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Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:45 AM

Aide to Egyptian President Morsi Says Holocaust Was a Hoax by the U.S.

Source: Cleveland Leader

An important figure in Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi's administration has called the Holocaust a hoax put together U.S. intelligence operatives, and claims that the 6 million Jews who were killed by Nazis simply moved to the United States.

These outlandish claims were made by Fathi Shihab-Eddim, a senior figure close to Morsi who is charged with appointing the editors of all state-run Egyptian newspapers. He made these remarks as the world marked Holocaust Remembrance Day on January 27, and as the U.S. continues to figure out its relationship with the increasingly radical nation.

Shihab-Eddim said:

“The myth of the Holocaust is an industry that America invented. U.S. intelligence agencies in cooperation with their counterparts in allied nations during World War II created it to destroy the image of their opponents in Germany, and to justify war and massive destruction against military and civilian facilities of the Axis powers, and especially to hit Hiroshima and Nagasaki with the atomic bomb.”

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Reply Aide to Egyptian President Morsi Says Holocaust Was a Hoax by the U.S. (Original post)
hack89 Jan 2013 OP
WhoWoodaKnew Jan 2013 #1
Robb Jan 2013 #2
Archae Jan 2013 #3
nick of time Jan 2013 #4
Agnosticsherbet Jan 2013 #5
TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #6
Mike Daniels Jan 2013 #23
Ian Iam Jan 2013 #7
Odin2005 Jan 2013 #10
Ian Iam Jan 2013 #13
Odin2005 Jan 2013 #8
Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #17
obama2terms Jan 2013 #26
Glorfindel Jan 2013 #9
hack89 Jan 2013 #11
jsr Jan 2013 #14
DetlefK Jan 2013 #12
Journeyman Jan 2013 #15
iandhr Jan 2013 #16
RoseMead Jan 2013 #18
crim son Jan 2013 #19
Fumesucker Jan 2013 #36
muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #20
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #21
Diclotican Jan 2013 #22
JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #24
Socal31 Jan 2013 #25
MrSlayer Jan 2013 #27
sakabatou Jan 2013 #28
zellie Jan 2013 #29
pipoman Jan 2013 #30
Yo_Mama Jan 2013 #31
David__77 Jan 2013 #32
fujiyama Jan 2013 #33
rollin74 Jan 2013 #34
mpcamb Jan 2013 #35

Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:47 AM

1. I heard we had a hand in the fall or Rome too.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:48 AM

2. Well, good to see things going so smoothly.

Oy.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:50 AM

3. Why am I not surprised?

I see the same thing going on now in Egypt that happened in Iran.

"Hurrah! The dictator is gone, now we have a new dictator!"

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:50 AM

4. What a vile piece of dung this man is.

 

Makes me wonder what Morsi believes also.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:51 AM

5. Egypt is now grossly overdue for another revolution...

They should keep changing governments until they get one that can do it right. One good start would be not to keep strict control of the Press by "appointing the editors of all state-run Egyptian newspapers" in order to control what people think.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:54 AM

6. What a swell gang! Revolution--not always a good thing.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:58 PM

23. About par for the course on most revolutions.

Usually, you end up with someone just as bad if not worse than the previous leader.

The American Revolution may not be the sole exception to that scenario but it's part of a pretty small club.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:57 AM

7. Twit!

 

And his like can be found in all countries. Ever heard of the BNP?

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Response to Ian Iam (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:08 PM

10. Holocaust denial is mainstream in the Middle East, unlike in the UK.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:13 PM

13. Absolutely correct

 

Sadly, however, anti-Semitism itself, while certainly not mainstream, is not at all rare.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:07 PM

8. I'm starting to think that the Arab Spring was a mistake.

It just brought religious nuts to power.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:38 PM

17. Cairo ain't Cuyahoga Falls.

The Arab spring has many currents, and the political processes it unleashed are by now means over.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:45 PM

26. It may seem that way

But no revolution that any country has had ( even our own) has gone perfectly, it takes a while for things to change.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:08 PM

9. I wonder how long it will be until they decide that ancient Egyptian artwork needs to be destroyed?

Probably not all that long....

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Response to Glorfindel (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:10 PM

11. "Extremist calls for destruction of Egyptian antiquities"

Morgan Al-Gohary, a jihadi sheikh with a history of radicalism, appeared on the private Egyptian TV channel Dream TV 2 Saturday evening and declared that if he and his ilk ever came to power, they would not hesitate to destroy the Sphinx and the pyramids.

