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Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:39 PM

GOP offers plan to avoid sequestration by a 10 percent reduction in federal work force

Source: AL.com

Congressional Republicans are firing back at President Obama's plan to once again delay sequestration, offering instead a proposal that would permanently do away with $1 trillion in cuts without raising taxes.

Senate and House members of the Armed Services Committee presented their plan today. It calls for a 10 percent reduction in the federal work force over the next decade, with the cuts coming from attrition. The plan calls for one federal worker to be hired for every three that leave.

Similar to a GOP bill introduced last year, the plan would fend off the $1 trillion in across-the-board cuts over the next decade - half from defense, the rest from other sources - that are set to trigger March 1.

"This is a way of doing this without cutting defense, without cutting domestically and without raising taxes," said Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Inhofe said the president's proposal of "25 percent domestic (cuts), 25 percent defense (cuts) and then the 50 percent tax increases" were a "non-starter."

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Reply GOP offers plan to avoid sequestration by a 10 percent reduction in federal work force (Original post)
Redfairen Feb 2013 OP
Tx4obama Feb 2013 #1
coldbeer Feb 2013 #3
Tx4obama Feb 2013 #4
Plucketeer Feb 2013 #9
savalez Feb 2013 #13
KG Feb 2013 #2
underpants Feb 2013 #5
Andy823 Feb 2013 #6
NorthCarolina Feb 2013 #7
SoapBox Feb 2013 #8
zbdent Feb 2013 #10
adieu Feb 2013 #11
Sunny_Sunshine Feb 2013 #25
adieu Feb 2013 #33
LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #34
Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #12
Monk06 Feb 2013 #14
awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #15
defacto7 Feb 2013 #16
watoos Feb 2013 #17
aquart Feb 2013 #18
wickerwoman Feb 2013 #19
Moostache Feb 2013 #22
Samantha Feb 2013 #20
sakabatou Feb 2013 #21
Rincewind Feb 2013 #23
DallasNE Feb 2013 #24
atreides1 Feb 2013 #29
DallasNE Feb 2013 #32
Drale Feb 2013 #26
mike_c Feb 2013 #27
abelenkpe Feb 2013 #28
brush Feb 2013 #30
okaawhatever Feb 2013 #31
jmowreader Feb 2013 #35

Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:41 PM

1. Republicans are AGAINST JOBS! But we've always knew that. n/t

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:52 PM

3. Yeah, let's do term limits!

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Response to coldbeer (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:53 PM

4. No not term limits. Just vote the damn republicans out-of-office. n/t

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:48 PM

9. To hell with voting!

Just lay the obstructionist bastards off. That way they can really beat their chests and brag about doing as the say.

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:06 PM

13. No fair! The GOP should get credit for creating one very important job.

Barack Obama's second term as President.



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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:44 PM

2. they're determined to crash the economy

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Response to KG (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:56 PM

5. and that would do it

Of course each segment on Fox News (and CNN of course) is either CUT SPENDING....or.... INCREASE THE ECONOMY

everyone knows that you can't do both at the same time

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:14 PM

6. So they want to cut federal jobs

I say we start with "THEIR" jobs first. The republicans don't seem to want to actually do any "real" work to fix the economy, so I say cut their jobs first, fire the whole bunch, especially the house, they don't work enough hours to earn their pay anyway!

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:24 PM

7. They aim to slow any reduction of the unemployment rate,

and there is no easier way to accomplish that than cutting back Government jobs. The very first Government jobs to be cut should be in Congress.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:36 PM

8. ...START with Congress and move on to the Pentagon.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:51 PM

10. Hmm ... probably more people cut, adding to the jobless

than were ever "touched" by the Obama tax "increases" (read: return to pre-Bush era) ...

Watch them turn around and b*tch about the rise in unemployment being Obama's fault ...

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:54 PM

11. Bu through attrition

is a more palatable method of decreasing payroll. I don't think it's good or fair to lay people off to cut head count and payroll. But letting it drop through attrition is the most humane and reasonable way to do so.

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Response to adieu (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 02:49 PM

25. It may sound reasonable

Yeah, this way it is painless for the fools, no one has to say what will be cut. But things will be cut. How long do you wait for your tax refund. How long do you wait for a passport? How many rich guys get away with not paying all the taxes they owe because we don't have enough tax examiners to audit them? Then Congress will yell at the different directors and ask why they are not doing better customer service, why it takes so long. Why the roads and bridges are falling apart. Republicans want small government but they don't want to give up any services. Veterans are already dying before they can get their benefits review for the damage that was done to them while serving our country. If they want to cut something, say it and stand by it, don't hide behind "attrition."

