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Tue Jul 2, 2013, 04:50 PM

Intelligence Chief Apologizes to Senate for 'Erroneous' Statement on NSA Data Collection

Source: Associated Press / Raw Story

@BreakingNews: RT @breakingpol: Intelligence chief apologizes to Senate for 'erroneous' statement on NSA data collection - @AP

Intelligence chief James Clapper apologizes to Congress for ‘erroneous’ NSA claims

By Dan Roberts, The Guardian
Monday, July 1, 2013 21:31 EDT

The US director of national intelligence, James Clapper, has attempted to head off criticism that he lied to Congress over the extent of government surveillance on American citizens, with a letter to senators in which he apologised for giving “erroneous” information.

Two weeks after telling NBC news that he gave the “least untruthful answer possible” at a hearing in March, Clapper wrote to the Senate intelligence committee to correct his response to a question about whether the National Security Agency “collected data on millions of Americans”.

During the orginal hearing on 12 March, Clapper answered “no, sir,” to a question by Senator Ron Wyden. It emerged later that Wyden had given him 24 hours notice of the question, and after the session ended, offered him an opportunity to correct it, which was declined.

After disclosures by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden detailing the collection of millions of American phone records, pressure grew on Clapper to clarify his remarks. In an interview with Andrea Mitchell of MSNBC, portions of which were first broadcast on 9 June, after Snowden’s leaks first emerged in the Guardian, Clapper explained the apparent inconsistency as a ploy to avoid revealing classified information.


Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/01/intelligence-chief-james-clapper-apologizes-to-congress-for-erroneous-nsa-claims



http://bigstory.ap.org/article/dni-chief-apologizes-erroneous-answer-nsa

DNI CHIEF APOLOGIZES FOR 'ERRONEOUS' ANSWER ON NSA

By KIMBERLY DOZIER
— Jul. 2 4:56 PM EDT

WASHINGTON (AP) — National Intelligence Director James Clapper is apologizing for telling Congress earlier this year that the National Security Agency does not collect data on millions of Americans.

In a letter to Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein, Clapper says his answer was "clearly erroneous."

Leaks by NSA systems analyst Edward Snowden have revealed the NSA's sweeping data collection of U.S. phone records and some Internet traffic every day, though U.S. intelligence officials have said the programs are aimed at targeting foreigners and terrorist suspects overseas.

Clapper was asked in March if the NSA gathered "any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans." He answered that it didn't happen wittingly.

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Reply Intelligence Chief Apologizes to Senate for 'Erroneous' Statement on NSA Data Collection (Original post)
Hissyspit Jul 2013 OP
Kelvin Mace Jul 2013 #1
reflection Jul 2013 #14
lark Jul 2013 #26
Kelvin Mace Jul 2013 #41
24601 Jul 2013 #15
Kelvin Mace Jul 2013 #40
24601 Jul 2013 #50
alsame Jul 2013 #2
PSPS Jul 2013 #3
truedelphi Jul 2013 #5
deurbano Jul 2013 #7
RufusTFirefly Jul 2013 #12
JDPriestly Jul 2013 #9
rhett o rick Jul 2013 #24
RufusTFirefly Jul 2013 #4
SHRED Jul 2013 #6
Festivito Jul 2013 #8
n2doc Jul 2013 #10
dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #11
rhett o rick Jul 2013 #13
byeya Jul 2013 #16
RufusTFirefly Jul 2013 #17
Octafish Jul 2013 #20
rhett o rick Jul 2013 #21
byeya Jul 2013 #42
rhett o rick Jul 2013 #43
formercia Jul 2013 #18
Octafish Jul 2013 #19
rhett o rick Jul 2013 #22
Octafish Jul 2013 #27
Psephos Jul 2013 #53
Joey Liberal Jul 2013 #23
rhett o rick Jul 2013 #25
nashville_brook Jul 2013 #30
rhett o rick Jul 2013 #37
byeya Jul 2013 #44
Lonr Jul 2013 #28
Catherina Jul 2013 #29
NoodleyAppendage Jul 2013 #31
rhett o rick Jul 2013 #32
Coyotl Jul 2013 #34
Ash_F Jul 2013 #33
cantbeserious Jul 2013 #35
totodeinhere Jul 2013 #36
askeptic Jul 2013 #38
Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #39
nolabels Jul 2013 #45
MsPithy Jul 2013 #46
truth2power Jul 2013 #47
nolabels Jul 2013 #51
Android3.14 Jul 2013 #48
Ian_rd Jul 2013 #49
blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #52

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 04:52 PM

1. You lied, you prick!

Erroneous statements my ass.

Was he under oath? If so, isn't that perjury?

