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Wed Feb 20, 2013, 08:25 PM

Oregon lawmakers drop attempt to ban the sale of assault weapons and of high-capacity gun clips

Source: The Oregonian

Highly publicized bills that would ban the sale of high-capacity gun magazines as well as semi-automatic miltary-style rifles now appear to be off the table at the Oregon Legislature.

Sen. Ginny Burdick, D-Portland, said Wednesday that she is backing off an attempt to push through a bill on gun clips that she drafted following the December shootings at the Clackamas Mall.

Senate Judiciary Chairman Floyd Prozanski, D-Eugene, who is another key figure in the gun-control debate, said he doesn't plan to take up Burdick's legislation or another bill in the House that would bar the sale of semi-automatic military-style rifles often known as assault weapons.

"I personally think that the high-capacity magazines and semi-automatic weapon issues need to be done at the federal level," said Prozanski.

Read more: http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2013/02/oregon_lawmakers_drop_attempt.html#incart_river_default



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Response to derby378 (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 08:50 PM

1. Sanity prevails.

 

Hopefully, the tide will continue in this direction.

And I applaud both Senators Prozanski and Burdick decision to enact reasonable, and common sense gun control legislation that respects and observes the RKBA and yet leaves room for public safety.


--Ban guns in the Capitol. Under the measure, Prozanski said, those with a concealed handgun license could still bring a gun into the building with the permission of the legislative administrator or law enforcement.

--Expand background checks to also cover private sales and transfers between individuals. There would be an exemption for sales or transfers between immediate family members.

--Ban concealed handgun licensees from carrying guns onto school grounds. However school districts would be able to opt out of the ban under the measure.

--Require live-fire training to obtain a concealed handgun license. Prozanski said most courses for the license already require this training.

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Response to SayWut (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 08:56 PM

2. I can't think of a reason why CHL training SHOULDN'T incorporate live rounds

Once a bullet is fired, you cannot unfire it - but you are still the eyes, the mind, and the will of every bullet you fire.

A sobering thought. And a great idea for Oregon's CHL classes.

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Response to derby378 (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:09 PM

3. Agreed.

 

I might even go so far as to recommend live fire training not only with the firearm the applicant intends to carry, but with other designs (semi-automatic and revolver), and calibers so as to find their 'comfort zone'.

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Response to SayWut (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:21 PM

5. Tick-tock.

As the country blues and populates, gun control will prevail.

Enjoy the future.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:41 PM

7. Your crystal ball is blurry, my friend.

 

No one can predict which way the political pendulum will swing.

Events, and media exploitation and sensationalization of those events only lasts as long as the average Americans attention span and resulting outrage or response.

<----- another Sandy Hook (Tick), or another 9/11 (Tock) --------->

Regardless, Blue... Red... Purple... whatever; "gun control", as you envision it, is a battle you'll have to fight for, and there is an ample number of us to stand in your way. Count on it.

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Response to SayWut (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 08:55 AM

12. How exactly does one "sensationalize" the massacre of 20 children?

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Response to onehandle (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 08:45 AM

10. We have been hearing that old song for 20 years now

I guess when the present is so dismal, fantasies of the future are all you have left.

The population has been "bluing" for several decades - support for gun rights is as high as ever. I question your grasp of American social and political reality.

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Response to SayWut (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 01:00 AM

8. Well, that's monumentally stupid.

"--Expand background checks to also cover private sales and transfers between individuals. There would be an exemption for sales or transfers between immediate family members. "

Really? We're worried about private transfers at gun shows (US DoJ, less than 1% of crime guns) but we EXEMPT THE NUMBER ONE GODDAMN MEANS BY WHICH A GUN IN A LAW ABIDING CITIZENS' HAND TRANSFERS TO A KNOWN FELON? REALLY.

This is REASONABLE, COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL TO YOU?! REALLY?

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/fuo.pdf

0.7% is a big deal to you, but you applaud EXEMPTING THE SOURCE OF 39.6% OF GUNS USED IN CRIMES?


WHAT IN THE BLUE FUCK


Edit: Is it just me, or is everyone determined to fuck with ONLY the gun owners that abide by laws, and intentionally IGNORE THE PEOPLE CAUSING THE PROBLEM?!

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Response to derby378 (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:19 PM

4. The problem is nothing will get done at the federal level

As a progressive state with the Ds in charge we should pass gun control legislation.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 08:46 AM

11. There are a lot of conservative rural voters in Oregon

the political universe in Oregon does not stop at the borders of Portland and Eugene.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:06 AM

13. Yes, given I grew up in Oregon I'm well aware of that

However the population in Eastern Oregon are small. Go look at the SoS's office for returns in those counties, they are out numbered by the more liberal areas. I grew up in Southern Oregon when it was still very bigoted (though parts are still pretty bad). Jackson County went for Obama in 2008 (I wish I could say the same for 2012), Josephine County is a lost cause.

The Ds have the majority on both sides of the legislature and they have a D governor. No excuses.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:12 AM

14. The obvious answer is not all Dems in Oregon share your views on gun control

the politicians are attuned to the desires of their constituents. There obviously was not the wide support for these measures that you think exists.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #14)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:21 AM

15. Well if that's the case, maybe we can send them the funeral bill next time a kid gets a bull in the

head. They are too chickenshit to do anything at the state level. We know nothing will get done at the federal level as the House will hold any bill hostage. I guess the answer is the shootings continue and we sit idly by with our fingers up our noses.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:34 AM

17. You can't expect politicians to commit political suicide

Oregon has one of the lowest gun murder rates in America - a rate that has been steadily falling along with the rest of America for several decades.

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Response to derby378 (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:52 PM

6. Interesting.

My gun nut family were fairly certain it would pass, given they had been seeing polling for Oregon that was 80% in favor of most of the individual parts of the bill.

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Response to derby378 (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 06:43 AM

9. The smart Democrats are looking at their next election

If we want to have a Democratic majority in the legislatures, both state and federal, we have to be smart about gun control. Proposing draconian bills based on emotion will only serve to elect more Republicans.

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Response to PuffedMica (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:24 AM

16. I'd argue doing nothing, but having these proposals out on the table

Will force conservatives out to wipe out our majority. It really only takes losing a seat or two here or there and it's gone. Sitting on the fence picking the wire out of our asses will get us know where. It is the same old story: today nothing was done and tomorrow guess what? Nothing will get done.

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