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Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:04 AM

China angrily denies being behind widespread US hacking

Source: NBC News

BEIJING -- China's military on Wednesday responded angrily to accusations by an American computer security company of systematic hacking of U.S. business and military interests, arguing it "lacked technical proof and was "not based on fact."

In a statement published on the Chinese Defense Ministry's website in response to the controversial report by Mandiant Corp., the military denied the charges, arguing the data was not enough to connect the hacking to them.

"The report, in only relying on linking IP address to reach a conclusion the hacking attacks originated from China, lacks technical proof," the ministry wrote in its statement, "Everyone knows that the use of usurped IP addresses to carry out hacking attacks happens on an almost daily basis."

The ministry also argued that there was no globally accepted definition of what constitutes hacking.

Read more: http://behindthewall.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/20/17029515-not-based-in-fact-china-angrily-denies-being-behind-widespread-us-hacking?lite

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:06 AM

1. Seems legit.

What else would they do?
Shrug their shoulders and sheepishly admit they got caught?

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:07 AM

2. Liars. nt

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:27 AM

3. I tend to be pretty skeptical of any accusation from our government that inolves international

actors (weapons of mass destruction? You get the idea). ...But China... you're gonna lead your defense with a "lack of technical proof" and "there was no globally accepted definition of what constitutes hacking?" That's not terribly convincing to me.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:29 AM

4. Hey NBC, that is not a denial; just a critique of the evidence against them. n/t

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:30 AM

5. Uh- huh

yeah not involved. at all. uh huh

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:41 AM

6. I feel sad because, at one time, I would have been fairly sure of the accusations.

Now..I don't know.
It would not surprise me at all if a defense corporation would be scared that the new budget cuts were going to affect them, and..
"Well shit, we're going to have to set-up some sort of scare vibes to make sure the populace does NOT want to cut defense funds"

Sounds crazy...right? Yep..that's how far down my trust of the inner workings of our country have become.

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Response to BlueJazz (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:09 AM

10. Nope, not at all. At least not in my own paranoid little world. I'm right there with you. Fool me

once, shame on you, fool me twice... we won't get fooled again.

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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 05:03 PM

14. Thanks! At least I'm not the only one who is suspicious of "The Daily Scare"

I don't even voice my concerns to the people I work with 'cause I don't want to hear..
"Oh..that's silly..they wouldn't do that"

Ahhh...yeah...how soon they forget.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:53 AM

7. China's style: "you can't prove it! you did too." n/t

 

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:00 AM

8. "There is no legal evidence " -

"There is no legal evidence behind the report subjectively inducing that the everyday gathering of online (information) is online spying."

Signed, Dave Schmoe, NSA

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:03 AM

9. Chinas had decades of stealing movies, music, technology, who pays them for the trade secrets?

Back before China cut off their people from the internet we had years of interaction in multiplayer gaming. When China took over Formosa those online people were thrown in prison and made to 'work' from computers in prison.

With all the history of steal/copy of any technology/trade secrets/logos they can get their hands on, I wouldn't trust China to not hack for hire for businesses.

Who buys those trade secrets China?

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:13 AM

11. Hi!

I'm Chinese and I'm not hacking your computer! Never mind!

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:24 AM

12. The ministry also argued that there was no globally accepted definition of what constitutes hacking.

When they have to argue semantics as a defense, they are basically saying:

"We may have broken into your computers and stolen data but it's wrong to call that hacking."

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 04:10 PM

13. Of course they never would admit to such a thing.

I don't think anyone expected them to own up to it.

They are know going to try to find ways of doing it without getting caught.

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