He's no stranger to the notion of vandalizing ancient artifacts, boasting to the show's host, Wael Al-Abrashi, that while in Afghanistan, he took part along with the Taliban in the demolition of the Bamyan Buddhas in March 2001.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/12/world/wedeman-ancient-monuments/index.html

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Response to hack89 (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:15 PM

14. Best comment ever:

The guy wants to destroy an ancient monument, yet burn the quaran and he'll throw a tantrum

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:11 PM

12. The Germans didn't treat Jews like shit for years before WWII.

Nope.
The discrimination, the mobbing, the murders, documented in countless german photos, reports, articles, letters, documents and public speeches...
Never happened.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:15 PM

15. Must have created it on the same soundstage where we did the Moon landing and Watergate . . .

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:32 PM

16. Wow

I am utterly speechless.

This is despicable. I have read disgusting anti-semetic **** in my time but this takes the cake.


Pretty soon the Egyptian government will say "it was taken out of context."


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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:44 PM

18. I guess he's never heard of the voyage of the St. Louis.

The US wouldn't even allow a boatload of Jews to land here, let alone 6 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:13 PM

19. My German ex inlaws will disagree.

This man should have a job more suited to his intellect, say, garbage collector.

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Response to crim son (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:53 PM

36. Garbage collectors serve a vital function in society

Please don't sully the noble profession of sanitary engineering by associating it with this moronic twit.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:22 PM

20. Your link goes to their front page, and will become out of date

Here's a link that will stay working: http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/19975

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:28 PM

21. And we're sending these guys weapons, oh joy.

A democracy is only as good as the education of its citizenry,

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:17 PM

22. hack89

hack89

Main Kampf is the most read book in Egypt after the Koran - so this is not excactly suprising to be honest...

Diclotican

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:15 PM

24. I'm so happy we send him money and weapons.

I'll be overjoyed when he decides the Sphinx and the pyramids are offensive to Islam and blows them to smithereens.

Arab spring indeed.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:42 PM

25. And these are people we are arming?

Just as bad as Libya and Syria. Complete debacle.

I can't believe we got the Russians to fake their discovery of the death camps in Poland and elsewhere. Just to throw everyone off the case, we then had a faux-"Cold War" that almost ended all human earth on life, as recently as the 90s!

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:03 PM

27. It was a mistake not to back old Hosni.

 

Just as it was a mistake to take out Saddam in Iraq and Kadaffi in Lybia. None of this is for the better.

All three were bad guys but these radical Islamists are far worse. Far worse.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:14 PM

28. I'm not surprised

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:17 PM

29. The Arab Spring has been a disaster .

 

All it has done has unleashed the dark side.

Morsi is holocaust denying antisemitic pig.

Hosni was no great guy but he was better than this sob.

Think this was bad.... Wait for Syria to fall. It will make Egypt look like a rave.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:49 PM

30. Of coarse he does..so predictable..

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:04 PM

31. Those whom the gods wish to destroy ...

they first make mad.

Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:17 PM

32. This is hardly out of sync in Egypt.

Even pro-Mubarak forces uttered things like this. Anti-Semitic ideology is very strong there among all of the Muslim political currents.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 10:58 PM

33. We need to start disengaging with these leaders

We're tied into what seems like every peculiar event that occurs in that region.

Morsi and the Brotherhood are theocratic ass hats (and anti-Semitic ass hats to boot). This aide is likely expressing Morsi's own beliefs, which sadly probably aren't that far off from what Ahmedinijad believes. The crazy thing is the Salafists are even crazier, if that's at all possible. We need to tell Egypt (and Israel for that matter) that as long as we're in a fiscal crisis our old policy of sending billions in military aid is over. The Egyptian people have to decide for themselves what sort of government they want, and if they want a theocracy that impedes the rights of women and minorities, we need to tell them to fuck off. I'm sick of money going to these countries using MINE and YOUR tax dollars. I don't bust my ass off 50 hours a week to send a chunk to Morsi and Netanyahu. Fuck them.

Instead the President announces $150 million in aid to Syria, money which will be undoubtedly funneled to corrupt warlords, Jihadists, or into the pocket of Assad himself. It won't reach any starving person and in the end they'll still hate the US.

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Response to hack89 (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:27 PM

34. what a liar and a scumbag

Egypt is controlled by a conservative fundamentalist crackpot

the U.S. needs to rethink giving more than 1 billion dollars a year in aid to that country

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Response to rollin74 (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 11:45 PM

35. "Egypt is controlled by a conservative fundamentalist crackpot"

Agreed.
"the U.S. needs to rethink giving more than 1 billion dollars a year in aid to that country"
Agreed.

Also agree that Holocaust denial is common in the Mideast , as someone said above.
But I don't think this guy necessarily believes in it. It's a workable inflammatory phrase to play to the fundamentalist crowd.
Punish the bastard for it. Yank his funding.

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