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:26 PM

14. Yeah he did.

That he still has a job today is mind-boggling.

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Response to reflection (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:47 PM

26. If Obama had a problem with him, he wouldn't be there.

That Obama supports him tells us what we need to know.

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Response to lark (Reply #26)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:47 AM

41. *sigh*

So true....

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:33 PM

15. I used to think perjury was significant and should, in addition to being a crime, result in

loss of a federal position.

But that was before 1998. Then the Senate adopted a different standard. If you are not going to hold the highest official in government accountable, it makes no sense to go after those in lower positions.

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Response to 24601 (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:46 AM

40. Laws are for peons like you and me

Shit like this makes it harder and harder to get up in the morning.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #40)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:56 PM

50. Agree that I would be held accountable. But after I win powerball, watch out. Of course my long-

term retirement strategy may have a flaw....

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 04:52 PM

2. Here's a link

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/01/intelligence-chief-james-clapper-apologizes-to-congress-for-erroneous-nsa-claims/

The US director of national intelligence, James Clapper, has attempted to head off criticism that he lied to Congress over the extent of government surveillance on American citizens, with a letter to senators in which he apologised for giving “erroneous” information.

Two weeks after telling NBC news that he gave the “least untruthful answer possible” at a hearing in March, Clapper wrote to the Senate intelligence committee to correct his response to a question about whether the National Security Agency “collected data on millions of Americans”.

During the orginal hearing on 12 March, Clapper answered “no, sir,” to a question by Senator Ron Wyden. It emerged later that Wyden had given him 24 hours notice of the question, and after the session ended, offered him an opportunity to correct it, which was declined.

After disclosures by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden detailing the collection of millions of American phone records, pressure grew on Clapper to clarify his remarks. In an interview with Andrea Mitchell of MSNBC, portions of which were first broadcast on 9 June, after Snowden’s leaks first emerged in the Guardian, Clapper explained the apparent inconsistency as a ploy to avoid revealing classified information.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 04:58 PM

3. Unless his sorry ass is kicked out the door, this is meaningless.

They (he and the rest of this heinously corrupt government) will just say or do anything to survive this outrage, hoping something, such as this nonsense, "sticks."

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Response to PSPS (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:03 PM

5. If scribbling with chalk is indictable crime - then

Why are these A-holes who lie to congress getting a free pass? In the old days, when the Senate and The House members were not so beholden to their Corporate Masters, these people would be impeached. (Clapper, Geithner, Bernanke, etc.)

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Response to PSPS (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:07 PM

7. He lied to Congress, right? Shouldn't there be the possibility of prison time, too?

Seems that's just for those who expose the lies and reveal the truth...

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Response to deurbano (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:14 PM

12. Not when he -- literally -- has their number.

Anyone who attempts to bring him to justice will be vilified a la Snowden.

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Response to PSPS (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:08 PM

9. It is perjury.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:41 PM

24. No, no it's just a misunderstanding. He didnt understand "is data collected" to mean "is data

collected". He thought Sen Wyden meant "do you personally listen to every phone call." Easy to see where the misunderstanding could happen. Of course Sen Wyden gave him the question prior to the hearing and then asked if he wanted to change his answer after the hearing. Clapper found Ms. Corp-Media-Mitchell more receptive than nasty ole Wyden.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:00 PM

4. That darn pole-dancer lovin' traitor forced the NSA to tell the truth to Congress!! n/t

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:04 PM

6. And when nothing comes of this...

...the corruption of the system will be reinforced.

Lying us into war.
Wall St criminals laughing all the way to the bank...etc...etc...

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:08 PM

8. Sorry I tried to squash democracy, oh, and, down with democracy.

I would not tell you before and I will not tell you now.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:10 PM

10. I guess he isn't Barry Bonds

So lying to congress is gonna be just fine for him.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:13 PM

11. Sounds like Clapper should be reassigned to the crapper.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:23 PM

13. We must give credit where credit is due and say that Andrea Mitchell did her part

in allowing Clapper to try to weasel his way out of the fire. She only asked the questions she was told to ask. Clapper inplied that there was a library of data (he didnt say who collected the data) that the NSA could gain access to. Ms. Mitchell didnt ask who collects the data and what kind of data and who has access other than the NSA. Clapper said he misunderstood the work "collected" from Sen Wyden, he thought he meant, "read". Ms. Mitchell just smiled thinking (let's go for martini's after, you buy).

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:39 PM

16. That Mrs Greenspan is another Tom Paine. Feel the pride.

 

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:01 PM

20. Andrea is COMCASTIC!

Her bosses also just happen to be one of the biggest domestic spy profiteers around. What a coincidence.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #20)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:32 PM

21. I like the COMCASTIC. nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #21)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:54 AM

42. "Comcastic" = + + +

 

Was it good for you too?
It was Comcastic!!

