouble to the American taxpayer! In fact, he seems in most respects to have the attitude that *America* (as a state) is more trouble than it is worth, specifically to the American taxpayer!

I doubt that this vile man will become president; but I am sick of far-right-wingers getting any pass just because they opposed the Iraq war - so did the BNP!


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