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Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:20 AM

Pic Of The Moment: How To Talk To A Grieving Mother, By Senator John McCain



Aurora Victim's Mom Calls McCain Town Hall 'Appalling'

Tom Teves: "I Have VOTED Republican My Whole Life ... I'll NEVER Vote Republican Again - EVER!"


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Reply Pic Of The Moment: How To Talk To A Grieving Mother, By Senator John McCain (Original post)
EarlG Feb 2013 OP
Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #1
steve2470 Feb 2013 #2
deutsey Feb 2013 #3
AgingAmerican Feb 2013 #24
rurallib Feb 2013 #4
Stuart G Feb 2013 #9
rurallib Feb 2013 #19
crim son Feb 2013 #27
onehandle Feb 2013 #5
Roy Rolling Feb 2013 #6
Kalidurga Feb 2013 #7
BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #14
Jamaal510 Feb 2013 #8
Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2013 #10
BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #15
Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2013 #23
kairos12 Feb 2013 #20
BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #25
Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #52
freshwest Feb 2013 #11
aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2013 #12
booley Feb 2013 #32
Smilo Feb 2013 #13
BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #16
santamargarita Feb 2013 #17
felix_numinous Feb 2013 #18
tavalon Feb 2013 #39
felix_numinous Feb 2013 #42
xtraxritical Feb 2013 #21
timdog44 Feb 2013 #28
Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #49
Walk away Feb 2013 #51
MADem Feb 2013 #22
tavalon Feb 2013 #38
Caeser67 Feb 2013 #26
Bill USA Feb 2013 #29
Cha Feb 2013 #30
Joey Liberal Feb 2013 #31
Logic Dictates Feb 2013 #33
tavalon Feb 2013 #37
47of74 Feb 2013 #34
calimary Feb 2013 #35
tavalon Feb 2013 #36
Loryn Feb 2013 #40
Hayabusa Feb 2013 #41
Uncle Joe Feb 2013 #43
WillyT Feb 2013 #44
AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #45
ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #46
RT_Fanatic Feb 2013 #47
Initech Feb 2013 #48
spicegal Feb 2013 #50
nyquil_man Feb 2013 #53
Bolo Boffin Feb 2013 #54
Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2013 #55
deke4 Feb 2013 #56
bluesbassman Feb 2013 #57

Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:23 AM

1. Senator Jerk just does not get it .................

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:33 AM

2. his opponent should play that over and over in campaign commercials

McCain and "a heart" should not be used in same sentence.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:37 AM

3. Conservatives see compassion and empathy as weaknesses n/t

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Response to deutsey (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:00 PM

24. The very definition of sociopath

Their whole ideology is sociopathic. Dare I say satanic.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:44 AM

4. sad that that is what it takes to get some folks to

quit voting for those cowboys.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:55 AM

9. This will become the epitaph of the pukes..pass it on...

"Straight talk".. from John Mc Cain...to a grieving mom...

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 01:08 PM

19. considering all the inept, stupid, and downright mean crap

pubs have said in the last 10 years, most is forgotten.
With the help of the corporate M$M (and I include NPR) there mistakes are quietly slipped away while ours are played forever.
I suspect this will be down the old memory hole by this weekend.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:25 PM

27. Right. Until it happens to them, they simply do not get it.

For whatever reason they lack the empathy required to truly give a crap about people who do not directly affect their lives. But my heart goes out to people who have to learn the hard way as their pain must be truly unthinkable.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:46 AM

5. And the bluification of 'merica continues. Strict gun control, like single payer health care...

...is inevitable.

And for some of the same reasons.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:52 AM

6. "straight talk"

Here's some straight talk....giving McCain a free pass because he was a POW in Vietnam has run its course. He is brain-damaged from that experience and has lost his moral compass from supporting neanderthals in his own political party----who trashed him in the 2000 election.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:53 AM

7. And this is the compassionate conservative we have heard so much about...

As shocking as that is, it is mild compared to a lot of what comes out of Republican mouths these days.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:37 PM

14. true. The audience applauded him, too....



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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:53 AM

8. The Republican Party is infested with wimps.

They're more afraid of a small handful of uber-wealthy donors than their own constituents. How pitiful. I'm glad this guy finally saw the light about them.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:01 PM

10. It took a personal tragedy for them to realize that the Republican Party is full of shit?

I don't know what's sadder.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:40 PM

15. really. Maybe what's sadder is the Lord of the Flies audience

who haven't had their eyes forcibly opened, like the Teves did.

Talk about, "none so blind as those who will not see."

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 01:45 PM

23. Yep. It frustrates me to no end.

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 01:29 PM

20. It has been my experience..

that rethug empathy extends as far as their own front step. No further. Until, something bites them personally. Otherwise, its the pull yourself up with bootstraps and you all are a bunch of takers.

