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Sat Feb 2, 2013, 04:34 PM

Update: Gov. Perry: Boy Scouts should keep no-gay policy

Source: AP

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) Gov. Rick Perry said emphatically Saturday that the Boy Scouts of America shouldn't soften its strict no-gays membership policy, and suggested that bending the organization to the whims of popular culture is wrong.

Perry is an Eagle Scout and in 2008 he authored the book "On My Honor: Why the American Values of the Boy Scouts Are Worth Fighting For." It detailed the governor's deep love for the organization and explained why it should continue to embrace traditional, conservative values including excluding openly gay members and scout leaders.

America's longest-serving governor addressed the Texas Scouts' 64th annual Report to State, where hundreds of Scouts from around Texas filled the state House of Representatives to announce their delegation's recent accomplishments.

Perry has addressed the gathering several times before, most recently in 2010, but not since the announcement the Scouts national leadership is mulling scraping the mandatory exclusion of gay members. Instead, the group could allow different religious and civic groups that sponsor Scout units to decide for themselves how to address the issue either maintaining the exclusion or opening up their membership.

Read more: http://www.reporternews.com/news/2013/feb/02/gov-perry-boy-scouts-should-keep-no-gay-policy/



Cross-posted in Texas group at http://www.democraticunderground.com/10785844 .

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Reply Update: Gov. Perry: Boy Scouts should keep no-gay policy (Original post)
TexasTowelie Feb 2013 OP
Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #1
hobbit709 Feb 2013 #2
TexasTowelie Feb 2013 #3
freshwest Feb 2013 #4
HockeyMom Feb 2013 #5
AlbertCat Feb 2013 #10
CreekDog Feb 2013 #21
davidpdx Feb 2013 #27
maverickfox Feb 2013 #6
TexasTowelie Feb 2013 #8
yardwork Feb 2013 #11
onehandle Feb 2013 #7
triplepoint Feb 2013 #9
TexasTowelie Feb 2013 #12
Iggo Feb 2013 #15
TexasTowelie Feb 2013 #16
Iggo Feb 2013 #20
TexasTowelie Feb 2013 #22
christx30 Feb 2013 #30
supernova Feb 2013 #13
Lordquinton Feb 2013 #14
PatrynXX Feb 2013 #17
humblebum Feb 2013 #31
another_liberal Feb 2013 #18
Lobo27 Feb 2013 #19
RKP5637 Feb 2013 #23
TexasTowelie Feb 2013 #24
RKP5637 Feb 2013 #25
SoapBox Feb 2013 #26
TexasTowelie Feb 2013 #28
Socal31 Feb 2013 #29

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 04:38 PM

1. Gov Whoops should keep his mouth shut...

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 04:43 PM

2. Unfortunately he's like a Chatty Cathy doll with the string permanently pulled.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 04:43 PM

3. Get this:

Society's failure to adhere to the organization's core values was a cause for high rates of teen pregnancy and wayward youth who grow up to be "men joining their fathers in prison."

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 05:05 PM

4. Well, we can't say the ol' boy lacks vision. What a sordid imagination he has...

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 05:15 PM

5. As a woman, I call out you male bigots

The GIRL Scouts do not discriminate. The majority of females do not have a problem with this. Why do MALES? Is it that they fear their OWN tendencies?

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 05:32 PM

10. Why do MALES?

When I was growing up, being gay was the worse thing a man could be. You could murder your mother and be more accepted. Why this is is an interesting question. It must have something to do with "feminine = weak" ....or some such notion. Of course there are super-butch gays and women are obviously not weak.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 10:02 PM

21. i take no responsibility for the bigotry of the Boy Scout rules

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #21)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:13 AM

27. +1

Not every male supports the Boy Scout's policy. I'm sure there has been a poll done at some point in time that would say what percentage do. My guess is it would be much less than 50%.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 05:19 PM

6. God what a dumbass

It's as if he's studied every single criticism of GW Bush, both rumor and factual, and said to himself, "I wonder how I can top that?"

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Response to maverickfox (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 05:27 PM

8. Agreed!

Welcome to DU!

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Response to maverickfox (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 05:56 PM

11. That's funny! Welcome to DU!

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 05:26 PM

7. Teh gay are such troublemakers. nt

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Response to triplepoint (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 06:11 PM

12. Now, now...

somebody might alert on that picture these days, but also with a laugh.