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Response to Sunny_Sunshine (Reply #25)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 04:42 PM

33. I agree with you

I'd rather not see the attrition occur with replacements, and we really ought to do something about the revenue side of things, which Congress has refused to look into.

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Response to adieu (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:26 AM

34. That only works if the jobs aren't needed to be performed.

Most federal jobs are probably bare bones as it is.

Remember this. Whenever anyone says that that federal government is too big fail to take into consideration the population of the USA. When it grows of course there will be more federal employees. The true test to see if it is too big is if the ratio increases.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:56 PM

12. herd of idiots

scientists find organisms with lower IQs than Pet Rocks --- republican politicians?:"

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:13 PM

14. They just can't help themselves. They're stuck in their ideological bubble and can't get out.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:47 PM

15. First, they will reduce...

federal jobs by 10%. Then they will use that club to make the other 90% fear for their jobs. Once they are scared, they will start going after the remaining workers benefits.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:03 PM

16. Asinine. n/t

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:09 PM

17. The cons are bad at math;

70% of our GDP comes from consumer spending. Cutting jobs and wages and benefits will never balance the budget. Sad, but the MSM is controlled by the Corpoatists so we will continue to hear the narrative of cutting spending.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:19 PM

18. Are they being paid by China?

How to wreck the American economy. IDIOTS.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:22 PM

19. Can the whole 10% come out of Defence?

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Response to wickerwoman (Reply #19)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 01:16 AM

22. Amen...we have way too many Air Force Evangelists anyway...might get the cuts all there. (nt)

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:24 AM

20. This does comport with Republicans' long-term goal of whittling the Government down to nothing

Not surprising in the least.

Sam

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:50 AM

21. Death by a thousand cuts.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 01:19 AM

23. How many of

their own staffers are they going to lay off?

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 02:34 AM

24. What A Stupid Idea

What federal agencies will do is to contract out the work at an increased cost, on a larger scale than already is happening today. Perhaps that is the real purpose -- funnel more money into the private sector. One has to wonder. If your only goal is cutting costs then you appropriate less money and let the managers figure out how best to allocate the reduced budget -- cutting people, services, contracting out, whatever.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #24)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 02:56 PM

29. No it isn't

Republicans will have their justification for privatizing all federal jobs, with the exception of defense and intelligence!

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #29)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 04:31 PM

32. What's Your Point?

That slashing head count is how you contain costs rather than setting budgets then letting the managers determine how to manage that reduce budget?

By the way, defense contracting happens today on a large scale. Remember the problems that caused in Iraq with Blackwater?

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 02:52 PM

26. Ok well lets start with Home Land "Security"

and move on to Gito, the staff of the House, the Staff of every General in all the services and how about we cut some House Repukes? O wait I forgot they are not Government employees, they work for Coropations now.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 02:55 PM

27. start with a 10 percent reduction in GOP congress persons...

...and then lets talk.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 02:56 PM

28. GOP offers plan to avoid sequestration by laying of workers in an already down economy

unconcerned with the ripple effects of how this will damage the local economy at large.

Jobs Jobs Jobs, eh?

As in lets cut workers, destroy unions, do away with minimum wage and child labor laws, fight equal pay for equal work, and block any attempt to stimulate the economy or stop offshoring. O those tricky republicans!

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:31 PM

30. More unemployment is their solution? Repugs are unbelievable.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:38 PM

31. The GOP want to make sure it's obama who gets blamed for downsizing the military. That's

what that's about. They accused him of hiring Hagel so the downsizing of the military could be put on a Republican. Dang, we don't need that size of military. C'mon guys this is ridiculous. Also notice they aren't going after any gov't suppliers, you know the companies who make money and support GOP candidates.

I'm thinking Obama needs to call their bluff to get some military cuts or approve it and then wait until 2014 and do what he needs to do if/when we get dems in control.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:41 PM

35. This is a way for the GOP to not actually have to do anything to fix the problem

The GOP knows exactly how they want the economy fixed. But they won't tell anyone what it is, and they won't accept anything else.

The truth is the economy cannot be fixed the way the GOP wants it fixed. Ten percent reduction in the federal workforce, whether by attrition (just not hiring a new worker to replace one the Republicans finally pissed off severely enough to see him or her walk out the door) or firing, isn't nearly enough. Spending cuts aren't nearly enough. It will take budget cuts AND tax increases. They know it. They don't want that.

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