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Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:40 PM

 

Rebels seize Syria’s largest dam, taking control of water and electricity to parts of

Source: The Washington Post

BEIRUT —Syrian rebels captured the country’s largest dam on Monday after days of intense clashes,giving them control over water and electricity supplies for much of the country in a major blow to President Bashar Assad’s regime.

The rebels had already seized two other dams on the Euphrates River. But the latest conquest, the al-Furat dam in northeastern Raqqa province, was a major coup for the opposition. It handed them control over water and electricity supplies for both government-held areas and large swathes of land the opposition has captured over the past 22 months of fighting.

Rami Abdul-Rahman, a Britain-based anti-regime activist, said rebels took control of al-Furat dam around midday after successfully pushing out a group of Assad loyalist from the control room. Most of the regime troops in the area had stopped fighting on Sunday following the fall of the nearby town of al-Thawra, Abdul-Rahman said.

The rebel assault on the dam was led by al-Qaida-linked militant group Jabhat al-Nusra, which has been fighting alongside the rebels trying to oust Assad. Al-Nusra Front is considered the most effective fighting force on the anti-regime side.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/rebels-seize-syrias-largest-dam-taking-control-of-water-and-electricity-to-parts-of-country/2013/02/11/d0a659e8-7461-11e2-9889-60bfcbb02149_story.html

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Reply Rebels seize Syria’s largest dam, taking control of water and electricity to parts of (Original post)
UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 OP
Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #1
roxy1234 Feb 2013 #7
UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #10
jzodda Feb 2013 #9
freedomization Feb 2013 #2
Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #3
pampango Feb 2013 #4
Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #5
pampango Feb 2013 #6
David__77 Feb 2013 #8

Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:27 PM

1. Score one for the jihadis.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 05:06 PM

7. Good one

 

I wonder how long before they decide to poison the country's water supply and kill as many people as they can?

But hopefully the govt can retake the dam and drive the terrorists out of the country. Foreign players should stay the hell out of Syrian civil war

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Response to roxy1234 (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:50 PM

10. The government is already killing as many people as they can.

 

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:50 PM

9. I have mixed feelings on this

On the one hand I am no fan of the Islamist groups. They could destabilize a future Syria.

On the other hand I put myself in the shoes of a non religious rebel. They receive very little outside aid and are going up against a professional army with heavy weapons. I would welcome anybody who is willing to risk their own life to fight alongside myself.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:46 PM

2. Water and electricity are key


Electricity and water are key to pacification. Without them there is no stability and nothing can take root. Too bad the jihadists took this one: watch them make electricity illegal.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 03:07 PM

3. A British AQ member?

 

Hmmmm.

"a Britain-based anti-regime activist"

You mean, "terrorist", correct?

So we have become friends with AQ again? If so, why are using drones to kill them in other places?

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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 03:54 PM

4. The vast majority of 'anti-regime' activists are not 'terrorists' unless you go with the

'you're either with Assad or you're with the terrorists' line of thinking.

So we have become friends with AQ again? -
Jabhat al-Nusra, which led the fighting at the dam, has been named by the U.S. government as a terrorist organization.

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Response to pampango (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:02 PM

5. LOL. Don't get pissy with me.

 

I only quoted the article.

Which stated that the most effective fighting force is AQ and the person was a British citizen.

So, that would me he is affiliated with a terrorist organization and the US and other allies are helping them.

Very simple logic applies to this.

Assad = Secular Asshole
Rebels = Fundamentalist Assholes

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Response to Arctic Dave (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 04:32 PM

6. By that logic all 'anti-regime activists' are 'affiliated with a terrorist organization' because

'activists' and 'terrorists' both want to see Assad gone.

The US and USSR both wanted to see Hitler gone, too. I suppose the US was "affiliated with a communist organization" because we had a common goal with one. I am glad FDR did not use that as a reason to stop the war with Hitler.

And the US is not helping Jabhat al-Nusra, though Rand Paul would not agree.

Rand Paul Pushes Gun-Running Conspiracy (Libya to Turkey to Syria) Theory During Benghazi Hearing.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) used today’s hearing on the Benghazi attack to confront Secretary of State Hillary Clinton about a conspiracy theory involving moving guns from Libya to Syrian rebels.

Paul, a new member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, wasted no time in making a mark on the proceedings. After informing Secretary Clinton that he would have fired her for her role in the response to the attack, Paul came seemingly out of nowhere to ask Clinton about Turkey. “Is the U.S. involved with any procuring of weapons, transfer of weapons, buying, selling, anyhow transferring weapons to Turkey out of Libya?” he asked.



Paul’s inquiry about Turkey seems less odd if you’re familiar with Glenn Beck-inspired conspiracy theories that have been circulating among right-wing websites since the attacks in Libya. The theory goes that Ambassador Chris Stevens — who was killed during the attack — was deeply involved in the CIA project of gathering loose arms in Libya in the aftermath of Moammar Qaddafi’s downfall. Stevens then facilitated the movement of those arms from Libya to Turkey, where they then went on to Syria. The secrecy involved in moving those weapons under the table is part of why the Obama administration covered up the truth of the attack, according to the theory, which even Fox News has helped spread.

The Obama administration has repeatedly said that it will not be providing arms to the rebels in Syria, which this theory claims to counter. While the CIA was involved with helping round up the loose arms that were rampant in Libya, there is no evidence that Stevens or the State Department was involved in the operation, nor that the arms were then shipped to Syria. That Sen. Paul would use his first hearing on the Foreign Relations Committee to push this theory, despite the fact even if it were true it would fall outside of Secretary Clinton’s purview, does not say great things about his future on the body.

http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/01/23/1485661/rand-paul-conspiracy-theory-libya/

I do agree with your logic.

Assad = Secular Asshole
Rebels = Fundamentalist Assholes


I don't blame Syrians for wanting to get rid of a 'secular asshole'. Most of us would not be content living under one. But they may end up with bigger 'fundamentalist asshole'. For their sake I hope not.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:36 PM

8. There Washington Post goes again: "major blow."

I can hardly see how it's a "major blow" to take over an unguarded control room - somehow I doubt they have the trained technicians to run the thing. Yes, the insurgents could try to stop electricity from flowing to secure areas. We will see if that comes to pass. Nusra are similar to Pol Pot in Cambodia - "purity" is much more important than livelihood and security to them.

I'm thankful that Obama resisted the pressure from Hillary Clinton and other elements to support al-Qaida-aligned terrorism in Syria.

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