I realize that there were alerts on gay-bashing recently, but hopefully we can keep a sense of humor over a familiar picture from the last election and note that the jabs are being made on Rick Perry (although there are billions of other ways to criticize him). I also intentionally avoided posting that picture or mentioning the other tidbits in Perry's history to be sensitive to the LGBTQ audience.

Please be nice to each other and realize that we are a community sharing information and hopefully having some fun on a Saturday afternoon.

On edit: I see that the post was hidden and accept the decision by the jury. Please keep it civil.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 07:35 PM

15. I'm not sure you get it.

You need to realize that using accusations of gayness to belittle someone is wrong no matter who you're talking about. Not because it's rude or mean. It's because there's nothing wrong with being gay.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 08:04 PM

16. I definitely do get it.

I was on a jury recently that had some gay-bashing overtones in a thread and voted to hide the post because I considered it to be insulting and demeaning. I'm dealing with depression myself, so if anything I am probably over-sensitive to any triggers that might provoke someone to do something detrimental.

The photo is what it is--a man eating a corn-dog and it was run in mainstream media so it wasn't considered overly provocative. Unfortunately many added the sexual innuendo to the photo, even here on DU.

I will also emphatically agree with you that there is nothing wrong with being gay.

BTW, why have you assumed that I'm straight?

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 10:00 PM

20. My mistake.

I sometimes have a hair-trigger when it comes to that kind of stuff.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 10:44 PM

22. No harm done.

Obviously this thread is on a sensitive topic. While I do not know the person that posted the photo, I suspect that he was being silly/humorous and it was a 4-2 decision to hide. As I stated above, I anticipated some backlash over the photo and was trying to mitigate the damage but the jury did their job before I posted my response.

Peace!

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 09:44 AM

30. There was a meme

on the net a year or so ago that decided to use 'gay' as a way of declaring something awesome instead of lame.
I'd like to try to bring that back.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 06:18 PM

13. Interesting conservative values this organization has...

Are traditional conservative values those that include covering up decades of child molestation? You can't be an openly gay male in the BSA, but we will have your back when you decide to molest a kid.

Perry and Co. are such a pack of fools when they speak out for an organization that has such a sordid past and claim "traditional conservative values".

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 06:29 PM

14. I agree the American values of the boy scouts are worth fighting for

the non-american values are worth ditching, all the discrimination the christian bent, etc.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 08:08 PM

17. Irony??

when my brother intended to wear his scouts uniform to church... he did som under heavy controversy. The pastor considers it some sort of cult. Not that I ever did. It's still a religious organization. and I don't entirely like this thing being forced on the Boy Scounts. Because of the separation of church and state

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 09:12 PM

18. Oh, that's rich!

So the Governor of Texas believes allowing gays to take part is just, ". . . bending the organization to the whims of popular culture." That's what it is, right Governor, not an effort at inclusiveness and equal treatment for all?

Think about this, Governor: Homophobia is not actually the fear of homosexuals. It's more accurately the fear of being homosexual. You should really think about that.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 09:57 PM

19. Hey may be my Governor,

but FUCK YOU RICK PERRY.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 11:18 PM

23. "Perry is an Eagle Scout." Well, that certainly lowers the rank of Eagle Scout. n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #23)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 11:20 PM

24. No, Rick Perry is very rank!

The statements he made today only serve to confirm that observation.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #24)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 11:26 PM

25. Yep, he even stinks way up here!

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:47 AM

26. "Gov. Rick Perry said emphatically Saturday..."

First, sorry to all the straight male DUer's out there that are forward thinking.

BUT, ya just gotta love it when a straight guy, lectures as a know-all, about gays.

Hey Gov. ASSHOLE, you don't know shit about being gay or the gay community!

PERIOD!!!

...asshole.

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #26)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:38 AM

28. Hold off on that thought.

There were some allegations about nine years ago that were never proven.

However, whether he is Governor Asshole or Hypocritical Govenor Asshole is known only to authorities higher than me.

Note: The last clause of the prior sentence should be taken to have multiple meanings.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:20 AM

29. Just like Immadinnerjacket announcing Iran has no gays......

And the US military had no gays until Obama repealed DADT...

Perry is obviously trying to keep gay people out of boy-scouts. I mean, why ruin such a purely-straight organization such as the Boy scouts, who somehow circumvent science and statistics and only enroll 100% straight boys/men?

I, for one, support Perry. I mean, if it worked for the Catholic Church, it can work for the boy scouts. Right?



(I have no idea how to do the sarcasm tag but please, don't take this post seriously)

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