Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:32 AM
mahatmakanejeeves (3,613 posts)
Payroll employment rises 120,000 in March; unemployment rate changes little (8.2%)Last edited Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:49 AM USA/ET - Edit history (4)
Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics
THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- MARCH 2012 Nonfarm payroll employment rose by 120,000 in March, and the unemployment rate was little changed at 8.2 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment rose in manufacturing, food services and drinking places, and health care, but was down in retail trade. Household Survey Data The number of unemployed persons (12.7 million) and the unemployment rate (8.2 percent) were both little changed in March. (See table A-1.) Among the major worker groups, the unemployment rates for adult men (7.6 percent), adult women (7.4 percent), teenagers (25.0 percent), whites (7.3 percent), blacks (14.0 percent), and Hispanics (10.3 percent) showed little or no change in March. The jobless rate for Asians was 6.2 percent, not seasonally adjusted. (See tables A-1, A-2,and A-3.) The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks and over) was essentially unchanged at 5.3 million in March. These individuals accounted for 42.5 percent of the unemployed. Since April 2010, the number of long-term unemployed has fallen by 1.4 million. (See table A-12.) Read more: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm Oh, dear. This is 89,000 fewer jobs than ADP had estimated. The stock markets in the US are closed today, so we'll have to wait until Monday for a reaction. A few days ago, ADP weighed in with its estimate: Businesses Adding 209,000 New Jobs Last Month Fail To Ignite Market Rally Last month, there were posts at DU reporting ADP's estimate that 216,000 jobs were added in February. Gruntled Old Man started this one, for example: ADP Estimates U.S. Companies Added 216,000 Jobs in February -- -- -- -- -- Monthly Employment Reports The large print giveth, and the fine print taketh away. A DU'er pointed out several months ago that, if I'm going to post the link to the press release, I should include the link to all the tables that provide additional ways of examining the data. Specifically, I should post a link to “Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization.” Table A-15 includes those who are not considered unemployed, on the grounds that they have become discouraged about the prospects of finding a job and have given up looking. Here are those links. Employment Situation Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization From the February 10, 2011, 'DOL Newsletter': Take Three -- -- -- -- Inevitably each month, I get a few people dissing the BLS, saying that the numbers are just invented or otherwise talking trash about BLS employees. Nonsense. The day after the March 2012 release, the Washington Post ran a story on its front page detailing the timeline of the release of the number. It is well worth reading. Disclaimer: I do not work at BLS. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/jobs-day-an-economic-and-political-obsession/2012/03/09/gIQADZPW1R_story.html ‘Jobs Day’: Monthly release of employment data an economic, political obsession Watching the clock From “AHEAD OF THE TAPE,” on page C1 of The Wall Street Journal. for Friday, March 9, 2012: Divining the Truth From Jobless Figures AHEAD OF THE TAPE
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| mahatmakanejeeves | Apr 2012 | OP | |
| CAPHAVOC | Apr 2012 | #1 | |
| CAPHAVOC | Apr 2012 | #2 | |
| alcibiades_mystery | Apr 2012 | #8 | |
| CAPHAVOC | Apr 2012 | #9 | |
| alcibiades_mystery | Apr 2012 | #12 | |
| HughBeaumont | Apr 2012 | #17 | |
| Purveyor | Apr 2012 | #3 | |
| xchrom | Apr 2012 | #4 | |
| dmallind | Apr 2012 | #5 | |
| Beacool | Apr 2012 | #6 | |
| WI_DEM | Apr 2012 | #7 | |
| groundloop | Apr 2012 | #10 | |
| dennis4868 | Apr 2012 | #11 | |
| andym | Apr 2012 | #13 | |
| denem | Apr 2012 | #14 | |
| alp227 | Apr 2012 | #15 | |
| mahatmakanejeeves | Apr 2012 | #16 |
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:46 AM
CAPHAVOC (1,138 posts)
2. Quote of the day. Santelli.
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Bernake is sweating like a Cubs Manager in September.
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Response to CAPHAVOC (Reply #2)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:32 AM
alcibiades_mystery (28,413 posts)
8. Big fan of Rick Santelli there?
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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #8)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 10:40 AM
CAPHAVOC (1,138 posts)
9. Yes.
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I like to watch Squawk Box. It is on CNBC in the morning. I like all of them. It is a real good show. Santelli always gets in a good one. Today they all looked worried. Even Goolsby.
