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Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:53 AM

Kerry Says Obama Offered Him State Dept. Job A Week Before Rice Withdrew

Source: TPM



TOM KLUDT 9:30 AM EST, FRIDAY FEBRUARY 1, 2013

In an interview with the Boston Globe published Friday, newly confirmed Secretary of State John Kerry said that President Barack Obama offered him the post a week before United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice withdrew her name from consideration — contradicting the widely held assumption that the longtime Massachusetts senator and one-time Democratic presidential nominee was the administration's second choice for the job.

“He called me, actually a week before Susan got out of the thing,” Kerry said. “He called me and said, ‘You’re my choice. I want you to do this.’ He asked me to keep it quiet. I did. I sat on it.”

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Read more: http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/kerry-says-obama-offered-him-state-dept-job



Link to Boston Globe interview:
http://bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2013/02/01/john-kerry-now-known-secretary-reflects-his-political-journey/Q73YnFOiYAW4qrBl9cAIyO/story.html

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Reply Kerry Says Obama Offered Him State Dept. Job A Week Before Rice Withdrew (Original post)
DonViejo Feb 2013 OP
eggplant Feb 2013 #1
bigbrother05 Feb 2013 #3
politicasista Feb 2013 #31
blm Feb 2013 #4
ProSense Feb 2013 #7
leveymg Feb 2013 #11
ProSense Feb 2013 #12
leveymg Feb 2013 #15
Beacool Feb 2013 #17
leveymg Feb 2013 #20
Beacool Feb 2013 #21
leveymg Feb 2013 #24
madokie Feb 2013 #2
Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #13
EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #23
Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #32
forestpath Feb 2013 #25
politicasista Feb 2013 #29
Purveyor Feb 2013 #5
TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #6
DonViejo Feb 2013 #8
TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #9
DonViejo Feb 2013 #10
politicasista Feb 2013 #30
oldandhappy Feb 2013 #14
blm Feb 2013 #18
oldandhappy Feb 2013 #19
Beacool Feb 2013 #16
eggplant Feb 2013 #22
Kanmi Feb 2013 #26
politicasista Feb 2013 #27
Jennicut Feb 2013 #28

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:56 AM

1. Why would he reveal this? n/t

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Response to eggplant (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:59 AM

3. Would you want to be "selected" by McCain?

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Response to bigbrother05 (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:13 PM

31. +1 n/t

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Response to eggplant (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:00 AM

4. Why not? Many of us knew Rice was never the first choice, but, corpmedia rode the rumor mill.

Why would it be OK to you to have it believed that Rice was tapped and then was 'thwarted' by Republicans when Obama has always wanted Kerry there?

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Response to blm (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:19 AM

7. People seem to forget two things:

Kerry is highly qualified for the job and Rice is still a member of the Cabinet.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:48 AM

11. You seem to overlook that Kerry had the lead role in diplomatic talks with Assad before the uprising

while Rice took a much more aggressive role in pushing regime change in Libya and Syria.

Kerry's appointment shows two things: 1) desire to counterweight the regime change advocates; and 2) Obama thought that Kerry would have an easier time getting through Senate confirmation after the Benghazi debacle than Rice who put herself into the center of the contentious issue over mixed-messaging by the Administration about what actually happened in September.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:52 AM

12. Actually,

"You seem to overlook that Kerry had the lead role in diplomatic talks with Assad before the uprising while Rice took a much more aggressive role in pushing regime change in Libya and Syria."

...no I didn't. My point is that Kerry, and I believe he was the President's first choice, is highly qualified. The point about Rice is that people appear to believe that she is no longer in the administration.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:28 AM

15. She was the point of the spear, now she's been pushed back from the tip as

the Administration's chief spokesperson on MENA issues. Hillary let her take the lead after Benghazi, and one could say Rice fell on the sword for the policy she embraced, if indeed she wasn't actually shafted.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:35 AM

17. Not Hillary, the WH.

The WH sent Rice to speak on all those morning shows, it wasn't Hillary. They were also the ones who gave her the talking points (based on what the intelligence community had given them).