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #20)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:15 PM

25. yep. +100 n/t

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:08 PM

52. Like Senator Kirk who had a massive stroke and now realizes therapy is needed...

... and maybe Medicare/medicaide should pay for more than a handful of therapy visits. Unless of course we would rather pay for a lifetime of permanent disability. Duh

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:06 PM

11. The quote by Tom Teves says it all. Thanks, EarlG.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:16 PM

12. What's worse is the applause McCain gets from his conservative audience

when he blows off this grieving mother in public. It reminds me of those incidents during the Republican debates when audiences were cheering electrocution at border feces and letting te uninsured die. Here's the clip and the incident is at the 1:00 mark:

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:54 PM

32. It's pretty wise spread

and the same narcissism to be found in that applause can be found in the comments section.

It's all about "them" and how "They" will be inconvenienced..I mean "demonized"

I don't think they mean to be cruel. They just don't have the empathy to know how vile and self absorbed they sound.

Unfortunately this also makes this debate all the harder since they confuse outrage at surpassing the norms of human decency with persecution.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:30 PM

13. It is things like this that make me cry for this country

what have we become when greed and power corrupt decency and compassion.

Hugs for all on DU who are showing compassion, love, decency and honor every day.

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Response to Smilo (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:51 PM

16. ....

Yeah, that is the challenge....

Hold to our values--which, to put it as plain and simple as possible, could be: To Reduce Suffering.



It's good to be able to vent and rant here--thank gawd!--, but in the real world, we need to make decisions all the time about how best to deal with any given individual or situation.

Sometimes it's best to let them be or end the r-ship (like friends or family, for instance). And sometimes we need to get them fired, or jailed.

And we need to keep our compassion intact; get it refueled too....



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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:56 PM

17. Let the stupid bastard keep running his big hate filled

mouth. We will just keep getting more voters.
He should retire!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:58 PM

18. John McCain needs to retire,

he is past his prime. I am still waiting for all of these grouchy old men to ride their horses off into the sunset, and for this government to swing back from the far right. Please, in my lifetime.

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Response to felix_numinous (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:23 PM

39. He's a pretty big asset to us right now

I think we should encourage him to open his mouth any time the urge to glurge strikes. He's pure gold for the Democrats.

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Response to tavalon (Reply #39)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:38 PM

42. I feel so old

because I can remember and miss actual intelligent debates between Republican and Democratic Parties. My parents were Republicans and they weren't batshit crazy. This country is in sore need of a real debate about real issues between two real parties. *sigh*

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 01:30 PM

21. John McCain has been a loud mouth, loose cannon, fuck-up his whole life.

 

Only his well connected daddy kept him out of jail and pulled strings to get him into the Naval Academy where he graduated very close to the bottom of his class. He wrecked five planes before he was shot down and captured. He parlayed this dismal record into "war hero" status with the conservatard RepubliCON party which is dominant in dim bulb Arizona. My Dad graduated from the Naval Academy during WWII and served in some very dangerous situations in the South Pacific, commanding an LST. He never wanted to discuss it and would not. After he died I procured his service record to find out. Google John McCain to find out the facts, Wikipedia is probably altered by McCain's people.

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:30 PM

28. Well said.

Last edited Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:04 PM - Edit history (1)

It has been as if his record is sacred. He was a loose cannon, was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and was able to turn it into the goose that laid the golden egg. Being a POW was no walk in the park, but there is a difference between hero and POW.

And his loose cannon ways showed up in his response to this poor mother who lost a son in Aurora. And then to have the audience cheer this POS (not POW) response is abominable.

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:48 PM

49. John McCain, the Reverse Ace.

Except for not breaking off on the bombing run over North Vietnam and getting his ass shot out of the sky, all his other crashes were stalls on landing.

The asshole never learned how to land an aircraft.


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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #21)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:25 AM

51. John "The Canary" McCain?

It beats me how a well know moron can get into a plane, drop bombs on a bunch of villagers, get shot down, spill his guts and then call himself a hero for life.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 01:36 PM

22. Why didn't he just say what he was feeling? "Shut the fuck up and toe the party line!"

What an offensive, clueless, tone-deaf idiot.

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Response to MADem (Reply #22)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:21 PM

38. He did, actually

His meaning was quite clear.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:23 PM

26. John McCain Has Already Forgot What He Said

He's always playing "Guess What I Forgot."

This is no different than the disrespect, that he shown Families of those who perished on the U.S.S. Liberty, for years. As long as the so-called media fawns over this bitter, evil, always wrong Man, he will continue to do this. Remember, this is a Man who turned his back on "his Friend" Chuck Hagel because Mr. Hagel said some disparaging things about George Bush, the same George Bush who's Chief Hack (Karl Rove) created a lie about his adopter Daughter, during the SC Primaries, and the same George Bush that he carried water for. He's not mad at them? John McCain WAS an honorable Man, ONLY because he had the GREAT misfortune of being shot down over Vietnam, and as a retired Army Man of 23 years (ret. 2007) with 2 Purple hearts myself, I can respect THAT, but I don't have to respect HIM. And I DON'T. It's ok Teves Family, we grieve with you, we respect you, and John McCain will one day know of what you feel, but the sympathy will not be given to him, at least not by me.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:27 PM

29. may this be posted ALL OVER THE WEB. so those who are still confused better understand GOP hypocrisy


recommended.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:34 PM

30. McCain is so Full of Bullshit.. it was all about him and his "straight talk" that

is a fucking figment of his imagination.