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Response to CAPHAVOC (Reply #9)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:22 AM
alcibiades_mystery (28,413 posts)
12. Well, it's not surprising
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That the founder of the Zimmerman Fan Club would also lerv the Tea Party Inventor. You should drop the pretense of the "former" in your profile, though.
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Response to CAPHAVOC (Reply #9)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 12:49 PM
HughBeaumont (20,446 posts)
17. CNBC is a Teabagger clubhouse.
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Squawk Box is nothing but Reaganites like Joe Kernen interviewing his pals in the regressive 1%. They have Jack Welch and Steve Forbes as frequent guests. Their only balance is when Rantelli argues with Liesman, who's somewhat moderate.
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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:47 AM
Purveyor (13,204 posts)
3. Disappointing, indeed. Onward April... eom
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:00 AM
xchrom (90,558 posts)
4. ...And The Dollar Gets MAULED
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http://www.businessinsider.com/and-the-dollar-gets-mauled-2012-4
The bad jobs report boosts the likelihood of more QE. Hence the dollar getting mauled against the yen right now. Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/and-the-dollar-gets-mauled-2012-4#ixzz1rGT48OBj ![]() |
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:19 AM
dmallind (10,437 posts)
5. Wonder how the "seasonal adjustments are lies" crowd will react to this one
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Prediction - no permadoomer will complain about adjustments or even refer to the unadjusted numbers.
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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:19 AM
Beacool (19,068 posts)
6. Better than nothing, but not very encouraging.
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Last edited Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:38 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) U.S. Employers Pull Back Sharply On Hiring As Fewer People Search For Jobs
WASHINGTON -- Employers pulled back sharply on hiring last month, a reminder that the U.S. economy may not be growing fast enough to sustain robust job growth. The unemployment rate dipped, but mostly because more Americans stopped looking for work. The Labor Department says the economy added 120,000 jobs in March, down from more than 200,000 in each of the previous three months. The unemployment rate fell to 8.2 percent, the lowest since January 2009. But the rate dropped because fewer people searched for jobs. The official unemployment tally only includes those seeking work. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/06/jobs-report-unemployment-rate_n_1407913.html?1333715633 |
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:24 AM
WI_DEM (32,522 posts)
7. Oh dear! better to be adding jobs than losing them
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the numbers will be higher and they will be lower. Sure, it would be great if it had been over 200,000 jobs again. The recovery is rocky but we've still had many months of job creation as opposed to job losses brought on by the Bush depression.
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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #7)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 10:56 AM
groundloop (2,009 posts)
10. Very true, and of course repubs will be looking for any way to make this look bad
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120,000 added jobs is SIGNIFICANTLY better than during the downturn. We've had jobs growth for many months in a row now, and of course there are going to be some months that are better than others. The constant here is that the repubs will find a way to spin this negatively.
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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #7)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 10:59 AM
dennis4868 (9,626 posts)
11. agree 100%
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but Repubs and the DU Obama hating crowd don't look at it like you and I do.
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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 03:06 PM
andym (2,473 posts)
13. Not good numbers for the country nor the President
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I'm sure that the Romney campaign is happy, as the election will hinge on these numbers and gasoline prices....
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Response to andym (Reply #13)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 03:41 PM
denem (7,196 posts)
14. How about these numbers: U4 (which includes discouraged workers) down 8.9 to 8.7
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U6 (which includes underemployment) down 14.9 to 14.5
Employers are making recent hires permanent. |
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 05:07 PM
alp227 (20,463 posts)
15. How the media framed this story:
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Washington Post: "U.S. hiring slowed sharply in March; unemployment fell to 8.2%"
The Guardian (UK): "US job market recovery stalled in March, halting streak of major gains" The New York Times: "Jobs Report Tempers Hopes of Accelerating U.S. Recovery" It used to be easy to predict the election given how: Santorum is a kook, Boehner/McConnell/Cantor are putting on a grand obstruction show to fulfill McConnell's "one-term president" dream, and Romney isn't satisfying the GOP base. HOWEVER, do any of you find this report concerning? |
Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:46 AM
mahatmakanejeeves (3,613 posts)
16. "... we'll have to wait until Monday for a reaction."
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We're about to find out.
Stocks open lower in first reaction to hiring slump By PALLAVI GOGOI, AP Business Writer – 4 minutes ago |