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Response to Beacool (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:48 AM

20. It was after Hillary issued the DOS "gag order" that Rice came forward as the sole Admin.

source talking on the record. Too bad that what she said on the record about no "coordinated attack" proved to be so inaccurate.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #20)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:06 PM

21. My point is that Hillary is not the one who left Rice swinging in the wind.

The talk shows wanted Hillary and she said no. Someone in the WH decided to send Rice and gave her the talking points. I don't think that anyone was purposely trying to deceive the media, but the info. in the talking points was erroneous. I feel for Rice, but I still think that even if Benghazi hadn't occurred, Obama would have chosen Kerry.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:21 PM

24. Rice stepped into the Lion's Den because Hillary bowed out.

No doubt, Rice volunteered enthusiastically and stepped into the role of spokesperson herself. What she did was rather noble and selfless, and I've acknowledged that before.

I also doubt there was a real intent on her part to actually deceive, but I remember her statements being endorsed by those here who were saying that there was no real evidence of a planned attack by al-Qaeda linked militias, and that everything in post regime change Libya was going swimmingly except for that little unplanned riot that night. Rice, no doubt, was aware of the positive spin she was putting on things.

I'm not sure that until Benghazi "blew back" politically that Kerry was really Obama's first choice. I do detect a shift in regional policy, and I suppose that is a good thing.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:58 AM

2. If John Kerry says it I believe it

In my opinion between Senator Kerry and former Senator Hagel joining the administration we're heading in the right direction. And its about fucking time

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Response to madokie (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:59 AM

13. Any time we appoint a conservative

we lose.

Hagel is a batshit crazy con, he just isn't an uber-batshit crazy con, so he seems "reasonable" by comparison.

He is:

Anti-gay
Anti-woman
Anti-abortion
Pro-war

Any one of these positions should disqualify him from holding a cabinet level job under a "liberal" administration, which just demonstrates that the Obama admin is center-right if one is being generous, and hard-right if one is being honest.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:57 PM

23. Maddow already busted these attacks wide open. Nice try, though.

 

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Response to EastKYLiberal (Reply #23)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:59 PM

32. I'm sorry

are you accusing me of being a "fake liberal"?

What part of Hagel being anti-gay, anti-woman, anti-abortion and pro-war is not factual?

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:31 PM

25. +1

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:09 AM

5. I thought Susan Rice would have been a poor choice all along. Glad to hear the Presidents thinking

on this one.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:10 AM

6. I'm not sure what is to be gained from revealing this. The matter

was resolved. But, interesting to know.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:30 AM

8. When I first saw the article...

I thought, WTH? After reading the article and thinking about it, I wondered if this wasn't some sort of grand strategy on the part of the President or, John Kerry has a big mouth (and I know that's not true). If it was some sort of strategy, I'm thinking the Prez just wanted to make the Two Amigos + NH's Sen Ayotte look like what they are, raving idiots.

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Response to DonViejo (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:33 AM

9. It's not a big deal, just not something I would have done.

Maybe Kerry was allowed to reveal that so that he didn't look "second-choice" for all of history, in which case it's understandable.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:35 AM

10. Agreed. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:23 AM

14. not very diplomatic!

Reeeally, John. Not necessary information. Show us your diplomatic side. I agree with your choice. And I hope you grow into the job!

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Response to oldandhappy (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:41 AM

18. You're wrong - the corpmedia and too many duped Dems MADE it necessary.

Why should Kerry have to deal with every news report of his work the next 4 years by being referred to by a rumor-driven press as the second choice tapped behind Rice?

Why should so many DUPED Democrats feel resentment that Obama's first choice as pushed by the corpmedia was passed over when the rumor was NEVER true?

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Response to blm (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:43 AM

19. yea, ok. good point.

I always forget how no one lets anything go these days.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:32 AM

16. I assumed that Kerry was his choice.

First, because Kerry has been in the Foreign Relations Committee for decades and knows most of the world players. Second, because Obama owed him for all the years that Kerry supported him politically, starting in 2004.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:51 PM

22. It makes more sense now

If he was the second choice, then it meant that the Rs were able to beat back O's first choice. And it was the media who pushed Rice's name, not O. So the reveal does seem strategic after the fact.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:00 PM

26. That's what Presidents do - plan....


A good President like the head of a family plans ahead. Once it started to look like Rice might be force to pull out, the President had to make moves and ensure the whole process did not go up in smoke or destabilise the cabinet. End of story.

http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/conservatives-launch-facebook-alternative.html

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:35 PM

27. Apologies Mr. Secretary

for the swipes. Hopefully it will be more known that he defended Rice from "The Club."

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:50 PM

28. Rice was not the right person for the job to begin with.

I always assumed it would be Kerry until suddenly the MSM declared Rice the front runner. Kerry has a lot more experience and a less hawkish view of the world.

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