Thanks for calling him out so spectacularly, EarlG!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:37 PM

31. McCain is an old, senile, bully who is bought and paid for by the NRA

Nuff said.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 04:06 PM

33. Keep the old buzzard around until midterms

We should keep people like John McCain around for the 2014 elections. Well he'll be here anyway unless by the grace of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, he should croak.

This way American voters get to see first hand what a disgusting mess of human DNA this creature has turned out to be. Lets put him right up there, on the GOP pedestal with Rush Limbaugh as a shining example of what a human stain he has become.

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Response to Logic Dictates (Reply #33)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:20 PM

37. Drive the Republican voters away, one by one. McCain is great for the Democrats.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:00 PM

34. Fuck you, John McCain

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:10 PM

35. It was UTTERLY appalling!!! I just put this on my Facebook page.

I think we should all hang this around mccain's neck. Forever. You said it, Senator. You built this. And thank you for delivering two more new Democrats to us! And one of them is from the older white male category.

Let's never forget this. And anyone who stands with him - like their little GOP girlie kelly ayotte and certainly lindsey graham! Their next Democratic opponents should use this over and over and over. Immediately following a clip or montage of them standing at the mic or side-by-side somewhere in public with john mccain. He could well become a Typhoid john.

This is reprehensible. VIVID living proof that the GOP loves to sneer. To kick 'em when they're down. To grandstand REGARDLESS of the discourteous or heartless optics it creates. Because the rigid ideology, and indeed the grandstanding itself, is more important to these assholes. mccain should have to pay a price for this. It's just simply disgusting and reprehensible and an OUTRAGE that he would speak so cavalierly and cold-heartedly to such a citizen. Well, hell, to ANY citizen whether they were personally impacted by gun violence or not. But to a grieving mother - I mean, HOW DARE YOU, john mccain? SHAME on you!!!

The following well-known quote applies quite aptly to john mccain now, too: "Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_N._Welch

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:19 PM

36. Keep it up McCain

Few will forgive your comments when it comes to light that you have Alzheimer's and frankly, I don't give a damn. You are an asshat, whether your brain is scrambled or not.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:28 PM

40. I saw that this morning

and, may I just say, what an asshole.

Excuse my language.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:37 PM

41. As I said before, if I was her I'd be in a jail cell by now

because if I were in her shoes and her situation I'd likely charge the asshole the second he said it. That is probably the most offensive things to say to a person who's been affected by a violent act save for "They deserved it."

"Need some straight talk," give me a fracking break...

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:53 PM

43. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, EarlG.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:14 PM

44. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!


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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:39 PM

45. Johnny Boy McBane's at it again!

Oh dear, Johnny boy.....seems like you've just lost two more supporters.....Seriously, how dare he insult a grieving mother like this. Fuck 'im.

(P.S. Thanks EarlG.)

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:40 PM

46. Damn. nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:27 PM

47. Of course, that only serves

to further illuminate what Republicans are: heartless bastards (apologies to that GREAT band by the same name) who have no empathy, no concern for anyone but themselves.

On top of that McCain is plain rude, his conduct unbefitting a U.S. senator. What a PIG.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:46 PM

48. How about this for straight talk: McCain is a jackass.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:55 AM

50. Way to go McCain. Hope that one goes viral

A mother's son is murdered, and his response is she needs some straight talk, AND the crowd cheered. He could have at least had the decency to preface his incredibly cold comment with a sincere condolence regarding her horrible loss. But then, he McCain represents just how mean spirited the GOP really is and how far they've devolved into a bunch of radical spiteful extremists with no solutions to the many problems facing this country.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:45 PM

53. Proof positive that the American people were right to soundly reject him in 2008.

This man is not fit to serve as dog catcher. And never was.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:43 PM

54. There is a wee bit more context to this.

Cenk over on the Young Turks spelled it out. The mother got a lot of support and applause for what she said, too. And then McCain did first sympathize with her situation. Both of those things weren't included in the local news story that so many have seen.

All of those things, however, don't mitigate John McCain's fucking assholery in my mind. Clearly the Teves were there and saw it all.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:12 PM

55. (sigh) My senator. Makes a fellow proud

 

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:30 AM

56. Selective sorrow of some deaths.

John McCain and others who oppose gun ban legislation rightfully expressed their sorrow at the 4 Americans killed at Ben Ghazi which, I believe, no one could do anything about. Remember it was they who shot down the foreign service budget But of the victims of Aurora and Newtown, something that McCain and his ilk could do something about, the cruel answer to a grieving victim's mother was "The assault rifle ban will not pass".

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Response to deke4 (Reply #56)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 02:35 PM

57. It was more like outrage than sorrow at the Ben Ghazi deaths,

but those are excellent points. Would that they show the same level of outrage for the victims at home. Unfortunately that would not pander well to their political base.

Welcome to DU deke4.

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