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Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:47 PM

Conservative Advocates: Violence Against Women Act Unfair To Men

Source: Talking Points Memo

Claiming that the reauthorization would expand the definition of domestic violence to include “emotional distress,” Heritage declared that the “expansive and vague language will increase fraud and false allegations, for which there is no legal recourse.”

“Under VAWA, men effectively lose their constitutional rights to due process, presumption of innocence, equal treatment under the law, the right to a fair trial and to confront one’s accusers, the right to bear arms, and all custody/visitation rights,” the group wrote. “It is unprecedented, unnecessary and dangerous.”

FreedomWorks also worried that the legislation would be unfair to men.

“The newest version of the VAWA, S.47, contains very vague and broad definitions of domestic violence,” the organization wrote. “A man that raises his voice at his partner, calls her an offensive name, stalks her, causes her any emotional distress, or simply just annoys her can potentially be prosecuted under the VAWA. Calling your spouse a mean name is not advised or polite, but it isn’t the same thing as violence towards her.”


Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/02/vawa-heritage-freedomworks-unfair-men.php?ref=fpa

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Reply Conservative Advocates: Violence Against Women Act Unfair To Men (Original post)
kpete Feb 2013 OP
geek tragedy Feb 2013 #1
kardonb Feb 2013 #2
Jamaal510 Feb 2013 #5
Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #14
SkyDaddy7 Feb 2013 #19
GodlessBiker Feb 2013 #3
SkyDaddy7 Feb 2013 #20
Shrike47 Feb 2013 #4
geek tragedy Feb 2013 #6
SkyDaddy7 Feb 2013 #21
uriel1972 Feb 2013 #7
lark Feb 2013 #8
SoapBox Feb 2013 #9
burnsei sensei Feb 2013 #16
Archae Feb 2013 #10
Myrina Feb 2013 #11
Zoeisright Feb 2013 #12
nobodyspecial Feb 2013 #13
burnsei sensei Feb 2013 #15
redqueen Feb 2013 #17
obama2terms Feb 2013 #18
Ash_F Feb 2013 #22

Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:52 PM

1. Are they unaware that stalking is a criminal offense? nt

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:58 PM

2. unaware

" freedom works " . but in their view , only for men , apparently .

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:06 PM

5. Yes.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:15 PM

14. RW men only know how to stalk as part of their mating ritual...

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:10 AM

19. Seriously, what they are saying is...

if a man can't assert control over his wife via aggressive behavior & scare tactics like stalking then he cannot control her effectively...As the Bible says a man should.

These PIGS disgust me!

I could never ever imagine a day where I would treat my wife that way! I have probably raised my voice twice that I can remember & the guilt I felt afterward was overwhelming. My wife is the same way...If we get crabby & say something we should not it is almost immediately followed by an apology. And even that is very rare!

I guess treating your wife as the equal she is & respecting her as a human being is direct threat to men everywhere??????? WTF!?!?!?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:59 PM

3. These men are complete losers and don't give a fuck about the women/girls in their lives.

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Response to GodlessBiker (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:14 AM

20. They are men of the Bible...

They literally think they have the authority from a sky god that says they can discipline their wives how they see fit.

What amazes me is these idiots think it is OK to complain they would no longer be able to properly stalk their wives & use scare tactics & aggression to get her to do what they say.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:03 PM

4. Those poor, poor men!

It used to be you could keep the little woman in line but nowadays, she just whines a little and the big, bad gummit steps in.

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:08 PM

6. Until the man kills the woman or puts her in the hospital, how can we

possibly know that they're a threat to her?

Save the men!

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:19 AM

21. EXACTLY!!

I am a man & could NEVER EVER treat my wife they way these disgusting "Christian Value" fucks are complaining they will not be able to do if VAW bill passes! WTF??

To them it is ALL about control...Like the Bible says.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:13 PM

7. My lack of god, that is one bad piece of crap...

the freedom to beat up women is soooo important to these people. It makes me sick and I wonder what they do to women behind closed doors.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:16 PM

8. Just goes to show how totally clueless Repugs truly are.

They still don't get that women hating is a losing stance for them. All they ever think about are the old white guys who have all the money and could get in trouble for slapping their mistresses around - just to relieve some stress, of course. We certainly don't want that to happen.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:35 PM

9. Well...WTF?

The War on Women continues.

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:21 PM

16. +1

nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:57 PM

10. I remember a polical cartoon...

A republican asks his staff, (men of course) why they don't appeal to women.

They say:

"I'll check with my better half"
"I know a broad who might know something"
"Dames"

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:58 PM

11. Oh boo hoo, poor misunderstood, maligned and wrongly persecuted MEN!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:03 PM

12. My god, what complete fucking idiots.

Repukes are devolving by the second.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:13 PM

13. They sure do have a way of twisting things.

“Supporters of the VAWA portray women as helpless victims - this is the kind of attitude that is setting women back.”

So giving the women the power in the courts and justice system NOT to be a helpless victim by making sure her attacker is prosecuted makes them a victim.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:20 PM

15. They squeal:

A man that raises his voice at his partner, calls her an offensive name, stalks her, causes her any emotional distress, or simply just annoys her can potentially be prosecuted under the VAWA.


And what was this "injustice" you were referring to?
Prosecuted is not condemned. Now that would be unjust.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 03:11 PM

17. I've seen some comments on DU that seem to agree

that it is unfair to men.

'Men's Rights' sites have been peddling similar anti-VAWA twaddle for a while now.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 03:56 PM

18. WTF??

Stalking has always been a criminal offense but I guess if your as bat shit crazy as the people against this you would find nothing wrong with it.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:21 AM

22. Keep digging deeper pubs

"Heritage Action is scoring VAWA as a “key vote” in determining a lawmaker’s conservative credentials."

This is how they want the conservative brand, America.

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