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Response to Octafish (Reply #20)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:55 AM

43. How about COMGASMIC ? nm

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:57 PM

18. "No, Sir"

"We don't Spy on US Citizens, our Contractors do."

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 05:59 PM

19. All is forgiven because Clapper's got the Senate call girl records on his iPhone.

Bet a guy could get five stars, if he wanted.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:34 PM

22. Looks like "meta-data" got the best of Gov Spitzer. I wonder how many are "playing ball". nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #22)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:55 PM

27. I was hoping the DC Madam would have her day in an open court.

But no. No need for all that at her trial.

So, after Deborah Jeane Palfrey was convicted and quickly died by a what must surely be suicide, somehow all her records that named a sitting US senator and other government officials disappeared from public review before all the numbers could be run down.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #27)

Thu Jul 4, 2013, 12:06 AM

53. Disgusting, isn't it? n/t

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:38 PM

23. Clapper should resign

As should the heads of the NSA and CIA.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:42 PM

25. Is it me or are the deniers getting quieter? nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:07 PM

30. +1

noticed that too.

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Response to nashville_brook (Reply #30)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 08:36 PM

37. I was wrong. The are concentrated in the hatred of Snowden and Greenwald posts. nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #37)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:56 AM

44. Snowden and Greenwald sure bring out the sickos

 

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:55 PM

28. The words "I'm sorry" just don't cut it

 

when you lie to congress and the American people about illegal activity perpetrated by the NSA

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 06:59 PM

29. Fuck it no. Apology not accepted. Everyone involved needs to be prosecuted n/t

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:18 PM

31. Umm...isn't lying to Congress a FELONY?

I guess once you become the overlord of the fascist intelligence state you can get away with lying to Congress with a simple (yet strained) apology. Too bad for the rest of us mere morals that we would not be afforded the same consideration.

J

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Response to NoodleyAppendage (Reply #31)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:21 PM

32. Sadly the Republicans think so if it is a Democrat lying, but the Democrats, as a whole

will probably let it slide.

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Response to NoodleyAppendage (Reply #31)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:35 PM

34. Yes, and that is why he is correcting the record regarding the clearly erroneous statement

So, if Wyden wants to pursue this, all he needs now is for the Senate to concur, right?

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:26 PM

33. What a weasel. /nt

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:36 PM

35. Well, Well - The NSA Had To Fess Up - Seems Snowden Was Right All Along

eom

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 07:47 PM

36. So he is going to get away with his lies by just saying he's sorry?

Why hasn't President Obama fired him?

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #36)

Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:54 PM

38. Lying is a way of life in the US - Lying OK for bigwigs - whole war based on lies

We have policies and laws based on lies, (Drug war, anti-abortion, banking laws, foreign aid, torture, indefinite detention, etc. etc. etc.), and it has been the history of our nation.

The thing that'll really get you in trouble is telling the truth!

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 12:50 AM

39. He's super sorry with a cherry on top. nt

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 11:52 AM

45. I never believe or accept an apology from a liar

Mostly because it's just another lie in that effort to gain space to be able to tell another. It's cognitive dissonance to think that liars will just all of sudden come to their senses and somehow can now stop trying to deceive others. It's sort of like addiction to a substance, the brain will rely on it for it's crutch because the brain often gets lazy and is a easy shortcut to get from point A to B.

Really if you do accept it you are just another enabler perpetuating the behavior.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 12:07 PM

46. Why does the rule of law apply to Snowden and not Clapper?

Lying to congress is against the law, even if one is not under oath.

How can anyone be confident in the oversight of these spying programs if the overseers are being lied to?

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 12:51 PM

47. Snowden lied. Clapper made an error. Have I got that straight?...

Being part of the power-elite does have its privileges, don'cha know.

Pardon me while my head explodes.

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Response to truth2power (Reply #47)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 02:15 PM

51. Clapper kisses emperors ring, Snowden say's he is not ashamed

Who do you think you could trust more?

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:04 PM

48. And our leaders are outraged, and they slapped down contempt of congress citations, and then they...

Actually, when faced with the bald-faced irrefutable evidence that the industrial military complex is smearing shit in their faces, our leaders did nothing. Congress is nothing but fuckin' dipshit coward lickspittle, broken sword, weak-ass nothings.
They are tools.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 01:11 PM

49. Dear Senators, I'm sorry that I got caught ... I mean lied ... DAMNIT! I mean misspoke!

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Thu Jul 4, 2013, 12:01 AM

52. LIE

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