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Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:04 PM

Catholic Bishops Urge ‘Campaign’ for Religious Freedom

Source: NY Times

The nation’s Roman Catholic bishops issued a proclamation on Thursday calling for every priest, parish and layperson to participate in “great national campaign” to defend religious liberty, which they said is “under attack, both at home and abroad.”

In particular they urged every diocese to hold a “Fortnight for Freedom” during the two weeks leading up to the Fourth of July, for parishioners to study, pray and take public action to fight what they see as the government’s attempts to curtail religious freedom.

“To be Catholic and American should mean not having to choose one over the other,” said the statement, issued by the bishops ad hoc committee on religious freedom.

For more than half a year, the bishops have put the religious liberty issue front and center, but it has not yet galvanized the Catholic laity and has even further polarized the church’s liberal and conservative flanks. In an election year, liberal Catholics have accused the bishops of making the church an arm of the Republican Party in the drive to defeat President Obama — an accusation that the bishops reject.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/13/us/catholic-bishops-urge-campaign-for-religious-freedom.html

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Reply Catholic Bishops Urge ‘Campaign’ for Religious Freedom (Original post)
alp227 Apr 2012 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2012 #1
jwirr Apr 2012 #2
Iliyah Apr 2012 #3
lark Apr 2012 #15
hobbit709 Apr 2012 #4
Dawson Leery Apr 2012 #5
alp227 Apr 2012 #7
denverbill Apr 2012 #6
freshwest Apr 2012 #8
Odin2005 Apr 2012 #9
qb Apr 2012 #10
Orsino Apr 2012 #11
Larkspur Apr 2012 #12
Swede Atlanta Apr 2012 #13
Elliemama Apr 2012 #14
atreides1 Apr 2012 #16
Marrah_G Apr 2012 #17
Liberalynn Apr 2012 #18
ck4829 Apr 2012 #19

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:10 PM

1. And what "freedom" would that be?

The "freedom" to keep people who do not share their faith from exercising their own freedom of religion?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:10 PM

2. For them or for the rest of us?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:17 PM

3. They have all the regilious

freedoms, what they want is to take our freedoms away and make us exactly like them, trolls.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 04:41 PM

15. They want freedom to rape little boys and cover it up and no one says anything.

They want to force every american woman to have to have babies. There's no freedom in their
dogma, it's their way or go to hell - literally and figuratively.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:21 PM

4. they want the freedom to bring back the Inquisition.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:23 PM

5. The RCC wants to force their religion upon our free nation.

The RCC (as well as their "charities") has given millions to the effort to outlaw gay marriage, overturn Roe V. Wade, and indirectly moved to outlaw contraception.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:31 PM

7. ...without any taxes of course.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:29 PM

6. Freedom for the Church to dictate what healthcare it's parishioners receive, they mean.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:33 PM

8. Disappointing. I hoped from the title of the thread, they'd be doing something about child abuse.

This is just more propagandizing from the truly godless GOP, despite their attempt to patent the acronym as God's Only Party.

This is political theater, neither the Catholics nor the Protestants are being suppressed.

If the religious right keeps on this way, it will simply enrage independent thinkers.

And by that I don't mean atheists, either.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:36 PM

9. They must mean the religious freedom to rape children.

Fuck the RCC!

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:48 PM

10. How Orwellian. They express their religious "freedom" through oppression.

Their God is Hate

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 01:53 PM

11. Christian supremacists...

...playing the victim.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:12 PM

12. To the Catholic Bishops: You have religious freedom but you don't have the right to put your

rosaries in my or any woman's ovaries.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 02:44 PM

13. Although I disagree with the premise that their religious freedoms are under attack....

I'm fine with letting them engage in this campaign when they begin to pay property taxes on all their property. I can only imagine what the property taxes on St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York will bring. And of course they must be treated the same, for tax purposes, as any other organization, albeit as a non-profit. Their members and others, however, can no longer deduct their contributions or gifts to the church from their income.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 12, 2012, 03:06 PM

14. End the Catholic Church's Tax Exempt Status

It is time to take away the Catholic Church's tax exempt status!

They are partisan, political hacks, and this is in violation of the tax exempt 501 status.

They are also sexual abusers of boys, and have not been rightfully convicted of these crimes.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 09:03 AM

16. They want to use tax dollars to discriminate

This is their main argument:

"They also assert that the government has violated the religious freedom of Catholics by cutting off contracts to Catholic agencies."

While the First Amendment is clear on the whole freedom of religion concept, nowhere in the US Constitution does it say that any religious group is entitled to contracts by the federal government.

The bishops want special treatment, and feel that they should not have to follow secular law...but that's the same thought they have when it comes to their cadre of pedophiles.

If other religions have to meet legal standards to get federal contracts, then so should the Catholic church.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:24 AM

17. The Church is losing people by taking these stances

Most Catholics do not believe in these things and they do not want the church telling them who they should vote for.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:26 PM

18. Their tax exempt status ought to be yanked

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Thu Apr 19, 2012, 06:29 PM

19. Yeah, except for those nuns, right?

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